************* Houston Rockets 23-24 Season thread ****************

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The Ringer's mock draft has us taking Nikola Topic out of Serbia

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Thank you, James Harden! Houston gets this pick courtesy of the Nets from the Harden deal, and after jumping from the ninth-best odds to the third pick, now maybe it'll be able to find the point guard of its future. There'd be no pressure for Topic with Fred VanVleet already under contract. He could learn from him while working to improve his jumper and adjusting to NBA physicality. With the Rockets ascending, however, I'd also expect the front office to be active in trade talks that could move them out of the draft entirely in exchange for a proven star.

Shades of: Goran Dragic
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I think Washington takes him.

Topic also doesn't play defense and can't shoot. Doesn't seem like a Udoka guy
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Able to clear Rob Dillingham in single bound
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I have a bad feeling he will go #2 and we will end up with French Jabari.
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I think that Washington goes with Topic or Clingan. I don't think they take Reed or Dilly or a long wing.
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Topic just hurt his knee again. Clingan is a suckers bet.
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His knee injury is a sprain and he will be doing the draft stuff in June. Also we are talking about the team that gave out the Bradley Beal and John Wall contracts, then traded for Jordan Poole's contract.

Clingan will be a better Jakob Poeltl. Not going to dominate, but will you a solid 12/9 and good rim protection. That's pretty solid in this ****astic draft.
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lol Clingan is about the only player I'd bet on to get a second contract in the NBA. Every other guy in this draft has a floor of "out of the league in 3 years."
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Clingan is 7' 2'' with a history of foot injuries. His floor is also "out of the league in 3 years".

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Ok, sure but any player can get injured. I'm talking from a pure basketball talent level.
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I think people are overestimating Clingan based upon the success of Walker Kessler. The large slow center had largely gone out of fashion until Kessler put on a show last year. The thing people forget is that Kessler averaged >4 blocks per game in college, while Clingan barely got to 2.5. They aren't close to the same player.

I'm actually curious why you think Clingan will be better than Zach Edey?

Edey was more productive in almost every category in college. He has also tested better at the combine in agility drills. Clingan is testing like an incredibly slow footed plodder.

If I'm betting on a behemoth I'm picking Edey. At the very least he put up big offensive numbers consistently. He even torched Clingan for 37 in the title game. That said, I don't think either of them will be able to cover enough space laterally to be impactful on the defensive end in the NBA.
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AG@RICE said:

I think people are overestimating Clingan based upon the success of Walker Kessler. The large slow center had largely gone out of fashion until Kessler put on a show last year. The thing people forget is that Kessler averaged >4 blocks per game in college, while Clingan barely got to 2.5. They aren't close to the same player.

I'm actually curious why you think Clingan will be better than Zach Edey?

Edey was more productive in almost every category in college. He has also tested better at the combine in agility drills. Clingan is testing like an incredibly slow footed plodder.

If I'm betting on a behemoth I'm picking Edey. At the very least he put up big offensive numbers consistently. He even torched Clingan for 37 in the title game. That said, I don't think either of them will be able to cover enough space laterally to be impactful on the defensive end in the NBA.
I too was shocked at Edey vs Clingan's combine numbers but watching them actually play in games, to me it's not close. Edey may have tested better in an open gym against air, but I've seen enough games to know he's the much slower player in a real game. Clingan conversely just plays bouncier, regardless of what the combine said.

If I'm predicting what the role for both players are; I think the likely outcome for Edey is a change of pace limited 3rd string C. Whereas Clingan will be a bonafide #2. Kessler I think is Clingan's 'comp' because they're both white guys but I think his upside comp is closer to Jarrett Allen.
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Eh...I kinda think they will both end up being Boban-esque
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"**** them kids."
- Michael Jordan
-FVV
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Reported interest in Donovan Mitchell
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Space City sports is rebroadcasting the '94 Finals this week! Game 3 is on tonight, exactly 30 years to the night after Sam Cassell buried the Knicks in NY.
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Nobody talking rockets even with draft tomorrow and we have 3rd pick?
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Mikal Bridges to the Knicks for Bogdanovic and 5 1st round picks.
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Rockets winning this trade
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LMAO. The Nets won't be competitive until 2058.
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Thank God PHX won't give up KD. Let's not get a dinosaur.
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Book would be a smarter choice than Durant.
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Booker, interesting. Assume we move on from Green if that's the case.
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Phoenix isn't trading anyone this year for those picks. They still have hope their stupidly constructed team will compete this year. This is a long game by Stone. He knows that team will crumble in a year or two and he will take them for their best assets in a moment of weakness...just like he did with Brooklyn.
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Sounds like consensus is Reed Sheppard at number 3 tonight
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CFTXAG10 said:

Sounds like consensus is Reed Sheppard at number 3 tonight


I think he's the right pick. Going to be an elite shooter and gives huge effort on defense. High IQ on both ends.
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Textbook 3-and-D guy in a weak draft. Our interior defense is average, but nobody in this draft stands out as a help in that area that wouldn't also clog up the paint on the offensive end. Reed needs to be the pick.
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CFTXAG10 said:

Sounds like consensus is Reed Sheppard at number 3 tonight
I'm still paranoid we will get Bancheroed, and Washington or Atlanta will take him. He is the only player in the draft with an identifiable elite skill.

If Reed isn't available, I'd rather just trade the pick. I'm worried we will end up with Sarr or Clingan, who won't really change our future much.

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I feel like there's a trade somewhere with all of these young guys. I don't know who to target and who to trade though.
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On the clock
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Reed. Smart pick.
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Reed Sheppard stopped by Steinmart on the way to the draft to get that suit.
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Give my boy a south side fade stat.
 
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