***Official Houston Astros 2021 Season Thread***

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In reply to Farmer1906 • 9:57p, 4/2/21
Farmer1906 said:
All those people that claimed Straw was a good OFer or an upgrade over Springer are dead wrong. He's fast and that's it.


I don't think many claimed he was an upgrade over Springer. I do think a lot have said if he got to play everyday he could develop into an above average OFer.
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9:59p, 4/2/21
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Who ever said straw was a better cf than springer?

Literally never read that anywhere.
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In reply to Bregxit • 10:00p, 4/2/21
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Bregxit said:
Farmer1906 said:
All those people that claimed Straw was a good OFer or an upgrade over Springer are dead wrong. He's fast and that's it.


People said that?
YES!

Maybe not so much on here, but podcasts, articles, and... twitter? I questioned my view on him because of it.
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10:02p, 4/2/21
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long AB vs. Moreland
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In reply to Nuke LaLoosh • 10:02p, 4/2/21
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Nuke LaLoosh said:
Who ever said straw was a better cf than springer?

Literally never read that anywhere.
I'll see if I can find it.
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10:02p, 4/2/21
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Foul ball chasers were as bad at the As OF.
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10:03p, 4/2/21
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Good grief. What an at bat.
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In reply to Bregxit • 10:03p, 4/2/21
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Nomo nono


Would be nice if the freaking Rockies would not let those California *******s get one
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10:03p, 4/2/21
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I feel like tucker takes a split second longer than most outfielders to get the ball out
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10:04p, 4/2/21
Our outfielders are taking some awful angles.
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In reply to Harry Dunne • 10:04p, 4/2/21
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Harry Dunne said:
Farmer1906 said:
All those people that claimed Straw was a good OFer or an upgrade over Springer are dead wrong. He's fast and that's it.
Did a lot of people say that?

I think he can eventually be better than Springer, because of his speed. Being fast is a huge part of being a good CF.

Don't think that's the ball to judge him on though. What was the catch probability there?
xBA on that triple was .990.
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In reply to htxag09 • 10:04p, 4/2/21
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htxag09 said:
I feel like tucker takes a split second longer than most outfielders to get the ball out
I jokingly thought to myself, Reddick would have thrown him out
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10:04p, 4/2/21
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I feel like that was a bad effort from Tucker.
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10:05p, 4/2/21
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Javier is missing his spots so badly but somehow getting away with it.
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In reply to Nuke LaLoosh • 10:07p, 4/2/21
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I feel like that was a bad effort from Tucker.

It's pretty standard for him. It's almost like he catches it flat footed then realizes he needs to make a throw. When every other outfielder catches and loads up for the throw in one motion
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10:07p, 4/2/21
Here comes the hook. Good call I think.
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In reply to Nuke LaLoosh • 10:07p, 4/2/21
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Nuke LaLoosh said:
I feel like that was a bad effort from Tucker.
Of course, you do.
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10:09p, 4/2/21
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Hmmm not sure I wouldn't want Javier to face Andrea. This is a big ish spot to try and break in Abreu
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In reply to Harry Dunne • 10:09p, 4/2/21
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Harry Dunne said:
Farmer1906 said:
All those people that claimed Straw was a good OFer or an upgrade over Springer are dead wrong. He's fast and that's it.
Did a lot of people say that?

I think he can eventually be better than Springer, because of his speed. Being fast is a huge part of being a good CF.

Don't think that's the ball to judge him on though. What was the catch probability there?
xBA on Canha's out to CF in the 1st was .670. So there he made a play that's a hit almost 7 out of 10 times. Speed counts for a lot.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 10:10p, 4/2/21
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Farmer1906 said:
Nuke LaLoosh said:
Who ever said straw was a better cf than springer?

Literally never read that anywhere.
I'll see if I can find it.
The Athletic's Jake Kaplan on Crawford Talks spoke very matter-of-factly that Straw was a defensive upgrade over George.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 10:10p, 4/2/21
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Farmer1906 said:
Nuke LaLoosh said:
I feel like that was a bad effort from Tucker.
Of course, you do.


We gonna do this all season? You did nothing to refute what I said, just tried to belittle it because hey, nuke.

He's our right fielder. Camped under the ball, flat footed, and made a mediocre throw home. If that's just what he is, fine...

But it's not good enough for an MLB right fielder.
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In reply to PSully97 • 10:11p, 4/2/21
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PSully97 said:
Harry Dunne said:
Farmer1906 said:
All those people that claimed Straw was a good OFer or an upgrade over Springer are dead wrong. He's fast and that's it.
Did a lot of people say that?

I think he can eventually be better than Springer, because of his speed. Being fast is a huge part of being a good CF.

Don't think that's the ball to judge him on though. What was the catch probability there?
xBA on Canha's out to CF in the 1st was .670. So there he made a play that's a hit almost 7 out of 10 times. Speed counts for a lot.
xBA does not account for where it's hit. It may not be the best tool to use.

