*****OFFICIAL 2019-2020 Houston Rockets*****

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MuckRaker96 said:

Hey if the Nets want him so bad, tell them we'll take Kyrie Irving in return.

Otherwise, **** James Harden. Have him play 48 minutes a night until he drops dead. Then trade him to the team willing to offer the most draft picks.

Lowe and Windy were saying for Houston to take the deal with BK, it would have to be three 1sts with two pick swaps in between, in addition to Allen, LeVert and Dinwiddie.
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Can anyone explain the Roco for Ariza trade if the Rockets are intending to keep harden?

Ariza is objectively worse at every aspect of basketball than RoCo.
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M.C. Swag said:

Can anyone explain the Roco for Ariza trade if the Rockets are intending to keep harden?

Ariza is objectively worse at every aspect of basketball than RoCo.
I think it's a foregone conclusion that Harden is gone, just not sure whether it is before the season or during. We appear to be in full blown tank/rebuilding mode.
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M.C. Swag said:

Can anyone explain the Roco for Ariza trade if the Rockets are intending to keep harden?

Ariza is objectively worse at every aspect of basketball than RoCo.
Well Perk has been pretty spot on, and he is touting the relationship Ariza has with Harden. RoCo was thought to be the final piece to the small ball puzzle and it clearly didn't work out. Plus vet min Jeff Green was playing just as good if not better than RoCo during the playoffs.

Hard to turn down two firsts and an expiring contract, especially when that contract is one of Harden's buddies. Even though the trade rumor winds are swirling there have also been plenty of folks suggesting the Rockets are going to try to entice Harden to stay whether the fan base likes it or not.
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If the richest contract isn't going to make him stay, bringing back a role player he's buddies with won't.

I think Harden has made it very clear he wants out. Management needs to shop and find the best deal for the Rockets, not what makes Harden happy. Same with Westbrook, move his ass out. Bring on the tank.
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Farmer1906 said:

If the richest contract isn't going to make him stay, bringing back a role player he's buddies with won't.

I think Harden has made it very clear he wants out. Management needs to shop and find the best deal for the Rockets, not what makes Harden happy. Same with Westbrook, move his ass out. Bring on the tank.
I agree, but I would still make that RoCo trade every day of the week regardless of what we end up doing with Harden. Now you got two firsts and get rid of a 12.1/12.9 mill contract the next two years for Ariza's 12.8 expiring this year that is very movable.
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100% agree. I like the move. It's cleaning up after Morey went a little crazy to try to get the team just right.
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Damn.

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Enzo The Baker said:

MuckRaker96 said:

Hey if the Nets want him so bad, tell them we'll take Kyrie Irving in return.

Otherwise, **** James Harden. Have him play 48 minutes a night until he drops dead. Then trade him to the team willing to offer the most draft picks.

Lowe and Windy were saying for Houston to take the deal with BK, it would have to be three 1sts with two pick swaps in between, in addition to Allen, LeVert and Dinwiddie.
The old saying is that in the NBA, the team that gets the best player wins the trade. We aren't going to get a player that's currently better than Harden, but we have to at least give ourselves a chance to win the trade with picks or young player.

BKN offering the 19th pick this year, plus what will certainly end up being bottom of the 1st round thereafter. Got to hold out for lottery picks. I guess you could turn around and flip those BKN guys for more picks, but you've got to make sure you get a good enough guaranteed haul on the Harden trade and then any other value you create from it later is a bonus.

Send him to GS for Wiggins + salary filler + the #2 pick this year + the T-wolves 2022 first rounder that they got in the Wiggins trade. Flip Wiggins for more picks. Kerr was good with moper KD. Maybe he can pacify the beard baby as well.
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On another note, part of me wants Harden to BKN because I think it would be fun watching the implosion of the most emo superteam of all time led by a rookie HC with no experience. All 3 of those guys are so talented, but they are all soyboys who turn sour in a heartbeat if things don't go their way.
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So we actually get to care about the NBA Draft this time. It's been awhile. Googled "2020 nba mock draft" for the first time this year.

