***** Official Houston Astros 2017 Season Thread *****

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10:34p, 6/12/17
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What a crappy game.

I had a feeling this series would get like this. Them coming off a sweep of the Nats and us coming off a lackluster split and beat to shlt.

And holy fck how many times do you need to come out to the mound? You need one more strike with a 5 run lead
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Nuke LaLoosh
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10:36p, 6/12/17
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2 hits tonight. Good job boys.
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Nuke LaLoosh
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10:39p, 6/12/17
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Honestly, if all of our SP are gonna be made of glass, there's not a point in trading for a SP this year. You need 3 to be present and good in the postseason to win it. I don't trust McCullers to be healthy (track record), and pinched nerves are nothin to fk with.
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10:56p, 6/12/17
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When we head into the all-star break on another 10-game win streak, y'all will be feeling much better. You have to ride out the ebbs and flows. If you win 100, you still lose 62.
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In reply to iBrad • 11:00p, 6/12/17
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iBrad said:
When we head into the all-star break on another 10-game win streak, y'all will be feeling much better. You have to ride out the ebbs and flows. If you win 100, you still lose 62.
These aren't normal ebbs and flows. Offensively, yes. Our pitching staff should cause serious concern. Not just the SP health, but the cascading effect it's going to have on the bullpen.
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In reply to Nuke LaLoosh • 11:01p, 6/12/17
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Nuke LaLoosh said:
Honestly, if all of our SP are gonna be made of glass, there's not a point in trading for a SP this year. You need 3 to be present and good in the postseason to win it. I don't trust McCullers to be healthy (track record), and pinched nerves are nothin to fk with.


Relax.
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Nuke LaLoosh
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In reply to k20dub • 11:24p, 6/12/17
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k20dub said:
Nuke LaLoosh said:
Honestly, if all of our SP are gonna be made of glass, there's not a point in trading for a SP this year. You need 3 to be present and good in the postseason to win it. I don't trust McCullers to be healthy (track record), and pinched nerves are nothin to fk with.


Relax.


Lol... this is about as relaxed as I get.
Be of good cheer, Gig'Em
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In reply to Nuke LaLoosh • 6:29a, 6/13/17
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you know this isn't a big deal right
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6:51a, 6/13/17
I really want to put this on the ebbs and flows of a typical MLB season but I can't ever remember a team losing 4 of its SP's in a month. Hopefully a lot of this isn't long term and these guys get back quick.
I'm not really surprised by the slump given the fact that going into the KC series our concerns were adding another quality SP and in turn limiting the bull pen use. Since then the complete opposite has happened. Bottom line, and I'm preaching to the choir here, we need our guys back on the mound. It's nice to have this big cushion in the division but if things spiral out too much that lead can dwindle down quickly.
Does anyone know how many games we were up on the Rangers in 2015 before they came back and took the division?
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In reply to maca1028 • 6:58a, 6/13/17
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maca1028 said:
Does anyone know how many games we were up on the Rangers in 2015 before they came back and took the division?

Not a clue but I bet one of them lurking will jump at the opportunity to let you know.
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9:07a, 6/13/17
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We were up by 2.5 games on the same date in 2015.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/#20150612
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9:59a, 6/13/17
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So the race is now on. Who gets to the bigs first.

Forrest Whitley, JB Bukauskas, & Corbin Martin.
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10:09a, 6/13/17
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Bukauskas seems like the favorite of those three. I have seen some speculation that we could fast track him this year and have him pitch out of the pen in September. His fastball and slider are thought to be that good.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 11:18a, 6/13/17
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aggie1906 said:
So the race is now on. Who gets to the bigs first.

Forrest Whitley, JB Bukauskas, & Corbin Martin.
Bukauskas will win that race, but I think Whitley has the highest potential. Maybe not an ace, but a strong second man in the rotation.

Keuchel, McCullers, Martes, Whitley, Musgrove would be a solid rotation if they all reach their potential.
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11:19a, 6/13/17
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Bit of analysis from Ryan Faegan at Sporting News

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The Astros get great value at #15 with JB Bukauskas, a polished RHP from North Carolina. He was projected as high as #6 in many mock drafts, but his final start for the Tar Heels was a bit of a disaster in the NCAA Tourney against Davidson. If that's the reason he dropped, well, that's kind of awesome for the Astros. If he advances through the minors as expected, he should be one of the first few players from this draft to make the majors.

