***** Official 2022 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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If Mack were losing money on these bets he wouldn't be doing them over and over and over.
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Bingo, they use to maybe be once a year. Lately it's every major event and he already has one started for the Astros to win it all
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This time you get DOUBLE your $$ back if Astros win it all.
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Much needed off day today. Things are looking pretty good heading into June.

33-18 and sitting in first place in the division. 5.5 half games ahead of the Angels.

3.5 games back of the Yankees for best record in the AL. They're good, but I do think they've overachieved a bit. I think we catch them.

Pitching has been fantastic but I do think we should expect a slight regression to the mean. The good news is that the lineup as a whole has been underperforming and I think we see the same thing and it should balance out.

I would love another bat and a lefty arm for the bullpen. In a perfect world, Yuli starts to heat up and that will feel like a midseason acquisition in itself. We need Bregman to get it going as well.

All things considered, we look pretty darn good.
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bearkatag15 said:



Imagine being the dodger fan having to convince himself they didn't get fleeced in the Yordan/Fields trade
Wait, there are actually Dodger fans delusional enough to think that one of the most dangerous hitters in baseball at 24 is the short-end of a trade vs. a guy who is completely out of baseball and barely ever a contributor?
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The Dodger fan may or may not think that, but neither his tweet nor the post you quoted say that at all.
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Gramercy Riffs said:

The Dodger fan may or may not think that, but neither his tweet nor the post you quoted say that at all.


The tweet clearly implied Yordan wasn't worth what we gave up to get him.
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If we were able to get, say, Trey Mancini at the deadline... how would we work him into the lineup? Maybe Tucker would get more starts in CF? He could obviously play first as well if Yuli never gets it going. He's a lefty so it would mess up the R/L/R/L in the lineup... but he does hit lefties and righties the same (.273 and .275 for his career respectively).
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texasaggie2015 said:

If we were able to get, say, Trey Mancini at the deadline... how would we work him into the lineup? Maybe Tucker would get more starts in CF? He could obviously play first as well if Yuli never gets it going. He's a lefty so it would mess up the R/L/R/L in the lineup... but he does hit lefties and righties the same (.273 and .275 for his career respectively).
Cedric Mullins in CF would be nice....
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texasaggie2015 said:

If we were able to get, say, Trey Mancini at the deadline... how would we work him into the lineup? Maybe Tucker would get more starts in CF? He could obviously play first as well if Yuli never gets it going. He's a lefty so it would mess up the R/L/R/L in the lineup... but he does hit lefties and righties the same (.273 and .275 for his career respectively).
How should it be done or how would Dusty do it?


Here is what I would guess.
1. Tuve
2. Brantley
3. Bregman
4. Alvarez
5. Pena
6. Tucker
7. Chas
8. Mancini
9. Maldy

Really, I think we should set the lineup based on the opposing pitcher.
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I'm going on record today 6/2/22 Unless we have an injury we aren't picking up a major bat at the deadline....and i highly doubt we pick up an arm either.

The only exception is if Yuli falls off a cliff compared to current production which is already low...like he is hitting Machete style...even then I believe we attempt to fill from within.

I do think we might see some bench help possibly via trading Chas/Siri, maybe package with a few low end 40 man roster arms because we are fast approaching a need for multiple spots on a 40 man roster which is full.
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Wabs said:

texasaggie2015 said:

If we were able to get, say, Trey Mancini at the deadline... how would we work him into the lineup? Maybe Tucker would get more starts in CF? He could obviously play first as well if Yuli never gets it going. He's a lefty so it would mess up the R/L/R/L in the lineup... but he does hit lefties and righties the same (.273 and .275 for his career respectively).
Cedric Mullins in CF would be nice....
I like Mullins but he's under contract through 2026... he would most likely cost one of the prospects we don't want to give up
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

I'm going on record today 6/2/22 Unless we have an injury we aren't picking up a major bat at the deadline....and i highly doubt we pick up an arm either.

