Agmaniacmike12 said:

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bullard21k said:

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Agmaniacmike12 said:

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We can ***** about the pitching, but the bats have completely went silent for this series. Unless we find some semblance of functional hitting, Verlander and Morton/McHugh's performances will be irrelevant.

We are not hitting pitches in the zone. Plenty of posters have crowned the Yankees starting pitchers, but I frankly haven't seen anything special from any of their starters thus far, we just look lost at the plate.

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We are swinging at sliders that are STARTING 3 inches off the plate and end up 2 foot outside and nearly bouncing to home plate.

This team basically top to bottom has forgotten what has gotten them here...working counts and grinding out at bats. Everyone is trying to get us back in the series with one swing.

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Yes. Much of the bad swings are in 2 strike counts caused by looking at good pitches in earlier counts.

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This. How many first pitch strikes are we gonna stand there and watch? Ridiculous.

I wonder how much history plays a role. Players hear all the fans saying, "We've never won it before, be our savior!" They feel pressure. Other team knows they've won it 30 times and have a huge payroll, so they're destined to win at some point. They play loose.

Would like to see someone crunch some stats and compare regular season vs. playoff batting average of franchises with a history of titles and franchises without. It's probably been done before, everything with baseball stats has been done.

Ag_07 said:

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What bothers me more than that is that we are watching SO many strikes.

Correa is the worst at this. He'll stand there and watch 2 strikes right off the bat. Then nod his head like he knew it was coming.

So frustrating

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I feel the same way. Any of our pitchers throw those and their hitters would be all over them

2004 NLCS. Didn't we go up 3-2 in the series before losing games 6 and 7 in St. Louis?

the Astros starred in their own horror movie this week: "Three days in the Bronx"

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this is so reminiscent of the Dierker years where Biggio, Bagwell, and the other stars could simply not hit in the playoffs. And it pretty much got worse each successive postseason until new blood came along in the 2004 (i.e. Kent, Beltran).

to be fair this is also why the Indians and the Red Sox got knocked out in the ALDS round. Multiple hitters in the top half of their respective orders went ice cold and stayed ice cold thru elimination.

the situation looks grim

Aggie95 said:

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well, they say the hardest game to win is the one to close out a series. As much momentum as the Yankees have...they DO NOT want a game 7, so they will have some pressure in game 6. The big difference being available pitchers for game 7 if we can force it, but just get it there and ANYTHING can happen.

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The yankees are playing with house money this entire postseason. Regardless of whether they win or lose this series, it's been one hell of a rebuilding year. That holding true, they have zero pressure on them in this series. They aren't the 100 win team

I don't believe hitting coaches do jack **** for MLB hitters, but I hope our guys watch some film tonight/tomorrow, take a little BP tomorrow and work on fundamentals of hitting ball up the middle and to the opposite field....and not watching strikes go by.

Situation is indeed grim but we're still alive. Hopefully Houston fans don't flake out and leave MMP with sections of empty seats and we can scratch up some offense at home.

Just have to win one to force a game 7. That's all we can hope for.

Token said:

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Aggie95 said:

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well, they say the hardest game to win is the one to close out a series. As much momentum as the Yankees have...they DO NOT want a game 7, so they will have some pressure in game 6. The big difference being available pitchers for game 7 if we can force it, but just get it there and ANYTHING can happen.

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The yankees are playing with house money this entire postseason. Regardless of whether they win or lose this series, it's been one hell of a rebuilding year. That holding true, they have zero pressure on them in this series. They aren't the 100 win team

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That only works until you get set to advance. That's like saying the Astros were playing with house money against the Royals...they were in games 1 and 2, but once they got to a point they could advance, the "aw shucks glad we just got here ****" goes right out the window.

979ag said:

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I think it is just them trying to clinch 2nd. The last 11 years, the LCS team who has clinched first has lost 10 WS. Astros have a method to this madness

/i hope

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Data analytics!

Gonna try to be at the club bar again friday. Need the good mojo.

I'm calling a close loss in Game 7

maca1028 said:

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maca1028 said:

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2004 NLCS. Didn't we go up 3-2 in the series before losing games 6 and 7 in St. Louis?

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Nevermind, found it. We did the same thing to the Cardinals that the Yankees just did to us and the Cards came away with the series win.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/2004_NLCS.shtml

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Tony LaRussa.

Exactly, Yankees are ahead of schedule and happy to be here. That's how the fans feel, but someone forgot to tell their players.

Agreed. Last 3 games have been a *****, but that's baseball.

You play for home field advantage for a reason. Lets kick some ass game 6 and make this one for the ages. Kick. Some. Ass.

We just need a little luck like the Yankees got in game three with the infield dribbler, bloop single, and flick of the bat three run homer. We need something to get us going and take the pressure off. That, and we need Verlander to go deep again.

If we can get to game seven, I think we have a good chance to score on Sabathia. I felt like we hit him better than the rest of the Yankee starters and just didn't get much to show for it. We'd just have to piece a game together with Morton, McHugh and McCullers. All were effective, with Morton suffering some terrible luck.

It sucks that we're down 2-3 now, but winning two from the Yankees is not impossible. An off day and getting back to MMP will be good for the team.

It's a series like this that I'm thankful for the ignore feature.

We get more home games this way. We already know MLB will probably make us open the roof with the cooler temps this weekend. Hope it remains a huge homefield advantage and bandwagon yankee fans don't buy up the secondary market

iBrad said:

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We just need a little luck like the Yankees got in game three with the infield dribbler, bloop single, and flick of the bat three run homer. We need something to get us going and take the pressure off. That, and we need Verlander to go deep again.

If we can get to game seven, I think we have a good chance to score on Sabathia. I felt like we hit him better than the rest of the Yankee starters and just didn't get much to show for it. We'd just have to piece a game together with Morton, McHugh and McCullers. All were effective, with Morton suffering some terrible luck.

It sucks that we're down 2-3 now, but winning two from the Yankees is not impossible. An off day and getting back to MMP will be good for the team.

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Hopefully Peacock/McHugh can hang with CC if we get to a game 7. But gotta get there first, and that means the ice cold bats need to fix themselves.

hypeiv said:

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As much as pitching let us down in game 4, the real reason we are down 3-2 is because we are averaging 1.8 runs per game. The only reason the series isn't already over is because of our pitching.

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21 for 150
.140

7 XBH, only 1 of those a HR

Pitching has faltered at some key times, particularly game 4, but the hitting has cratered basically team-wide...not just results, but approach as well.

I can't get inside their heads, but I hope they have bad memories. Everything is still there for the taking.

We as fans tend to dwell on the negative past (I am guilty of this, too...experience shapes that outlook, but I am working on it, even at my semi-advanced age...mwm has me beat, heh) and tend to think that it automatically determines the future, and it doesn't.

Those of you going to game 6, check any negative vibes at the door and give our guys a boost.

iBrad said:

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We just need a little luck like the Yankees got in game three with the infield dribbler, bloop single, and flick of the bat three run homer. We need something to get us going and take the pressure off.

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Err we did get that. Don't you remember the catchers interference and two walks.

We were up 4-0

The pressure was "off"

Everything still came off the rails

Can McCullers go in game 7 if he's needed? He did great yesterday.