NBA Champion Derrick White

Reports that OG isn't happy with NYK's initial offer and may test FA.

Enzo The Baker said:

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Reports that OG isn't happy with NYK's initial offer and may test FA.

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We would have to S&T but Knicks will get it done. OG's agent's dad is President of the Knicks

That makes sense. One can dream.

He's the ultimate high-end 3 and D player at the 3 spot IMO. We get him (with minimal draft capital being used) then Castle and a shooter in the draft and we are an immediate playin contender IMO.

People talk about Risacher as a 3&D wing, but honestly I don't see it. He lacks the measurements on D and has an above average defense ceiling at best IMO. And, although he is young, I'm not convinced of his shot either. The more time that passes, the less high I am on Risacher and feel like a move for him would be partially to appease Victor with the ASVEL connection.

I agree with all that but feel that OG can be kind of a headache. He thinks he deserves a max and a big offensive role.he also misses a lot of games with various ailments.

I like his fit a lot, but mayb not his mental/attitude.

Guitarsoup said:

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I agree with all that but feel that OG can be kind of a headache. He thinks he deserves a max and a big offensive role.he also misses a lot of games with various ailments.

I like his fit a lot, but mayb not his mental/attitude.

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Guys that just don't play much worry me.

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Guitarsoup said:

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I agree with all that but feel that OG can be kind of a headache. He thinks he deserves a max and a big offensive role.he also misses a lot of games with various ailments.

I like his fit a lot, but mayb not his mental/attitude.

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Guys that just don't play much worry me.

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Wow. Looking at the games missed over his career. Yep. Never mind.

OG has played in 208 of a possible 328 games over his last four seasons, and he’s only 26. I’m a fan, but if you’re gonna hand over a giant bag you’d better get every medical expert in your Rolodex to examine this dude in an observation chamber for like a whole week. https://t.co/v6VhdFcaKa

— Matthew Tynan (@Matthew_Tynan) June 18, 2024

Devin is like 4/134-150M so I think OG is like 4/160-180, but he's gonna get over 200.

Over paying a guy that is hurt a lot and is realistically a #3-4 offensive player is what kills teams with new cap rules

Kings trying to do Huerter, Barnes, and picks for Caruso and LaVine

Guitarsoup said:

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Kings trying to do Huerter, Barnes, and picks for Caruso and LaVine

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That is gross, for both teams.

If I'm the bulls, getting rid of 3y/140M of Lavine is worth contract year of Caruso plus getting picks.

Barnes and Huerter both have 2y left at about 12% of cap. Both would be easy to move.

LaVine gives a high level 3rd scorer if he's ever healthy and Caruso is an elite glue guy.

ACFresh is the only player here I like, but I think it works for both teams

ESPN Sources: After one season, the Detroit Pistons have dismissed coach Monty Williams — who leaves with five years and $65M-plus left on his deal. New President Trajan Langdon will move to make his own coaching hire now. pic.twitter.com/QHKivQS5o2

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 19, 2024

Givony is reporting Stephon Castle and Devin Carter worked out against one another in San Antonio last week. https://t.co/L4IRfM9iDp

— Matthew Tynan (@Matthew_Tynan) June 19, 2024

West Texan said:

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Givony is reporting Stephon Castle and Devin Carter worked out against one another in San Antonio last week. https://t.co/L4IRfM9iDp

— Matthew Tynan (@Matthew_Tynan) June 19, 2024

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That is wild. Wonder which one looked better. Just take both.

If Risacher is gone at 4, I wouldn't be surprised if those are our two picks.

Enzo The Baker said:

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West Texan said:

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Givony is reporting Stephon Castle and Devin Carter worked out against one another in San Antonio last week. https://t.co/L4IRfM9iDp

— Matthew Tynan (@Matthew_Tynan) June 19, 2024

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That is wild. Wonder which one looked better. Just take both.

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Bleacher Report latest Mock Draft has exactly that. Castle at 4 and Carter at 8.