The only exception is if Yuli falls off a cliff compared to current production which is already low...like he is hitting Machete style...even then I believe we attempt to fill from within.

I do think we might see some bench help possibly via trading Chas/Siri, maybe package with a few low end 40 man roster arms because we are fast approaching a need for multiple spots on a 40 man roster which is full.
Outside of 2020, we've been active at the deadline under Jeff and Click.

Last year we got Graveman, Yimi, Montero, Maton.
2019 we got Greinke
2018 we got Pressly & Osuna
2017 we got JV (second deadline)

We were also very close to getting Britton, Harper, and who knows who else.
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yep, Glick will make a move or 2.
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Farmer1906 said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

I'm going on record today 6/2/22 Unless we have an injury we aren't picking up a major bat at the deadline....and i highly doubt we pick up an arm either.

The only exception is if Yuli falls off a cliff compared to current production which is already low...like he is hitting Machete style...even then I believe we attempt to fill from within.

I do think we might see some bench help possibly via trading Chas/Siri, maybe package with a few low end 40 man roster arms because we are fast approaching a need for multiple spots on a 40 man roster which is full.
Outside of 2020, we've been active at the deadline under Jeff and Click.

Last year we got Graveman, Yimi, Montero, Maton.
2019 we got Greinke
2018 we got Pressly & Osuna
2017 we got JV (second deadline)

We were also very close to getting Britton, Harper, and who knows who else.
21: Still have Montero and Maton. and our pen has been solid this year.
19: we got a SP, we currently have 5, 2 more coming back soon and a stud in AAA
18: Pressley is still there, still deals and isnt getting replaced
17: Still here, see explanation of 19

We have 3 CF, we arent getting a 4th
Bregman isnt going anywhere whether he "improves" or not...he is still an above average 3B
Yuli isnt getting replaced this season


So who are we replacing via trade?
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Farmer1906 said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

I'm going on record today 6/2/22 Unless we have an injury we aren't picking up a major bat at the deadline....and i highly doubt we pick up an arm either.

The only exception is if Yuli falls off a cliff compared to current production which is already low...like he is hitting Machete style...even then I believe we attempt to fill from within.

I do think we might see some bench help possibly via trading Chas/Siri, maybe package with a few low end 40 man roster arms because we are fast approaching a need for multiple spots on a 40 man roster which is full.
Outside of 2020, we've been active at the deadline under Jeff and Click.

Last year we got Graveman, Yimi, Montero, Maton.
2019 we got Greinke
2018 we got Pressly & Osuna
2017 we got JV (second deadline)

We were also very close to getting Britton, Harper, and who knows who else.
21: Still have Montero and Maton. and our pen has been solid this year.
19: we got a SP, we currently have 5, 2 more coming back soon and a stud in AAA
18: Pressley is still there, still deals and isnt getting replaced
17: Still here, see explanation of 19

We have 3 CF, we arent getting a 4th
Bregman isnt going anywhere whether he "improves" or not...he is still an above average 3B
Yuli isnt getting replaced this season


So who are we replacing via trade?
Yuli could very well get replaced.

We have opportunities to get better at C, 1B, and LHP. I think we're pretty solid everywhere else unless there is a major injury.
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Farmer1906 said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

I'm going on record today 6/2/22 Unless we have an injury we aren't picking up a major bat at the deadline....and i highly doubt we pick up an arm either.

The only exception is if Yuli falls off a cliff compared to current production which is already low...like he is hitting Machete style...even then I believe we attempt to fill from within.

I do think we might see some bench help possibly via trading Chas/Siri, maybe package with a few low end 40 man roster arms because we are fast approaching a need for multiple spots on a 40 man roster which is full.
Outside of 2020, we've been active at the deadline under Jeff and Click.

