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MLB already came out and said the Astros did not use buzzers or anything else in 2019. What more does he want?

By the way, I'm not being negative toward Robbie, I just am genuinely curious what more the MLB could say.

A.J. Hinch 'not aware' of any Astros buzzers

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"There has been a significant reaction to my answer to the 'buzzer' question," Hinch said. "To be clear, I have never seen any such device used in baseball. I am not aware of any such device existing or being utilized with the Astros, the players, or any other team."

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https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/astros/article/A-J-Hinch-not-aware-of-any-Astros-buzzers-15052326.php

This info get posted here yet, hadn't seen it. Very interesting.


https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/nationals/report-nationals-were-tipped-about-astros-cheating-dodgers-cora

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MLB wants this over and done

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Then they may wanna let their little lackeys over at ESPN in on the memo. There hasn't been a single evening for the last 3 weeks I haven't turned on the TV and seem some ridiculously overwrought and pious statement from some purported victim claiming the Astros had them on the verge of suicide or some such. So since you insist on keeping it in the forefront of the news, why don't we just go balls out and do what SHOULD be done....... which is conduct all the investigations you need to make sure that all guilty parties are rooted out and the game is rid of this evil for good? I mean, since your overriding concern is for all that is good and holy, right Bristol?

Then again, I'm calling out the network that can't keep its lips off the knob of the bastion of morality that IS Eldrick Woods. And that keeps insisting that tu is baaaaaaaaack. So I realize my battle is fully uphill........

AgsMyDude said:

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This info get posted here yet, hadn't seen it. Very interesting.


https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/nationals/report-nationals-were-tipped-about-astros-cheating-dodgers-cora

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So Martinez went to the source to see what they were doing? LoL you just can't make something up that would be this crazy with how open they were about it. If ALL these teams knew, then MLB knew and did nothing. They did nothing because all teams are doing something. It was only investigated due to Fiers and running his mouth.

It's the same reason teams don't call out other teams when pitchers use foreign substances to improve their grip on the ball.

AgsMyDude said:

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This info get posted here yet, hadn't seen it. Very interesting.


https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/nationals/report-nationals-were-tipped-about-astros-cheating-dodgers-cora

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Tony Sipp played on the Nationals after leaving us, of course he informed his teammates of the time

Also, if everyone knew about the Astros, then they should've been creating better signs in 2018/2019, or they deserved to have them stolen

Seems to be the way baseball operates.

The best players using steroids took the fall for everyone using steroids.

The astros are the sacrificial lamb for baseball in sign stealing.

I'm looking forward to the meltdown from purists when pitchers and catchers start wearing an ear piece that relays the pitch from someone on the bench.

How is something like that not already a thing? Or have the catcher and pitcher both wearing smart watch. Develop an app to call pitches.

Yankees and Red Sox tried that (I know thats not really what they did with the watches)

astros4545 said:

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AgsMyDude said:

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This info get posted here yet, hadn't seen it. Very interesting.


https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/nationals/report-nationals-were-tipped-about-astros-cheating-dodgers-cora

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Tony Sipp played on the Nationals after leaving us, of course he informed his teammates of the time

Also, if everyone knew about the Astros, then they should've been creating better signs in 2018/2019, or they deserved to have them stolen

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You read the whole article? Cora was so salty about the Stros making another WS run he called up Dave Martinez to give him all the juicy intel. He couldn't beat us and was cheating himself so figured he'd let the Nationals in on all the detail.

Irish_Man said:

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Seems to be the way baseball operates.

The best players using steroids took the fall for everyone using steroids.

The astros are the sacrificial lamb for baseball in sign stealing.

I'm looking forward to the meltdown from purists when pitchers and catchers start wearing an ear piece that relays the pitch from someone on the bench.

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Pretty much. No one ever talks about Brady Anderson or Luis Gonzalez suddenly hitting 50+ home runs. It always falls to Bonds, Clemons, A-Rod, et al

sorry if it has already been asked but does anyone have a link to watch the upcoming press conference?

eta: found it

I'm sure the audio will be streamed on 790's website

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1LyxBNpZkooxN

I'm on the At Bat app. Just the team logo so far on here.

It won't happen but I wish this was a heel turn presser where we go scorched earth on Manfred and the other cheaters in MLB. I am expecting some sort of somber half-a** apology that will be ripped apart by the sports media who say it wasn't genuine enough, or who cares! you still cheated!

How fast was the bus going that Crane just pushed Hinch in front of?

This is tough to watch.

Crane
-reiteration of what was already said in his prior apology, went above and beyond by firing Luhnow and Hinch
-Can't change the actions of the past but can change the future
-excited about future and moving forward with Baker

Bregman
-sorry about the choices made by my team, organization, and me
-learned from this and hope to regain trust of fans
-team focused on moving forward with 2020 season

Altuve
-had team meeting last night
-Astros org feels bad about what happened in 2017
-feel worse for our fans
-team determined to move forward and bring home a championship in 2020

Baker
-meeting last night, players showed remorse and regret
-asks the baseball world to forgive them for the mistakes they made
-looking forward to a great season in a great baseball town
-want to bring a championship back to Houston
-Glad Crane knew I was the right man to move this team forward

Questions

If reporting is correct and other teams were involved should other teams lose coaches and gm's?
Crane: We are only worried about the Astros, sure MLB will take care of the other teams

Why do you think the players should be absolved?
Crane: it could have been stopped and it wasn't by Hinch and Luhnow based on the report

What to say to Yankees and other teams we beat in 2017?
Crane: We feel like it didn't impact the game, we won the World Series in 2017 and we will leave it at that

Buzzers?
Crane: No evidence whatsoever of buzzers

Clarification, did you say the sign stealing didn't impact the game?
Crane: I didn't say it didn't impact the game, but aren't looking backwards, we won the WS and leave it at that

Was this cheating? how does it reflect this country for winning at any cost?
Crane: We don't endorse the actions that took place, I don't disagree its been tough on MLB and our fans, we broke the rules and you can phrase it any way you want (won't say they cheated)

When did it stop?
Crane: early 2018 and nothing in 2019

Thought on Beltran?
Dusty: disheartening to hear people talk bad about Carlos, fine christian man, Idk if its true or not but we are all capable of wrongdoing at times, hope we can put this behind us and go ahead and play baseball

This is more like a funeral than a press conference

We'll see what else they say, but so far I'm cool with the message from the players. "Sorry, our bad, let's go win another one and, oh by the way, since that's all we're going to say you can politely take that as 'F you' to the haters."

That's what I heard, anyway...

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this is worthless....Astros are gunna get torn apart for this even more.

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Yep - they didn't have to say anything else. Ridiculous.

What a great first question!!!!

Love that first question. Blue star for that reporter.

He asked about 12 other teams doing the same thing and why we are the only ones taking the heat.

First question is about other teams cheating and whether they should be fired. Crane deflects and says he's only worried about Astros.

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What a great first question!!!!

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Yes it was and Crane totally skirted it.

Oh, snap. Crane just gave the finger to the Yankees. Maybe he does have a backbone.