I really dont think we are looking starter unless its an amazing deal for someone not generally belived to be traded ( Maybe like DeGrom or someone really surprising like Bumgarner, etc someone you could say is definitely ace material.). Gray is borderline, Yanks probably more desperate for SP than us
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Very disappointed that we couldn't get the sale deal done, if what we are hearing is true.
yep, the A's may have been asking for more from the Astros since it would have been an intra-division trade
Yep, inter-division trades of this nature usually have a higher premium attached.
It's hard to compare 1:1, but Fisher was significantly higher in the overall prospect rankings than Fowler was.gigemJTH12 said:no way this matches up that evenly...if so, thats bad on us. I would have made that trade in a heartbeatAg_07 said:
Using the same MLB rankings that would be our
#4 - Fisher
#8 - Paulino
#12 - Jake Rogers
Oakland may have wanted a premium to send a controllable starter to someone in their own division. Also, Billy Beane has a history of ranking prospects differently than the "experts" say he should. He was on record that he wanted a centerfielder, and if we had an offer out there it's entirely possible he just valued Fowler higher than Fisher in that regard.
Read it and weep
Now comparing our 4,8,and 12 is a bit off because our systems aren't equal but it gives an idea.
Now comparing our 4,8,and 12 is a bit off because our systems aren't equal but it gives an idea.
I wonder if Strom was consulted on Liriano to see if he thought he could help get more out of him? Face value the deal doesn't blow me away, but better to have him than Sipp out there given his post season experience and maybe he can make a tweak to improve his number.
I bet Luhnow would have done that deal, too, but doubt Beane would have accepted it. It is just impossible to know what prospects the A's really value from different ballclubs. We have the "public" rankings but every organization is going to have their own internal views so always hard to compare and know what a team would be willing accept.
Wow. How could we not top that. Cubs got Wilson cheaply too. I would have done both deals with similar level prospects and we would be ducking rock stars right now.
aggie1906 said:
Wow. How could we not top that. Cubs got Wilson cheaply too. I would have done both deals with similar level prospects and we would be ducking rock stars right now.
Gross
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If that sets the current value for starters, I wonder what the return for Darvish will look like. Might also mean Lance Lynn could be had for cheap
rosco511 said:
I bet Luhnow would have done that deal, too, but doubt Beane would have accepted it. It is just impossible to know what prospects the A's really value from different ballclubs. We have the "public" rankings but every organization is going to have their own internal views so always hard to compare and know what a team would be willing accept.
Chris Correa might know
That gray trade is nuts. A guy out on TJ? You have no clue how that will work. And another with knee surgery? That makes no sense.
mathguy86 said:
That gray trade is nuts. A guy out on TJ? You have no clue how that will work. And another with knee surgery? That makes no sense.
On the other hand, you can say the exact same thing about Gray. He's been injured a ton over his career
I really do wonder if this is the case. It doesn't seem like we've been heavily rumored to be in any of these SP deals.JJxvi said:
I really dont think we are looking starter unless its an amazing deal for someone not generally belived to be traded ( Maybe like DeGrom or someone really surprising like Bumgarner, etc someone you could say is definitely ace material.). Gray is borderline, Yanks probably more desperate for SP than us
I f that was the price for 3 years of control then Yu should be had on the cheap
I said hell no to Yu earlier, but if we can fleece the Rangers and get Yu, I might be for that.Ag_07 said:
I f that was the price for 3 years of control then Yu should be had on the cheap
I would have easily done equivalent deals on both wilson and gray. Makes me hope something big is in the works.
Commence pants sh-tting. This sucks.
Yep
Hell give them Alvarez, Davis, and lotto ticket
Thinking about it and that seems like too much based on what the Yanks gave up
Hell give them Alvarez, Davis, and lotto ticket
Thinking about it and that seems like too much based on what the Yanks gave up
Everything depends on where we have our prospects ranked compared to where other teams have then ranked, both of which are probably significantly different lists than what we see from the various services that rank prospects.
A case of Bud Light and a tank of gas for Yu
#optimisticnuke is calling Hand and Darvish
Nuke LaLoosh said:
#optimisticnuke
Who the hell is that???
Edited because I fell for the troll
Schrute said:
A case of Bud Light and a tank of gas for Yu
30-pack of Stones and I'll siphon what's left from my tank.
I would imagine that he has **** in the locker room
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