Finding ways to lose.

Christ Joey! Turn on the jets! Should've scored there.

Gomez just has no chance here

I'm nearly certain Gomez will strike out to end it here. Please prove me wrong

What is the record for blown saves? Seriously

Chipotlemonger said:

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Finding ways to lose.

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Not this time. Used a tried and true formula.

Fitting that it ends with the bases loaded. Terrible loss and terrible at bat by Gomez.

39 blown saves by the '96 Rockies. We can do it

4 blown saves during this road trip

Huell Babineaux said:

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What is the record for blown saves? Seriously

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E. Grant says 34. Rangers on pace for 33.6.

If Pinto isn't hitting well, that entire A+ team isn't hitting well.

FWIW, at 22, he's younger than average for that roster.

His defense must be terrible and/or he's just not been showing progress from season to season.

You would think by now the bullpen would understand how walks can be killer. Apparently not. This isn't little league where the games end after 7 innings. We need to sell and reload the farm. Andrus, Odor, Mazara, Gallo are all good pieces to build on, and try to compete again next year

TXAggie2011 said:

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If Pinto isn't hitting well, that entire A+ team isn't hitting well.

FWIW, at 22, he's younger than average for that roster.

His defense must be terrible and/or he's just not been showing progress from season to season.

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It isn't just about "hitting well."

I don't know that park. It is new to the Rangers organization.

Things to consider...

• Age
• Was he drafted out of HS or College or Intl
• How long has he been in the organization
• Which direction is he headed
• How much control does the team have
• What position does he play
• Injuries

Reference:

Eduard Pinto (22): DOB: 10/23/94
Int'l signing
Been with the Rangers' organization for 7 years.
Played at AA last year.
Rule V Eligible
Plays OF. No power. Limited speed.

Today's lineup:
Lipka (25-CF): 12/27/93 - 2010 CompA Draft by Atl. Has played AAA, AA and now A+ for Rangers.
Rollin (21-LF): 08/26/95 - DR - Signed 2014
Y. Perez (21-1B): 08/10/95 - Cuba
La O: (25-2B) 12/9/91 - Cuba - Signed in Jan 2017
Hoosier (23-DH): 12/24/93 - 2013 Rd8
Altmann (22-3B): 07/06/94 - 2015 Rd22
Moorman (23-C): 01/09/94 - 2012 Rd17
LeDarious Clark (23-OF): 12/27/93 - 2015 Rd12
B. Perez (21-SS): 01/27/96 - Columbia (Signed 2013)

I'm not going to make any arguments for where Pinto compares to each player. He plays OF... a position of surplus. He has limited team control after being in the organization a long time. They know his ceiling. I don't know other than LeDarious Clark, that any of those players are even in the field of view for the Rangers long-term.

Everyone go freaking vote Elvis in as an all-star.

Here's the link: https://www.mlb.com/all-star/final-vote

Our Round Rock team now sucks....it was full of prospects...now it's full of players you pray don't get called up...and a losing record

jtstanley4621 said:

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Everyone go freaking vote Elvis in as an all-star.

Here's the link: https://www.mlb.com/all-star/final-vote

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Luckily for the Rangers, every team must be represented at the all-star game.

Ryno01 said:

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Our Round Rock team now sucks....it was full of prospects...now it's full of players you pray don't get called up...and a losing record

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Most of our prospects are in Frisco.

Round Rock is going to be affiliated with the Astros soon, so I'm guessing the Rangers are fine with them not winning or doing well.

Having said that... last I checked they had like two guys 35 or older in their rotation.

_lefraud_ said:

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jtstanley4621 said:

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Everyone go freaking vote Elvis in as an all-star.

Here's the link: https://www.mlb.com/all-star/final-vote

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Luckily for the Rangers, every team must be represented at the all-star game.

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Yu made the roster

I don't think there's a limit to how many times you can vote from now until Thursday. LETS GET ELVIS TO THE EFFING GAME HE DESERVES IT

Y'all remember Corey Knebel? Got him from Detroit for Sofia and then traded him and a couple others for Gallardo? Well he's an all star closer for the Brewers at 25.

DallasAg 94 said:

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Ryno01 said:

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Our Round Rock team now sucks....it was full of prospects...now it's full of players you pray don't get called up...and a losing record

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Most of our prospects are in Frisco.

Round Rock is going to be affiliated with the Astros soon, so I'm guessing the Rangers are fine with them not winning or doing well.