Last year we got Graveman, Yimi, Montero, Maton.
2019 we got Greinke
2018 we got Pressly & Osuna
2017 we got JV (second deadline)

We were also very close to getting Britton, Harper, and who knows who else.
21: Still have Montero and Maton. and our pen has been solid this year.
19: we got a SP, we currently have 5, 2 more coming back soon and a stud in AAA
18: Pressley is still there, still deals and isnt getting replaced
17: Still here, see explanation of 19

We have 3 CF, we arent getting a 4th
Bregman isnt going anywhere whether he "improves" or not...he is still an above average 3B
Yuli isnt getting replaced this season


So who are we replacing via trade?
I could easily see them replacing Yuli with a rental 1B or utility guy. I happen to think that Yuli will find his groove so it's a moot point, but if he doesn't they're not going to pass up a chance at a big upgrade if we maintain our current pace as a top team in the league.
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We have opportunities to get better at C, 1B, and LHP
Yep. And we all know how important depth is over the course of a 162 game season. That's why I wouldn't rule out Mancini. He can play corner outfield and 1B and has a great bat. He would play nearly every day with how often Dusty rests guys.
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texasaggie2015 said:

Wabs said:

texasaggie2015 said:

If we were able to get, say, Trey Mancini at the deadline... how would we work him into the lineup? Maybe Tucker would get more starts in CF? He could obviously play first as well if Yuli never gets it going. He's a lefty so it would mess up the R/L/R/L in the lineup... but he does hit lefties and righties the same (.273 and .275 for his career respectively).
Cedric Mullins in CF would be nice....
I like Mullins but he's under contract through 2026... he would most likely cost one of the prospects we don't want to give up


For a young proven all star CF I'd be willing to give up Leon.

You're essentially getting an all star for 4.5 seasons, or a potential all star for 6 seasons with that.
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tjack16 said:

texasaggie2015 said:

Wabs said:

texasaggie2015 said:

If we were able to get, say, Trey Mancini at the deadline... how would we work him into the lineup? Maybe Tucker would get more starts in CF? He could obviously play first as well if Yuli never gets it going. He's a lefty so it would mess up the R/L/R/L in the lineup... but he does hit lefties and righties the same (.273 and .275 for his career respectively).
Cedric Mullins in CF would be nice....
I like Mullins but he's under contract through 2026... he would most likely cost one of the prospects we don't want to give up


For a young proven all star CF I'd be willing to give up Leon.

You're essentially getting an all star for 4.5 seasons, or a potential all star for 6 seasons with that.
3.5*

You'd be missing all the cheap years and start paying for Arb years.

But your point still stands.
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Oh never mind then. If he's only under contract through 2025 then I'd say probably no to that deal.

If they'll take Siri/Chas, Abreu, and Santos then I'd go for it
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I'm also not exactly sold on Mullins long term yet. He's played one full season, and it was a hell of a season, but still not the biggest sample size. I'm sure being in a lineup with a bunch of big bats like ours would only help.
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Here are our top 12 prospects

1-4 I'd consider untouchable unless you're talking about a shocking trade for a perennial all star.

I'd be willing to part with any of the other 8 if it means getting a guy like Mullins, Mancini, or another all star type of player
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Mathguy64 said:

Looking at KC, Salvador Perez has fallen off a cliff. Batting .187 with an OPS of .580. He's gone from 48 HR last year to 6 this year.
my fantasy league catcher. It's killing my team (among other low performers).I think the issue is he is like 57 years old.
What do you boys want for breakfast BBQ ?.....OK Chili.
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Off days….

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tjack16 said:

Here are our top 12 prospects

1-4 I'd consider untouchable unless you're talking about a shocking trade for a perennial all star.

I'd be willing to part with any of the other 8 if it means getting a guy like Mullins, Mancini, or another all star type of player

I certainly wouldn't trade Lee or Leon, but outside of the HRs each are hitting, they are struggling with avg - both around .215 with tons of strikeouts. I think both will need a year or 2 at AAA before they are ready.
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sorry to disappoint but I would put money on them both being up in September
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"There's no impending necessity for a guy like Hunter," Space Cowboys manager Mickey Storey said this week. "Maybe there is because I feel he could be as dominant as a number of major league pitchers. His time will come, surely, but he's in a place right now where he seems like he's playing in a league that's below his ability."

