***Official Houston Astros 2021 Season Thread***

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8:32a, 9/8/21
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We are still playing to win the division and jockey for postseason seeding. Games matter. It was a close game in September and we don't have time to let our worst starter ride it out and try to find his confidence.

He seems to think as a veteran he's earned some amount of leeway above and beyond what the stats say just because "he was feeling good". Unless you're JV, Scherzer or Kershaw that won't be the case.
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8:37a, 9/8/21
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Speaking of JV this is all his fault GDit!!!!

If he was in the dugout being a cheerleader and motivational speaker instead of being off in LA on a paid vacation motorboating Kate's fun bags every night this woulda never happened.
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8:38a, 9/8/21
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The frustration is understandable. I don't think Dusty said anything wrong. Odorizzi needs to toughen up a bit.


But this does look like Dbag Chandler Rome trying to create a story.
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8:42a, 9/8/21
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I don't know who needs to hear this but don't forget your free chick-fil-a sandwich in the app courtesy of the GOAT
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In reply to CFTXAG10 • 8:44a, 9/8/21
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CFTXAG10 said:
I don't know who needs to hear this but don't forget your free chick-fil-a sandwich in the app courtesy of the GOAT


Me. I needed to hear it. A tip of the hat, good sir. May the day smile upon you.
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Harry Dunne
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In reply to Beat40 • 8:47a, 9/8/21
Beat40 said:

So many people acting like they wouldn't be pissed and maybe say something if they were in Odo's situation.
yeah it takes a lot of discipline to answer correctly there and even though he's a veteran and should know better, he's also a competitor and it's not hard to understand why he's upset.

Peoples' judgment is also predicated on performance. JV can MF AJ right off the mound and he's just a "tough competitor", because that's how it comes off when you are a CYA winner. Odo has been pretty ordinary and those words don't play well when you haven't backed it up on the field. If Odo had a 2.57 ERA and a 10-3 record this entire thread would be championing him.

So let's be real, it's not about the comments (which are sincere and understandable) - it's about the performance not meriting the attitude.
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8:48a, 9/8/21
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Hopping into the discussion late. Has anyone brought up that the Rays are notorious for pulling starters after their second time through? I recall last postseason they pulled Snell when he was cruising and it was a big story. Our GM (WHO IS FROM THE RAYS) is likely implementing the same analytics with us.

The issue is that Dusty wasn't made to manage in the era of smoothing things over for the front office before the media (like Hinch, Cash, etc). He's a locker room manager. Not a PR manager.

Dusty won't be back next year. Neither will Odo if he's not on board with the organizational philosophy. We'll flip him for a low level prospect or two.
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In reply to Deluxe • 8:52a, 9/8/21
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Good point

And sure enough Snell was shipped off the SD.
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In reply to Ag_07 • 8:55a, 9/8/21
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Exactly
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In reply to Panama Red • 8:57a, 9/8/21
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I know everyone hates him but Chandler was asking the exact same questions style as Tag and both tasted blood in the water and went for it like any good reporter should. Its not their job to play patty cakes with players its their job to get scoops and write pieces.

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In reply to CFTXAG10 • 8:59a, 9/8/21
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CFTXAG10 said:
I don't know who needs to hear this but don't forget your free chick-fil-a sandwich in the app courtesy of the GOAT


I think this is the 3rd time this year he has gotten us free chick fil a
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In reply to tjack16 • 9:08a, 9/8/21
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tjack16 said:
CFTXAG10 said:
I don't know who needs to hear this but don't forget your free chick-fil-a sandwich in the app courtesy of the GOAT


I think this is the 3rd time this year he has gotten us free chick fil a
A man of the people!

Another PSA - todays 1pm game is live on Youtube - so grab your chicken sandwich and tune in while getting absolutely nothing done at work
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9:24a, 9/8/21
Done with the Odo talk.

Let's get this sweep and have some good vibes going into an easier part of the schedule!
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9:25a, 9/8/21
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Finally heading to the ballpark today for a day game
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In reply to Beat40 • 9:26a, 9/8/21
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Beat40 said:
Done with the Odo talk.