West Texan said:

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Good lord Detroit is a dumpster fire of an organization. Monty may not be the greatest coach ever, but they gave him a big contract only to eat that money after one season where his best player was hurt?

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Right?? They begged him to take that job. He'd said he wanted to take a year away from coaching and they just kept piling money on. Unbelievable. Detroit is unserious.

Also, kinda dig PATFO doing highlander ish on Castle and Carter. I hope Tim (in his dreads and holding a massive sword from his personal collection) watched casually.

Spurs related notes from Jonathan Givony and Jeremy Woo latest mock draft

Spurs quite intrigued by Reed Sheppard, Sheppard worked out with Spurs last week.

Zaccharie Risacher will work out with Spurs on Friday

Spurs featured a workout where Stephon Castle and Devin Carter played against each other

Tidjane Salaun rolled his ankle during Spurs workout

Rob Dillingham will work out with Spurs today

Nikola Topic will visit with the Spurs before the draft

Ja'Kobe Walter had a 1 on 0 workout with Spurs

Spurs had a workout with Tyler Kolek

Pacome Dadiet will visit with the Spurs before the draft

Spurs had a workout with Cody Williams

SPECULATIVE NOTES:

Rival Teams have discussed the possibility of the Spurs moving Atlanta's 2025 unprotected pick along with one of their 2024 picks to move up to Pick 1.
*Givony notes it would be difficult to fathom the Spurs doing that.

*Rival teams would be surprised if Knecht made it past picks 7 and 8. He is a coveted player and his range seems cemented in the 4-9 range.

Spurs don't appear to be a Clingan landing spot

Spurs previous draft strategy favors positional size, length and intangibles. Stephon Castle and Cody Williams to a lesser extent both fit that mold.

*Cody's camp has confidence he'll be picked in the top 10

Spurs have a need for shooting so named like Sheppard, Knecht, Dillingham, Risacher and obvious fits

Mentions the possibility of the Spurs looking to add a veteran point guard like Chris Paul to mentor the team's guards if that's a position they decide to draft.

West Texan said:

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If we use the Atlanta unprotected pick to move up this year, I'm gonna be super disappointed.

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There's just no way. Atlanta wants that so they don't pay Clingan #1 money

Devin Carter watched Jalen Brunson when learning how to improve scoring in the paint.

At-rim finishing (half court)
Soph: 42.2 FG%
Junior: 62.3 FG%

Stats via @SynergySST. A major improvement after becoming a two-foot finisher. pic.twitter.com/v3iFKgo604

— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) June 19, 2024

Sign me up at 8

Guitarsoup said:

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West Texan said:

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If we use the Atlanta unprotected pick to move up this year, I'm gonna be super disappointed.

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There's just no way. Atlanta wants that so they don't pay Clingan #1 money

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What if they throw in another pick swap?

FWIW. NBA Exec: Sarr may be sliding. Castle could go 1 to ATL, But scares other teams bc of poor shooting. Salaun's stock is rising after great workouts. Same with Ja'Kobe Walter who could vault into top 5.
Crazy draft. Anybody's guess. About the the only lock is Sheppard at 3 to…

— Don Harris (@DonHarris4) June 20, 2024

'NBA Exec' probably from the hawks. Doing everything they can to trade this pick.

Alot of talk about the Hawks taking Clingen first overall and Risacher going ahead of Sarr. Would the Rockets take Sarr if he was there? If he's there at 4 the Spurs would be crazy not to take him. Then, what do they do at 8? Wing or G?

jteagle said:

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Alot of talk about the Hawks taking Clingen first overall and Risacher going ahead of Sarr. Would the Rockets take Sarr if he was there? If he's there at 4 the Spurs would be crazy not to take him. Then, what do they do at 8? Wing or G?

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I don't know that Sarr or Clingan fits well with Jabari and Sengun.


