*****Official 2019/2020 Houston Astros offseason thread*****

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Yea it's such a hollow argument on a number of levels.

1) If a team is going to make a cut decision on a player based on one start in MMP against the 2017 Astros lineup, that team is dumb (regardless of whether or not the Astros were cheating).

2) If a team is going to throw a rookie starter against the 2017 Astros at MMP and they don't equip him with an some advanced, difficult to steal signs, they aren't doing their job setting him up for success
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There was actually a pretty good article yesterday on ESPN that basically attempted to chronicle cheating in baseball. The author starts by saying he quickly realized cheating has been so rampant in baseball from the very beginning that it would be impossible to chronicle in a single article. He does go through decade by decade and highlights certain documented cases. This list includes one of the biggest home runs in baseball history and Babe Ruth. Good read.

This is not to excuse the Astros but for the people clutching their pearls about how this is unprecedented, get a grip. My guess is between sign stealing, various PEDs through the years, manipulating the ball with substances and/or implements, pine tar, corked bats, etc., the number of "clean" World Series in the history of baseball is virtually none.
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JCA1 said:

There was actually a pretty good article yesterday on ESPN that basically attempted to chronicle cheating in baseball. The author starts by saying he quickly realized cheating has been so rampant in baseball from the very beginning that it would be impossible to chronicle in a single article. He does go through decade by decade and highlights certain documented cases. This list includes one of the biggest home runs in baseball history and Babe Ruth. Good read.

This is not to excuse the Astros but for the people clutching their pearls about how this is unprecedented, get a grip. My guess is between sign stealing, various PEDs through the years, manipulating the ball with substances and/or implements, pine tar, corked bats, etc., the number of "clean" World Series in the history of baseball is virtually none.

Yep. And again, this was/is just a good team. They tried to get an extra edge with the sign stealing. Whether it helped them at all or if they even needed it, hard to know.
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Mike Fiers.... yikes
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Banging trash cans is definitely better than banging underage girls.
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Will someone in the media please challenge the Dodgers regarding the facts of the series? Do they think the Stros cheated in Game 7 in LA? Is it proven the Astros cheated in the WS at all?
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They didn't need to steal any signs when Yu pitched. He was doing that all on his own.
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For those interested Dicks now has the new Nike jerseys for sale. They look and feel exactly the same.
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Just saw AJ Hinch at the El Tiempo in the Woodlands
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I haven't been yet. Just as good as the other El Tiempos?
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Not in the GM roll until 2015 but was with the giants during their numerous WS runs. Sounds like a good one to keep an eye on.
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maca1028 said:

Not in the GM roll until 2015 but was with the giants during their numerous WS runs. Sounds like a good one to keep an eye on.

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JCA1 said:

Banging trash cans is definitely better than banging underage girls.


Fighting Fiers with fire right there
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I was a little disappointed but it was mostly cuz of their service.

Hinch was with 6 other dudes. I left him alone but plenty of other people were getting selfies.
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I fully expect he's still feeling the love from Houston.
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Mike Fiers supporting underage Asian girls

What a piece of ****
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I miss...baseball. What a clown show.
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Buck Compton
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Terrible if true... too much of that **** in our world. I hope it's not.

But if it's true, how ****ing stupid do you have to be in the digital age. Rule #1 of being a snitch / whistleblower in the age of social media is that you better have your **** locked up tight because your life is about to be an open book.
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Guys
I have a feeling Mike Fiers has a 0.00 ERA this season

And it just became the Year of the Rat yesterday, Fiers celebrating with asian cuisine
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This tweet may not age well
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Love JV



Verlander: "It's been a blast to be a part of this organization. You know, as of right now, they're very technologically and analytically advanced."
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Fiers waited two years after the World Series before snitching on the Astros

If only he used that same time delay in all facets of his life
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So that tweet is likely deleted, but it's fiers with a 16 year old.

How dumb do you have to be to break a cheating scandal while being with underage girls?

Disgusting.
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this guy seems like he's got his priorities in line.

tweet on 1/18 didn't age well from @DavidWohl


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I'd rather be a registered sex offender than a player on the
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Disgusting cheaters and liars.
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