Let's get this sweep and have some good vibes going into an easier part of the schedule!
June 21-23...the last time we had a 3 game sweep. We need another one!
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9:27a, 9/8/21
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Do they open gates early enough to catch BP? We're in the Crawford's and will be downtown early … if not, guess I'll just have to have some brunch beers
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9:35a, 9/8/21
Is Justin Verlander being a bad teammate?

Chode little brother should have kept his mouth shut and this issue would not have gone past stupid twitter comments.
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In reply to Harry Dunne • 9:50a, 9/8/21
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Ben is awesome. Much more likeable than JV. He just has his brother back.
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9:56a, 9/8/21
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My brief thoughts on Odo. I am sure yall pretty much covered it already.

1. You're not that dude. You don't have that kind of role on this team. I know you're pissed. I know this season hasn't gone how you wanted individually, but kindly STFU after a big win. Talk to Dusty tomorrow. Handle business in-house before you go crying to Chandler Rome.

2. I 100% believe Dusty and maybe Click too did not properly communicate with him on how he would be handled.

3. His handling is just fine though. #s don't lie. Odo sucks the 3rd time around. Strommy hasn't fixed that. Even when Odo was at his best in 2019, he saw a major drop-off the 3rd time through.

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9:57a, 9/8/21
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 9:59a, 9/8/21
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And that's how you take the high road and say the right thing vs what you want to say.
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In reply to htxag09 • 10:07a, 9/8/21
htxag09 said:
And that's how you take the high road and say the right thing vs what you want to say.


Or Click is just playing 4D Chess and passive aggressively throwing shade at Dusty with those comments
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In reply to Harry Dunne • 10:10a, 9/8/21
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 10:11a, 9/8/21
Farmer1906 said:
Ben is awesome. Much more likeable than JV. He just has his brother back.
Shockingly, I disagree.

I do think he was trying to have his brother's back but was, as usual, being attention seeking and should be savvy enough to not be baited into an argument with some nobody that could escalate a throwaway comment into actual news.

There is one "awesome" thing about Ben, and that is he dated Alexandra Daddario.

TOFA, go Stros.

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In reply to Harry Dunne • 10:16a, 9/8/21
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No shlt?

Damn...Well done

But overall Ben is a whiny insufferable SJW who likes to make everything a big deal. He loves to poke his nose in everything. He also talks like he has some clout but in reality if he wasn't JVs brother no one would know who he was or give a fck what he says.
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 10:32a, 9/8/21
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Click knows that Odor is still on the books for $8 MM next year
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10:34a, 9/8/21
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10:36a, 9/8/21
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Dear Alex,

Thanks for hitting that 2 run tying bomb in the 9th. Nice to see you getting your groove back. Please accept this day off as our way of saying thank you.

Sincerely,

The Lizard.
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In reply to CFTXAG10 • 10:39a, 9/8/21
CFTXAG10 said:
I don't know who needs to hear this but don't forget your free chick-fil-a sandwich in the app courtesy of the GOAT
How does one go about finding it in the app?
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 10:39a, 9/8/21
Mathguy64 said:
Dear Alex,

Thanks for hitting that 2 run tying bomb in the 9th. Nice to see you getting your groove back. Please accept this day off as our way of saying thank you.

Sincerely,

The Lizard.
Got to rest the hamstring after trotting around the bases.
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 10:42a, 9/8/21
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Honestly I'm surprised he's the only one sitting.

Usually if we have won first 2 of a series he sits everyone and plays the Skeeters lineup.
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10:45a, 9/8/21
I'm actually okay with resting Bregman when he isn't needed. Save him for the Playoffs.
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 10:49a, 9/8/21
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Mathguy64 said:
Dear Alex,

Thanks for hitting that 2 run tying bomb in the 9th. Nice to see you getting your groove back. Please accept this day off as our way of saying thank you.

Sincerely,

The Lizard.
It's like effing clockwork... can you place bets on future lineups?
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10:50a, 9/8/21
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I've been following Colt 45 - Astros baseball since 1962 and seen a lot of players come and go thru the years. Odorizzi'a vent and comments were unprofessional and his frustration should have been handled privately with Baker and Strom, not thru the media. Odorizzi hasn't performed up to expectations - and Click's comments were spot on and appropriate. In the real business world Odo's comments would not be favorable to positive team morale and probably be subjected to termination. His comments were selfish especially after a great team win and we don't need a negative influence in the clubhouse going into the playoffs.
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