If Sarr falls to 4, we take him and either Castle or Carter at 8

jteagle said:

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Alot of talk about the Hawks taking Clingen first overall and Risacher going ahead of Sarr. Would the Rockets take Sarr if he was there? If he's there at 4 the Spurs would be crazy not to take him. Then, what do they do at 8? Wing or G?

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I don't think Houston would go for Sarr. The fit there doesn't make sense to me with Sengun and Jabari. I do think Sarr would could theoretically better fit with the Spurs as Victor can play anywhere. But the way Collins held Victor back makes me hesitant to take him. I know Sarr is a completely different profile defensively, but the spacing to me would still be funky. I would be good with drafting him at 4, just because I think he can be so transformative for us for our defensive front line, but Castle is still my guy. I would want to move up from 8 to get Castle if we take Sarr.

But honestly, I really think Atlanta is just shaking trees to trade down. If they held onto the #1 pick, I don't see how they don't take Sarr or how Washington passes up on him at #2. It is interesting how he hasn't worked out for the Hawks yet though. That's kind of a curveball that could change things.

Despite the Collins issue, I think Sarr could work. We saw how much damage Dallas did with two athletic rim runners. Sarr and Wemby would be so switchable and I think Sarr can at least develop a corner three. He shot 30% this year on t o attempts a game.

Sarr is athletic, legit 7'1 in shoes with 9'2 standing reach and nearly 7'5 wingspan. Two years of development of him and Sochan and the Wemby, Sarr, Sochan front court would be a nightmare for other teams to go up against. But would be a nightmare for us i on offense if Sochan and Sarr can't hit at 37% or better from 3

Guitarsoup said:

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Despite the Collins issue, I think Sarr could work. We saw how much damage Dallas did with two athletic rim runners. Sarr and Wemby would be so switchable and I think Sarr can at least develop a corner three. He shot 30% this year on t o attempts a game.

Sarr is athletic, legit 7'1 in shoes with 9'2 standing reach and nearly 7'5 wingspan. Two years of development of him and Sochan and the Wemby, Sarr, Sochan front court would be a nightmare for other teams to go up against. But would be a nightmare for us i on offense if Sochan and Sarr can't hit at 37% or better from 3

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Exactly. I think the fit (long term) all depends on the ability of our 3 frontline guys to be consistent and respectable from 3. And I trust Vic and Sochan to improve. So it could work. I don't know much about Sarr's work ethic.

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Enzo The Baker said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Despite the Collins issue, I think Sarr could work. We saw how much damage Dallas did with two athletic rim runners. Sarr and Wemby would be so switchable and I think Sarr can at least develop a corner three. He shot 30% this year on t o attempts a game.

Sarr is athletic, legit 7'1 in shoes with 9'2 standing reach and nearly 7'5 wingspan. Two years of development of him and Sochan and the Wemby, Sarr, Sochan front court would be a nightmare for other teams to go up against. But would be a nightmare for us i on offense if Sochan and Sarr can't hit at 37% or better from 3

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Exactly. I think the fit (long term) all depends on the ability of our 3 frontline guys to be consistent and respectable from 3. And I trust Vic and Sochan to improve. So it could work. I don't know much about Sarr's work ethic.

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Luckily, I think we have some spies inside French Basketball.

In addition to the obvious connections in Diaw, Wemby, Cissiko, Parker, Parker's brother that coaches for the Austin Spurs, Wemby 's Mets 92 coach is the French NT coach and has been forever.

If either of the French guys is there at 4 you have to grab them. Sarr's upside is well worth the offensive question marks to me, having two mobile giants on the backline could cause major problems for opposing offenses. Both Sarr and Wemby can switch onto guards and not look stupid, which will force teams to really think about trotting out smallball lineups against us since both of them are also great rim finishers that can punish smaller matchups. Also would make our roster tailor-made for the next available star lead ballhandler, with 2 major lob threats. If Sarr ever learns to shoot 3's at even a below average clip, I could easily see that frontcourt being the backbone of a contender.

Sarr at #4 would be pretty amazing.