Blummer said that play gets made 60% of the time based on his statcast.
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In reply to Nuke LaLoosh • 10:12p, 4/2/21
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Nuke LaLoosh said:
Farmer1906 said:
Nuke LaLoosh said:
I feel like that was a bad effort from Tucker.
Of course, you do.


We gonna do this all season? You did nothing to refute what I said, just tried to belittle it because hey, nuke.

He's our right fielder. Camped under the ball, flat footed, and made a mediocre throw home. If that's just what he is, fine...

But it's not good enough for an MLB right fielder.
C'mon. Tell me how you really feel.
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10:12p, 4/2/21
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nice work by Abreu
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10:12p, 4/2/21
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Disaster averted there.
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10:13p, 4/2/21
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Fck me we're only 4 innings into this game.
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10:13p, 4/2/21
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they call it Astros-after-dark...for many reasons
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 10:14p, 4/2/21
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Farmer1906 said:
Nuke LaLoosh said:
Farmer1906 said:
Nuke LaLoosh said:
I feel like that was a bad effort from Tucker.
Of course, you do.


We gonna do this all season? You did nothing to refute what I said, just tried to belittle it because hey, nuke.

He's our right fielder. Camped under the ball, flat footed, and made a mediocre throw home. If that's just what he is, fine...

But it's not good enough for an MLB right fielder.
C'mon. Tell me how you really feel.


So just a troll. Got it.
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10:14p, 4/2/21
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That was the first time I've seen Abreu throw this year and wow. I think he has a chance to be elite if he can put it all together.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 10:15p, 4/2/21
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Farmer1906 said:
PSully97 said:
Harry Dunne said:
Farmer1906 said:
All those people that claimed Straw was a good OFer or an upgrade over Springer are dead wrong. He's fast and that's it.
Did a lot of people say that?

I think he can eventually be better than Springer, because of his speed. Being fast is a huge part of being a good CF.

Don't think that's the ball to judge him on though. What was the catch probability there?
xBA on Canha's out to CF in the 1st was .670. So there he made a play that's a hit almost 7 out of 10 times. Speed counts for a lot.
xBA does not account for where it's hit. It may not be the best tool to use.

Blummer said that play gets made 60% of the time based on his statcast.
Fair enough, but it's a play that doesn't get made 40% of the time by major league centerfielders, right?

For as far as we've come with offensive advanced stats, a lot of fans still use the eyeball test for fielding. When a guy looks smooth and/or makes diving catches they equate that with great fielding. Straw is awkward out there but his speed allows him to make some plays that George and others just wouldn't have a chance at.
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In reply to Nuke LaLoosh • 10:16p, 4/2/21
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Nuke LaLoosh said:
Farmer1906 said:
Nuke LaLoosh said:
Farmer1906 said:
Nuke LaLoosh said:
I feel like that was a bad effort from Tucker.
Of course, you do.


We gonna do this all season? You did nothing to refute what I said, just tried to belittle it because hey, nuke.

He's our right fielder. Camped under the ball, flat footed, and made a mediocre throw home. If that's just what he is, fine...

But it's not good enough for an MLB right fielder.
C'mon. Tell me how you really feel.


So just a troll. Got it.
You need to have a drink and relax.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 10:18p, 4/2/21
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Farmer1906 said:
Nuke LaLoosh said:
Farmer1906 said:
Nuke LaLoosh said:
Farmer1906 said:
Nuke LaLoosh said:
I feel like that was a bad effort from Tucker.
Of course, you do.


We gonna do this all season? You did nothing to refute what I said, just tried to belittle it because hey, nuke.

He's our right fielder. Camped under the ball, flat footed, and made a mediocre throw home. If that's just what he is, fine...

But it's not good enough for an MLB right fielder.
C'mon. Tell me how you really feel.


So just a troll. Got it.
You need to have a drink and relax.


I've been drinking since 9am
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PSully97
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 10:19p, 4/2/21
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Wait, were you saying that the Blummer said the triple gets caught 60% of the time or the out in the 1st?
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In reply to Nuke LaLoosh • 10:19p, 4/2/21
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Nuke LaLoosh said:
Farmer1906 said:
Nuke LaLoosh said:
Farmer1906 said:
Nuke LaLoosh said:
Farmer1906 said:
Nuke LaLoosh said:
I feel like that was a bad effort from Tucker.
Of course, you do.


We gonna do this all season? You did nothing to refute what I said, just tried to belittle it because hey, nuke.

He's our right fielder. Camped under the ball, flat footed, and made a mediocre throw home. If that's just what he is, fine...

But it's not good enough for an MLB right fielder.
C'mon. Tell me how you really feel.


So just a troll. Got it.
You need to have a drink and relax.


I've been drinking since 9am
How are you conscious? I wish I could have a drink, but the 2nd covid shot is kicking my ass pretty badly.
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In reply to PSully97 • 10:20p, 4/2/21
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PSully97 said:
Wait, were you saying that the Blummer said the triple gets caught 60% of the time or the out in the 1st?
Nah the play from either where Straw needed to dive. I thought that is what was being referenced.
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