Few could blame Storey for such a proclamation. Brown brought a 2.01 ERA into Wednesday's start against the Albuquerque Isotopes. The Astros named him their minor league pitcher of the month after Brown posted a 1.21 ERA in five May appearances. He struck out 30 batters and compiled a 0.94 WHIP across the 22 1/3 frames he threw.

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iamtheglove said:

tjack16 said:

Here are our top 12 prospects

1-4 I'd consider untouchable unless you're talking about a shocking trade for a perennial all star.

I'd be willing to part with any of the other 8 if it means getting a guy like Mullins, Mancini, or another all star type of player

I certainly wouldn't trade Lee or Leon, but outside of the HRs each are hitting, they are struggling with avg - both around .215 with tons of strikeouts. I think both will need a year or 2 at AAA before they are ready.
Leon actually walks, can steal bases, and hits for a little more power. I wouldn't say anyone with a .826 OPS is struggling.

Both will be given every opportunity at the big league level next year. We have to replace Brantley, Mandy, and Castro.
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"There's no impending necessity for a guy like Hunter," Space Cowboys manager Mickey Storey said this week. "Maybe there is because I feel he could be as dominant as a number of major league pitchers. His time will come, surely, but he's in a place right now where he seems like he's playing in a league that's below his ability."

Few could blame Storey for such a proclamation. Brown brought a 2.01 ERA into Wednesday's start against the Albuquerque Isotopes. The Astros named him their minor league pitcher of the month after Brown posted a 1.21 ERA in five May appearances. He struck out 30 batters and compiled a 0.94 WHIP across the 22 1/3 frames he threw.


Click working on his vocab. I would rather have Brown up as a starter. If he can prove it on the big league level for a handful of starts then I might trust him to win us a playoff game after JV, LMJ, & Framber. Maybe LuACE too. Damn this is a good problem to have.
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Hopefully we see Hunter in the next couple weeks. Time to give Urquidy or Garcia a little rest and no need to rush LMJ or Odo back.
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Farmer1906 said:

iamtheglove said:

tjack16 said:

Here are our top 12 prospects

1-4 I'd consider untouchable unless you're talking about a shocking trade for a perennial all star.

I'd be willing to part with any of the other 8 if it means getting a guy like Mullins, Mancini, or another all star type of player

I certainly wouldn't trade Lee or Leon, but outside of the HRs each are hitting, they are struggling with avg - both around .215 with tons of strikeouts. I think both will need a year or 2 at AAA before they are ready.
Leon actually walks, can steal bases, and hits for a little more power. I wouldn't say anyone with a .826 OPS is struggling.

Both will be given every opportunity at the big league level next year. We have to replace Brantley, Mandy, and Castro.
I don't disagree fundamentally regarding Leon, but that's why I said struggling with average (and strikeouts). Also agree that next year would be where I would assume they get a chance, especially if there is improvement shown.
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

sorry to disappoint but I would put money on them both being up in September
You're probably right, and it wouldn't disappoint to see them up in Sept. I just think they need more time in the minors to get some issues addressed. But both have the raw tools for certain, which should be good for us long term.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


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"There's no impending necessity for a guy like Hunter," Space Cowboys manager Mickey Storey said this week. "Maybe there is because I feel he could be as dominant as a number of major league pitchers. His time will come, surely, but he's in a place right now where he seems like he's playing in a league that's below his ability."

Few could blame Storey for such a proclamation. Brown brought a 2.01 ERA into Wednesday's start against the Albuquerque Isotopes. The Astros named him their minor league pitcher of the month after Brown posted a 1.21 ERA in five May appearances. He struck out 30 batters and compiled a 0.94 WHIP across the 22 1/3 frames he threw.




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