Having said that... last I checked they had like two guys 35 or older in their rotation.

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No way!!!! you still want them to win...the players don't turn to Astro players...their still ours just will be in a different location. We used to have prospects in ROund Rock and Frisco....

I've been visiting Express games for the last 6 years and this is the worst I remember

DallasAg 94 said:

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TXAggie2011 said:

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If Pinto isn't hitting well, that entire A+ team isn't hitting well.

FWIW, at 22, he's younger than average for that roster.

His defense must be terrible and/or he's just not been showing progress from season to season.

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It isn't just about "hitting well."

I don't know that park. It is new to the Rangers organization.

Things to consider...

• Age
• Was he drafted out of HS or College or Intl
• How long has he been in the organization
• Which direction is he headed
• How much control does the team have
• What position does he play
• Injuries

Reference:

Eduard Pinto (22): DOB: 10/23/94
Int'l signing
Been with the Rangers' organization for 7 years.
Played at AA last year.
Rule V Eligible
Plays OF. No power. Limited speed.

Today's lineup:
Lipka (25-CF): 12/27/93 - 2010 CompA Draft by Atl. Has played AAA, AA and now A+ for Rangers.
Rollin (21-LF): 08/26/95 - DR - Signed 2014
Y. Perez (21-1B): 08/10/95 - Cuba
La O: (25-2B) 12/9/91 - Cuba - Signed in Jan 2017
Hoosier (23-DH): 12/24/93 - 2013 Rd8
Altmann (22-3B): 07/06/94 - 2015 Rd22
Moorman (23-C): 01/09/94 - 2012 Rd17
LeDarious Clark (23-OF): 12/27/93 - 2015 Rd12
B. Perez (21-SS): 01/27/96 - Columbia (Signed 2013)

I'm not going to make any arguments for where Pinto compares to each player. He plays OF... a position of surplus. He has limited team control after being in the organization a long time. They know his ceiling. I don't know other than LeDarious Clark, that any of those players are even in the field of view for the Rangers long-term.

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I think he's hit well and from a Toronto standpoint that's more than you could expect from this.

I thought you didn't argue with me anymore.

A study of AAA records the year before and current year and their correlation to the MLB record would be interesting.

They guy has a minor league career batting average of .309. That includes a significant sample size at AA. We just traded him for a 40 year old with a 6.97 ERA that was DFA. I know that Pinto was a fringe prospect. But he still had some value, however small. Daniels has shown a tendency to waste roster spots on relievers and now Odubel Herrera is starting for the Phillies because of this. I hope that Pinto doesn't turn out the same.

demack06 said:

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_lefraud_ said:

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jtstanley4621 said:

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Everyone go freaking vote Elvis in as an all-star.

Here's the link: https://www.mlb.com/all-star/final-vote

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Luckily for the Rangers, every team must be represented at the all-star game.

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Yu made the roster

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I was hoping to be able to vote in Odor. Not because he really deserves it, but to piss off Astros and Blue Jays fans.

I'm not a hothead that calls for firings at the drop of a hat, but, are the Rangers' owners possibly ever so slightly turning their heads with one raised eyebrow toward Daniels?

I'm sure on a scale of 1 - 100, the likelihood is a 1. Is there any chance that's close to being a 4 or 5?

Jon Daniels isn't going anywhere. The one guy whose ass is on fire right now is Doug Brocail.

hawk1689 said:

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They guy has a minor league career batting average of .309. That includes a significant sample size at AA. We just traded him for a 40 year old with a 6.97 ERA that was DFA. I know that Pinto was a fringe prospect. But he still had some value, however small. Daniels has shown a tendency to waste roster spots on relievers and now Odubel Herrera is starting for the Phillies because of this. I hope that Pinto doesn't turn out the same.

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Ugh... had this post all typed out, and lost it.

Summary... Herrera was a Rule V guy drafted by Philly. He was being converted to OF (11 G in 2014 in OF). Let me know whom you would have left off the 40, during the winter that year, to protect Herrera... a guy who had never made it past AA and buried behing younger guys like Profar and Odor. Alberta was ahead of him and Elvis had SS locked up. Which is why they were converting him.

Herrera had tremendous speed (34 SB in one season) and solid Defense.

Herrera has been a nice find, but he was far from a sure thing when the Phillies took him. The Rangers could have kept him, and passed on taking Deshields from Houston. Herrera has been a better player than DD, but its not like that trade-off has been a disaster that Rangers fans or front office should be that bothered by what could have been.