**Official Texas Rangers 2017 Season Thread** Staff Warning on OP

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Personally, I give it another month. If on July 15 the Rangers are in pretty much the same position as now, I think you sell. That position being .500 and/or being 10+ games out of the division.

As mhayden has been saying, being with 1 or 2 games of the 2nd wildcard through July is not something that should determine a club being a contender. As of today, every club in the AL is "only a few games out of the WC" outside of Oakland...
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100 degrees + Yovani Gallardo on the mound. Enjoy.
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Quote:


We've added Beltre who is inarguably the leader of this team.
FIFY.
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_lefraud_ said:

Personally, I give it another month. If on July 15 the Rangers are in pretty much the same position as now, I think you sell. That position being .500 and/or being 10+ games out of the division.

As mhayden has been saying, being with 1 or 2 games of the 2nd wildcard through July is not something that should determine a club being a contender. As of today, every club in the AL is "only a few games out of the WC" outside of Oakland...

We're not selling if we're a game back of the WC at the deadline. It's not even worth talking about.
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titanmaster_race said:

Aggie8587 said:

This team honestly is dog**** compared to what we saw 3 weeks ago. No two ways around it.

The sad part is that it's mostly the offense and not the pitching that's been so terrible. Locked in a losing homestand with tonight's loss...


It's par for the course for every homestand this season. The offense completely shuts down at home, and the pitching is usually great. Incredibly frustrating. No home field advantage at all.


I guess that incredibly loyal fan base over there isn't actually good for anything
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If we're hovering at 0.500 at the trade deadline you'll absolutely see us shed some pieces if we can. Not a full blown firesale, but guys like Lucroy and Napoli that don't have a future on this team will be shopped.
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_lefraud_ said:

Personally, I give it another month. If on July 15 the Rangers are in pretty much the same position as now, I think you sell. That position being .500 and/or being 10+ games out of the division.

As mhayden has been saying, being with 1 or 2 games of the 2nd wildcard through July is not something that should determine a club being a contender. As of today, every club in the AL is "only a few games out of the WC" outside of Oakland...
Well, just a week or so ago, and we were not even within like 5 Games of the WC.

By July 15, there will be plenty of separation for many teams. I think we'll have one of the WC spots.

Also, just because we are .500, is no indication of this team. We were 13-19 May 8th. To get to 33-33, we've had to go 20-14. In large part because we've made some adjustments to personnel, ala Dyson. Not that he is solely responsible.
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Seven Costanza said:

100 degrees + Yovani Gallardo on the mound. Enjoy.
Isn't he one of the slowest pitchers?! Ugh. Good thing he only goes about 5IP.
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DallasAg 94 said:

Seven Costanza said:

100 degrees + Yovani Gallardo on the mound. Enjoy.
Isn't he one of the slowest pitchers?! Ugh. Good thing he only goes about 5IP.
He averages 23 seconds between pitches AND throws a ton of pitches. Yu is actually slower, but faces fewer batters.
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PSA: Brinson since getting the call from Milw:
6G, 17 AB, 2 H, 8K, 2 BB, 0R, 0HR, 0RBI.
He has a Triple and a SB.

Small sample, 1st call, but at 23, shows he still has a ways to go. He is 15 months younger than Profar and 11 months older than Mazara.

Wish him well and will continue to have interest. Glad he is getting a chance at the bigs.
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Holy h*ll!!
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I am of the wait and see camp as well when it comes to trade deadline. I could see us making a smaller trade like unloading Napoli or lucroy or maybe even gomez. I don't think we could get much for Napoli but I would like to see lucroy flipped for prospects and have chirinos be primary catcher for second half of season. I could also see us making a smaller deal for a bullpen arm. I don't see us pulling a larger trade like we did for hamels in 2015 or even a trade like we did for lucroy last year. Just my thoughts though...
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I will also be out there this afternoon to endure the Gallardo start. Enjoying some pool time now to prepare for the Hotness that is coming
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rwhitlock3 said:

