***Official Houston Astros 2021-22 Offseason Thread***

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Yuli just hit a bomb.
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Piña power to left field! 4-0
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Farmer1906 said:

Pedro Leon Dinger.




It would be nice if Leon could take over CF this year.
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Yuli is so entertaining to watch spin on a ball
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agproducer said:

Farmer1906 said:

Pedro Leon Dinger.




It would be nice if Leon could take over CF this year.
Maybe, but let's not sleep on Chas, new Jake, and Siri. All 3 showed some serious flashes last year. Leon didn't exactly set the world on fire in the minors. Which shouldn't be a surprise since he was out of baseball for around 2 years.
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Unfortunately Chas, Jake and Siri are all just platoon guys at their ceiling. Leon MIGHT be an average to above everyday player. Give him every chance.
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Farmer1906 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

agproducer said:

Farmer1906 said:

Pedro Leon Dinger.




It would be nice if Leon could take over CF this year.
Maybe, but let's not sleep on Chas, new Jake, and Siri. All 3 showed some serious flashes last year. Leon didn't exactly set the world on fire in the minors. Which shouldn't be a surprise since he was out of baseball for around 2 years.


Absolutely. I'm not sleeping on any of them, but I'm not sold on any of them being a long term solution in center. Leon is young and the time off hurt his development. I'm excited to see if he can put it all together.
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TREX01 said:

Unfortunately Chas, Jake and Siri are all just platoon guys at their ceiling. Leon MIGHT be an average to above everyday player. Give him every chance.
Well all 3 were above average offensively and defensively last year. Maybe it was all just dumb luck and a small sample size or maybe they've already passed your ceiling for them.
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I would bet JV's endorsement actually matters to Dusty.
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I know ZG isn't here any longer, but this is hilarious:

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https://www.mlb.com/astros/news/james-click-on-astros-future-carlos-correa
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Farmer1906 said:

https://www.mlb.com/astros/news/james-click-on-astros-future-carlos-correa

The article should be titled "how to say nothing using as many words as possible"
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Farmer1906 said:

https://www.mlb.com/astros/news/james-click-on-astros-future-carlos-correa

The article should be titled "how to say nothing using as many words as possible"
Posted it before I read it. And agree 1000000%. Click basically gave nonanswers to everything.
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Been out and about running errands all afternoon and now waiting to pick my son from school and it's been enjoyable hearing Robert Ford and Steve Sparks on the radio again!
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Farmer1906 said:

TREX01 said:

Unfortunately Chas, Jake and Siri are all just platoon guys at their ceiling. Leon MIGHT be an average to above everyday player. Give him every chance.
Well all 3 were above average offensively and defensively last year. Maybe it was all just dumb luck and a small sample size or maybe they've already passed your ceiling for them.
Those guys collectively struck out 32% of the time last year. If you throw them all together they had about a season worth of plate appearances and would have been one of the worst strikeout totals in the league. This was all in a small sample size for each one. Time will tell but we cant have a 3 man platoon in CF.
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Baby Astros plus Diaz putting it on the Cards in their last AB.
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TREX01 said:

Farmer1906 said:

TREX01 said:

Unfortunately Chas, Jake and Siri are all just platoon guys at their ceiling. Leon MIGHT be an average to above everyday player. Give him every chance.
Well all 3 were above average offensively and defensively last year. Maybe it was all just dumb luck and a small sample size or maybe they've already passed your ceiling for them.
Those guys collectively struck out 32% of the time last year. If you throw them all together they had about a season worth of plate appearances and would have been one of the worst strikeout totals in the league. This was all in a small sample size for each one. Time will tell but we cant have a 3 man platoon in CF.
I agree, the strike outs were bad. I voiced that issue several times last year.

But, as you said, the guys collectively played about a year's worth per PAs.

Would you take this CFer?
.263 AVG
.323 OBP
.460 SLG
.783 OPS
3.3 WAR
32.1 K%
16 OOA

Its very similar to this outfielder who just got 4/60,000,000 - Chris Taylor
.254 AVG
.344OBP
.438 SLG
.782 OPS
3.1 WAR
28.7 K%
-3 OOA

And this one too who just got 3/36,000,000 - Jorge Soler
.223 AVG
.316 OBP
.432 SLG
.749 OPS
-0.2 WAR (terrible defender and not a CFer)
23.6 K%
-7 OOA

I remember this rookie in our system a handful of years back. He turned out okay. - George Springer
.231 AVG
.336 OBP
.468 SLG
.804 OPS
1.9 WAR (Only 345 PA)
33.0 K%

I don't want to alarm you, but Pedro Leon had a K% north of 30 in the minors last year.
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Farmer you provide some of the best and most in depth reply burns on this thread.

Bravo Sir Bravo
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Thanks, I think, but I am not trying to burn anyone. I just like talking ball and try to make my case when I disagree with someone.
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Plus, George figured out how to cut down the strikeouts. Not like it's impossible to do.
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Exactly.

Someone like Siri worries me because he's struck out big at every level.

New Jake was sub 20% in AAA last year and right at 20% in AA in 2019.

Similarly, ChazzyFiz was 15.1% in AAA & 12.6% in AA in 2019.
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Agree, not a burn per-say just not sure what terms fits better...but your responses are so well organized and fact based. Its fabulous
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FYI, tomorrow's game is on TV, Blum and Kalas are doing the broadcast.
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Thank you Houston.

Thank you to the Astros organization for the great moments in the past 10 years.

Thank you to the fans for embracing me as one of your own. From a 17 year old boy to a 27 year old father you've seen me grow, and you've shown me your love and support

Thank you to my former teammates for making me the player and person I am today. We will always be family.

Now it's time to say goodbye but the memories will live on forever

Love you H-Town

Minnesota let's get to work. My family and I are excited for this new chapter. Looking forward to seeing you all at Target Field
https://instagr.am/p/Cbdne2Uurvs
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And brooks raleys burner account , will miss the banter about raley and his stats
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. . . said:

Quote:

Thank you Houston.

Thank you to the Astros organization for the great moments in the past 10 years.

Thank you to the fans for embracing me as one of your own. From a 17 year old boy to a 27 year old father you've seen me grow, and you've shown me your love and support

Thank you to my former teammates for making me the player and person I am today. We will always be family.

Now it's time to say goodbye but the memories will live on forever

Love you H-Town

Minnesota let's get to work. My family and I are excited for this new chapter. Looking forward to seeing you all at Target Field
https://instagr.am/p/Cbdne2Uurvs


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Ags #1 said:

And brooks raleys burner account , will miss the banter about raley and his stats
Still not that bad. He'll kill it in Tampa.
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Probably so but we all cant have our meltdowns over him coming in a high leverage situation
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