Again, great pick for Houston at #15
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11:33a, 6/13/17
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Why do we continue to put the ball anywhere near the strike zone against Odor with 2 strikes? The guy will swing at anything when he has 2 strikes, and yet last night Musgrove threw a hittable strike during his first at bat on a 2-2 count that resulted in a triple and then threw another hittable strike during his next at bat on an 0-2 count that luckily resulted in an out. I just do not get how we continue to let this guy beat us with 2 strikes when he has shown terrible plate discipline up to this point in his career.
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11:41a, 6/13/17
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This team needs to wake the **** up.
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In reply to rosco511 • 11:43a, 6/13/17
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rosco511 said:
Why do we continue to put the ball anywhere near the strike zone against Odor with 2 strikes? The guy will swing at anything when he has 2 strikes, and yet last night Musgrove threw a hittable strike during his first at bat on a 2-2 count that resulted in a triple and then threw another hittable strike during his next at bat on an 0-2 count that luckily resulted in an out. I just do not get how we continue to let this guy beat us with 2 strikes when he has shown terrible plate discipline up to this point in his career.

You answered your own question.
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11:44a, 6/13/17
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Altuve, Correa, & Springer all vote leaders in the AS
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In reply to Ag_07 • 12:06p, 6/13/17
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Although I used Musgrove as the example, I feel like our pitching staff as a whole continues to do this with Odor, too, and I just do not understand it. With a hitter like him, you have a good chance he will swing at a breaking ball in the dirt so why even get anywhere close to a hittable strike with 2 strikes.
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12:14p, 6/13/17
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JB Bukkake
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 12:29p, 6/13/17
aggie1906 said:
Altuve, Correa, & Springer all vote leaders in the AS


Pretty amazing for Springer to jump up like that. Winning the AL player of the week did him some work.
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In reply to rosco511 • 12:30p, 6/13/17
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We've held him in check this year (although who hasn't?).

He looked real bad last series when he whiffed to end the game on some crap way outside the zone.

Although I do think our staff has a problem overall with finishing guys when we have 2 strikes on them. Seems they don't quite know how to finish guys when they're ahead.
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In reply to rosco511 • 12:31p, 6/13/17
rosco511 said:
Although I used Musgrove as the example, I feel like our pitching staff as a whole continues to do this with Odor, too, and I just do not understand it. With a hitter like him, you have a good chance he will swing at a breaking ball in the dirt so why even get anywhere close to a hittable strike with 2 strikes.


I remember this very differently. For example, in Arlington, Keuchel pitched around Beltre to load the bases with 2 outs so he could pitch to Odor. He then threw garbage in the dirt, struck him out, and walked to the dugout like a BAMF.
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12:31p, 6/13/17
Giles also struck him out with several pitches out of the zone to seal a win in Arlington.
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In reply to titanmaster_race • 12:56p, 6/13/17
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titanmaster_race said:
aggie1906 said:
Altuve, Correa, & Springer all vote leaders in the AS


Pretty amazing for Springer to jump up like that. Winning the AL player of the week did him some work.
McCann is 2nd.

Yall make sure to do your part. I've maxed out my votes.

4 starters plus maybe Dallas would be pretty fun.
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12:58p, 6/13/17
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Just put in my daily votes
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In reply to titanmaster_race • 1:00p, 6/13/17
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titanmaster_race said:
Giles also struck him out with several pitches out of the zone to seal a win in Arlington.
That was just Giles missing his spot. We are lucky to win any game that Giles has to come in and save.

-Frok, probably.
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1:18p, 6/13/17
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I think its clear what we're doing in this draft. We just snagged our 4th college arm in the first 6 picks.

Yesterday it was JB & Corbin. Today it's been Tyler Ivey (yes, that Tyler Ivey) & Notre Dame's Peter Solomon.
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1:22p, 6/13/17
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91 seems pretty high for Ivey

What's the story on him? He the one busted for pot and kicked off the team right before the season?
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In reply to Ag_07 • 1:23p, 6/13/17
Ag_07 said:
91 seems pretty high for Ivey

What's the story on him? He the one busted for pot and kicked off the team right before the season?
The pot incidence was Stubblefield. Ivey had a problem with Childress "ignoring" him later in the season when he wasn't being used as much.
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1:26p, 6/13/17
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McCullers on the DL now? I guess this season was too good to be true.
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1:31p, 6/13/17
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Reddick likely out for tonight as welll
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In reply to Hulla Baller • 1:32p, 6/13/17
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Hulla Baller said:
McCullers on the DL now? I guess this season was too good to be true.
Welcome to yesterday

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1:32p, 6/13/17
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Soon. #PeacockRedemption

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