***Official Houston Astros 2021-22 Offseason Thread***

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https://es.pn/3Kw02eo

Robot umps headed to triple A
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Outfield jump: 69
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I wrote a story on this,
https://climbingtalshill.com/2022/01/20/astros-kyle-tucker-hospice-care/
give it a read if you'd like.
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Lance doing Ace **** again.



Teddy Perkins
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Who is narrating that?! "Ferkin nailed it, go on McCullers, go on." Sounds like someone's granpappy and has me rolling.
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That's my Ace!
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bearkatag15 said:




Correa staying with the Astros system next season confirmed
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Just because it came across my feed and, quite frankly, I don't think a reason is needed to rewatch this

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CZAuTfjqG2i/?utm_medium=copy_link
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Awesomeness ! Love Blummer's troll to boot
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That game was on Astros Playback this afternoon on ATT
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htxag09 said:

Just because it came across my feed and, quite frankly, I don't think a reason is needed to rewatch this

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CZAuTfjqG2i/?utm_medium=copy_link


Such a great game to be at. Complete roller coaster of emotions. I didnt think we would win until Altuve was on deck. I just thought when we scored a few that it was too little too late.
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Progress?

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bearkatag15 said:



Progress?


Maybe from one side...

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The union on Monday also rejected most if not all of what MLB had proposed in the sides' most recent meeting.

With the time-to-free-agency question gone, two of the major hurdles remaining are whether MLB could become amenable to any changes to revenue sharing; and what will happen to the other particularly contentious bucket, the time it takes a player to reach arbitration. The players' decision to drop their request to get players to free agency sooner wasn't particularly surprising, considering what the union has been talking about for years, publicly, is the plight of younger players.

The union's proposal to get players to arbitration after two years from November went unchanged on Monday. At the time, the league said it had no interest in discussing it.


The meeting tomorrow is probably just the owners trying to extract more concessions from the players union. I'll believe it when I see it.
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EastCoastAgNc said:



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With the time-to-free-agency question gone, two of the major hurdles remaining are whether MLB could become amenable to any changes to revenue sharing; and what will happen to the other particularly contentious bucket, the time it takes a player to reach arbitration. The players' decision to drop their request to get players to free agency sooner wasn't particularly surprising, considering what the union has been talking about for years, publicly, is the plight of younger players.

The union's proposal to get players to arbitration after two years from November went unchanged on Monday. At the time, the league said it had no interest in discussing it.


The meeting tomorrow is probably just the owners trying to extract more concessions from the players union. I'll believe it when I see it.

how can the union give up on the time-to-free-agency issue?

that's the biggest issue/problem for many young players...especially the ones that went the college route
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Not sure. My best guess is they realize the owners will never give on that, and they needed something to sacrifice to show good will. Seems like most of the economics stuff won't change at all.
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W said:




how can the union give up on the time-to-free-agency issue?

that's the biggest issue/problem for many young players...especially the ones that went the college route
Because they dont really care about younger players?
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reading between the lines...yes.

that's always been the problem with the union.

only care about the superstars
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Let's get nerdy.

Hitting+ Metric (looks great at first glace)

https://rpubs.com/Maxwell_Resnick/852767


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Hitting+ is a metric that measures the true talent level of an MLB hitter through Statcast data, batted ball classification data, spray chart distribution, sprint speed interactions with specific types of batted balls, and plate discipline data. The metric is composed of two underlying metrics, Quality of Contact+ and Plate Discipline+, both of which are created through multiple regression models. The final metric stems from a final regression model that features both QOC+ and Plate Discipline+, as well as data on a player's quantity of contact, also known as Expected Balls in Play%. Overall, the purpose of Hitting+ is to utilize a hitter's underlying peripheral data to encapsulate their true ability at the plate.


The leaderboard kind of validates it.

7. Alvarez
8. Tucker
55. Bregman
63. Brantley
126. Altuve
192. Gurriel
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Correa at 66.

I know... He gone.
Ag_07
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The AL batting champ at 192
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Ag_07 said:

The AL batting champ at 192
premium on power?
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redline248 said:

Ag_07 said:

The AL batting champ at 192
premium on power?
Just above avg in quality on contact. Plus its weighted to the last couple of years. Yuli was awful in 2020.
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Farmer1906 said:



Quote:

Hitting+ is a metric that measures the true talent level of an MLB hitter through Statcast data, batted ball classification data, spray chart distribution, sprint speed interactions with specific types of batted balls, and plate discipline data. The metric is composed of two underlying metrics, Quality of Contact+ and Plate Discipline+, both of which are created through multiple regression models. The final metric stems from a final regression model that features both QOC+ and Plate Discipline+, as well as data on a player's quantity of contact, also known as Expected Balls in Play%. Overall, the purpose of Hitting+ is to utilize a hitter's underlying peripheral data to encapsulate their true ability at the plate.


The leaderboard kind of validates it.

7. Alvarez
8. Tucker
55. Bregman
63. Brantley
126. Altuve
192. Gurriel --- AL batting champ
um, not sure what to say
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Seems Correa's little bro is all in on this catcher move
Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
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any word on a salary floor? Its god awful watching the orioles and pirates play.
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Random question…any season ticket holders have a Billy Joel MMP presale code they aren't going to use and would be willing to share?
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I tend to side with the owners on these deals, but I like the idea of a salary floor, say 50M.
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Ag_07 said:

The AL batting champ at 192
Yuli is a 90mph consistent level swinging mofo

His homers barely clear the fence at this age

Seeing eye grounder champ
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so back to the time-to-free-agency discussion...

if nothing indeed changes in the new CBA...

that means both Tucker and Yordan are Houston Astros thru the 2025 season
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Yeah I hear ya but to me that's talent.

Ability to hit to all fields, ability to hit both balls and strikes, clutch hitting.

It all adds up to a very talented hitter and I don't think this metric captures that.

But again no one metric is perfect. Just saying
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LSCSN said:

any word on a salary floor? Its god awful watching the orioles and pirates play.
i don't think it'll happen, owners proposed it, but only if lux tax threshhold is lowered. also remember players saying they didn't want it either, as they believed it would lead to owners pushing for a hard salary cap
https://ts.la/eric59704
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Ag_07 said:

Yeah I hear ya but to me that's talent.

Ability to hit to all fields, ability to hit both balls and strikes, clutch hitting.

It all adds up to a very talented hitter and I don't think this metric captures that.

But again no one metric is perfect. Just saying
It actually tried to capture that more so than most stats.

I think we're getting caught up in the ranking. The middle is bunched up. Yuli (192) has a score of 102. Correa (66) has a score of 110. There are only 8 points between them and about 130 spots.
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