I will also be out there this afternoon to endure the Gallardo start. Enjoying some pool time now to prepare for the Hotness that is coming


You're gonna be cooking in that sun as he takes about 15 minutes between pitches.
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Cashner to the DL
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Cashner to the DL10 retro to 6/15.
God save the Patriarchy!
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God bless...as soon as we think we're getting back to 100%
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aggietony2010 said:

Cashner to the DL10 retro to 6/15.
With an oblique. Same thing that took out Hamels, right? Is that a red flag somehow?
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Something else to think about.

If I understand the new CBA, a FA with a QO who signs elsewhere for more than $50M, will net the Rangers a pick between the 1st & 2nd Rd. The penalty for signing them has been reduced.

That's a 3yr/$16.7M deal or a 4yr/$12.5M or a 5yr/$10M.

Who might that apply to from the Rangers:
FAs:
Carlos Gomez (31) - $11.5M in 2017
Yu Darvish (30) - $11M in 2017
Andrew Cashner (30) - $10M in 2017
Tyson Ross (30) - $6M in 2017
Jonathan Lucroy (31) $5.2M in 2017

Getting upwards of 5 sandwich picks . Think of the Pool money the Rangers would get. About $2M per pick. You'd really have to do your homework, but that is the type of pool money, where, if you can take a few guys earlier than they thought, offer them less to take them... you could sign even bigger names further down.

If the value of Lucroy is a sandwich pick and $2M of pool money, that's a ton.
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What was the reasoning behind having the game at 4 today?
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Huell Babineaux said:

What was the reasoning behind having the game at 4 today?


Because I already had other plans tonight
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Huell Babineaux said:

What was the reasoning behind having the game at 4 today?
Home field advantage...
DallasAg 94
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Or was it a way to remind Rangers fans why we need a new indoor stadium.
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Not as hot as I was thinking it would be. But I am up in the nosebleeds, mostly shaded with a nice breeze... we will see how long it stays this way
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rwhitlock3 said:

Not as hot as I was thinking it would be. But I am up in the nosebleeds, mostly shaded with a nice breeze... we will see how long it stays this way
TexAgs Live stream?!
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Rangers with a rather rude welcome to their former teammate Gallardo. 5-0 after 1. Even Nap in on it.
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bert harbinson said:

Rangers with a rather rude welcome to their former teammate Gallardo. 5-0 after 1. Even Nap in on it.
I'm sure his teammates appreciated the 25 mins (or however long it was) in the heat.
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bert harbinson said:

Rangers with a rather rude welcome to their former teammate Gallardo. 5-0 after 1. Even Nap in on it.

All with 2 outs no less
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39 PC through 2.0 IP for Gallardo.
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Now I wanna see Perez pound the strike zone with a big lead!
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Choo getting a damn workout this half inning.
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Perez 58 PC through 3.0 IP.
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Perez may end up having more pitches through 3 than Gallardo. I just don't think he's ever going to have it all put together
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Those two guys behind home plate dressed as an ump and a catcher
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Alabaster Jones said:

Perez may end up having more pitches through 3 than Gallardo. I just don't think he's ever going to have it all put together
I want to believe in Perez. I've been one of his biggest cheerleaders, but man... Walking Cano to face Cruz with 2 on...

You'd think with:
Hamels (33, 343 GS, 3.31, 1.161),
Darvish (30, 114 GS, 3.26, 1.172),
Ross (30, 103 GS, 3.63, 1.316)
and Cashner (30, 121 GS, 3.86, 1.332)
that Perez (26, 94 GS, 4.32, 1.434)

has to be able to osmosis some mental game.

Now, they do have some years on him (at least 4), and he isn't that far behind in GS, but... come on.

Have the Rangers just rushed him along too fast?! Darvish has 20 more GS, Ross has 9 and Cashner has 27. ALL 3 are within one season's GS.
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