***** Official Houston Astros 2017 Season Thread *****

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Altuve is batting .400 this postseason in the 3 hole.

He should in no way, shape, or form be touched.

George is our leadoff hitter and that's not gonna change.
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I'm not saying you have to make Tuve the 1 but it would not be a dumb move by any means as shown by the numbers.
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It was a fastball
Yes, a fastball with movement that caught the top of the zone. That pitch looked up all the way to Springer.
BMX Bandit
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but, but, but someone posted an article!!!!



no one disputes Altuve would be great at 1. The issue is who takes his place at 3, then who takes that person's spot, etc.

Moving Altuve would be a complete "It worked on playstation!!!" move.
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Yeah it's not like Yuli or Correa or Bregman have got any hits in the post season. Tuve is our only RBI chance guys!!!
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LA -110
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I'm not a hinch fan but so glad some of you aren't filing out the lineup cards. Bench springer and move altuve out of the 3 hole????
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Maybin for Springer?!?!?
Go back to Cincinnati!!!!!

Canyon99
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Time to even it up. Let's go, Astros!

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Most guys are getting good at bats and executing the strategy. Springer is guessing and not seeing the ball at all. When he is, he's swinging out of his shoes like he does in every slump he's ever been in. If he's untouchable in the lead off spot, then somebody, anybody on the coaching staff needs to do more with him than just telling him to keep trying. It's painfully obvious there's no adjustments being made with the hitters. It's a bunch of "we'll figure it out like he always do ."
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has anybody gotten a shipping email for their world series stuff on mlbshop.com? I really hope they don't take forever getting this stuff sent out
diehard03
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move altuve out of the 3 hole

I would think that your 2-3 should be Altuve-Correa, but I'll defer to the more knowledgeable ones here.
Ag_07
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Yeah I hear ya.

As tempting as it is I just don't think you move Altuve. He's not the one you tinker with.

And I'm not defending George's performance. There's no arguing he's OK. He's obviously having some trouble at the plate.
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Ag_07 said:

Yeah I hear ya.

As tempting as it is I just don't think you move Altuve. He's not the one you tinker with.

And I'm not defending George's performance. There's no arguing he's OK. He's obviously having some trouble at the plate.

And I'm fine with that argument. I think it would be worth trying moving him out of 1 at least a game or two, but I'm not saying it's completely stupid to leave him at 1. I just get tired of people saying that only people who are clueless about baseball would suggest moving Springer from the 1 spot.
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I wouldn't hold your breath. I ordered one of the Take October hoodies they had in 2015 and it took several weeks if memory serves.
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The issue is not moving Springer, it's if you do, who do you replace him with? There is no one in the lineup right now, imo, who would fit.

He needs to make adjustments. It's like he's fallen in love with the HR. George is at his best when he is trying to make contact. Maybe he should choke up and take a two-strike approach.
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I don't think it's dumb based on the numbers and his struggles. If it's the regular then yeah I'm beating the drum to move him and see what someone else can do there.

I think it's dumb because of the situation and the timing. We're pot committed and now just isn't the time for widespread lineup changes.

Kinda like how it isn't the time for resting players. Because I guarantee if this were the regular season George would be getting a day off to relax and regroup.
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to add to that, if they want to move Springer in 2018, have at it. Hes always been an unconventional leadoff.

But dropping him down at this point is a recipe for disaster.
Texaggie7nine
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and can you get your own thread to post Kate Upton porn? A lot of us work, and a lot of work filters can pick up urls of images that you view. It's bad enough at the ball park when I'm thumbing through this thread and everyone just thinks I'm looking at porn while at a ballgame, but some people work in the day.
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BMX Bandit said:

to add to that, if they want to move Springer in 2018, have at it. Hes always been an unconventional leadoff.

But dropping him down at this point is a recipe for disaster.
What disaster would that be? That the 1 spot would go hitless?
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BRING IT
gambochaman
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Maybe go something like this?

Bregman
Tuve
Correa
Yuli
Mccan
Gonzales
Reddick
Pitcher
Springer

?



I understand not wanting to move him....but I also see the point that at worst we'd be at status quo getting zero production from our leadoff spot.....Springer needs to quit trying to hit homers and start trying to get the ball in play

a poster a couple of pages ago said it best...Springer has been seduced his homerun flurry the first half of the season and is desperately trying to get one now
Texaggie7nine
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The article I posted argued for starting Tuve back in the regular season mainly because of Springers love of the long ball. He has more HRs, Tuve has more walks. But if AJ wanted more of a long ball hitter in 1, then why not put someone who is at least hitting some of them in the post season?
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Springer would still leadoff every time you turned over the lineup. Other then the first inning, that does nothing for the lineup except piss everyone off.
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cone said:

I agree with Buck

this has been a great year!

we should be happy and excited with all they've accomplished so far. everything else is just gravy at this point!


False. This team and city deserves more than second place.
maca1028
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Defense looked great last night. Keuchel made a couple of mistakes but otherwise pitched really well. Devo had an old school Devo type inning which was good to see.
My biggest concern for this series is Dodger pitching coupled with this offensive slump that we've been in and out of throughout the postseason. I wonder if there is a little bit of pressure on the players and coaching staff to get that first WS game win for the franchise, hopefully that box gets checked tonight.
Either way, my goal for these first two games was to come away with a spit and that can still happen with Verlander on the bump. Let's get it!
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Post the Upton pics with spoiler tags. Everyone wins
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jopatura said:

Springer would still leadoff every time you turned over the lineup. Other then the first inning, that does nothing for the lineup except piss everyone off.
good point...

I dont know man, I'm just as desperate as everyone else to see some production from the leadoff spot
astros4545
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What if this happened

George continues to hit leadoff and makes adjustments to help the team?

Hey, it could happen
Ag_07
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gambochaman said:


good point...

I dont know man, I'm just as desperate as everyone else to see some production from the leadoff spot

Diddo. This is just an example of the onus being on the player.

There's no manager decision to blame and there's really no clear alternate. It's on George to get his ish together and start producing.

It's another reason why I don't agree with moving him. An automatic out is an automatic out whether it's the leadoff or the 9 hole.

Flat out he just needs to start getting on base. Just produce
Schrute
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Role of the leadoff hitter is to get on base, not to hit HRs. Baseball 101.
Dirty Mike and the Boys
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Watching Kershaw brandish the bunt last night pissed me off more than it probably should have. The extra bat via the DH is a pretty big advantage for us that I hadn't considered prior to this series starting. I think we have considerably more offensive depth than the Dodgers, and we'll get to test the weaker part of their starting lineup with the extra bat in games 3 - 6. I still think were set up pretty good to take this series.
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Schrute said:

Role of the leadoff hitter is to get on base, not to hit HRs. Baseball 101.
I don't really blame George. The whole idea of a "Springer Dinger" is enticing and he just wants to continue that
Canyon99
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FYI - There is going to be a Kate pic on the day of a Verlander start.
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