Looks like Tyrese Maxey is projected to be around in the 12-18 pick range, which seems absurd to me. Would be amazing if we could get him.

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Harry Dunne said:

On another note, part of me wants Harden to BKN because I think it would be fun watching the implosion of the most emo superteam of all time led by a rookie HC with no experience. All 3 of those guys are so talented, but they are all soyboys who turn sour in a heartbeat if things don't go their way.


I look forward to Durant creating some fake Twitter accounts to complain about Harden ball hogging
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RJ Hampton and Maxey are the highest potential players available at 16.
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CFTXAG10 said:

Damn.


Too bad those picks are still worthless 90% of the time
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Give me RJ Hampton all day. Kid has unreal athleticism and has a high ceiling.
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Aggie09Derek said:

Give me RJ Hampton all day. Kid has unreal athleticism and has a high ceiling.
A combo guard who didn't exactly set the world on fire in New Zealand? Ionno...
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His shot is broken. He has everything else
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Guitarsoup said:

Harry Dunne said:

On another note, part of me wants Harden to BKN because I think it would be fun watching the implosion of the most emo superteam of all time led by a rookie HC with no experience. All 3 of those guys are so talented, but they are all soyboys who turn sour in a heartbeat if things don't go their way.


I look forward to Durant creating some fake Twitter accounts to complain about Harden ball hogging
I wouldn't mind taking the Nets' next pick. Durant will probably blow a gasket 20 games in and miss the year and then James and Kyrie can slowly start Hate Fest 2021.

When three straight superstars - Howard, Paul, Westbrook - all can't get along with Harden, you start to think about your friend who keeps claiming all his girlfriends are crazy - maybe, just maybe, he's the problem.
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They don't have the assets if jrue just got 3 first rounders. I don't see it
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Head Ninja In Charge said:

Aggie09Derek said:

Give me RJ Hampton all day. Kid has unreal athleticism and has a high ceiling.
A combo guard who didn't exactly set the world on fire in New Zealand? Ionno...


He was playing in a legit league from the jump and was given a role.
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Probably trying to outscoop everyone and no real deal yet.
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YNWA_AG said:

They don't have the assets if jrue just got 3 first rounders. I don't see it


The picks aren't worth much.
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The nets picks would be worth even less than those jrue picks. Come on now
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Aggie09Derek said:

Probably trying to outscoop everyone and no real deal yet.
Wondering the same. Not a lot of traction anywhere else.
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I'm a Spurs fan so take it for what it's worth but it's best to just find the best package for him and move on, you're probably gonna get fleeced but once a player wants out, it's all you got.
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Chris Broussard just went on and said that Durant wants Harden, but Kyrie doesn't want him.

Good luck, Nash!

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Guitarsoup said:

Chris Broussard just went on and said that Durant wants Harden, but Kyrie doesn't want him.

Good luck, Nash!


Because Kyrie knows he's not very valuable once Harden joins. Harden can do everything Kyrie can do, and do it better. I just don't see a big need for Kyrie if you have ballhandlers like Durant and Harden on the floor, unless Kyrie is going to run with the 2s.
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Texan_Aggie said:

Guitarsoup said:

Chris Broussard just went on and said that Durant wants Harden, but Kyrie doesn't want him.

Good luck, Nash!


Because Kyrie knows he's not very valuable once Harden joins. Harden can do everything Kyrie can do, and do it better. I just don't see a big need for Kyrie if you have ballhandlers like Durant and Harden on the floor, unless Kyrie is going to run with the 2s.


I that sure would be fun after Kyrie left a really good Boston team to go to the Nets.
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IF Harden were traded to Brooklyn his game would have to change A LOT. Not only are you sharing the rock with Durant but also Kyrie and his handles. This isn't bringing in Paul or Russ. You are joining forces with two guys where you are the outsider. It is not a wild guess but me thinks that will not end well....

The Iko article on The Athletic is interesting. Sounds like nothing is really FINAL, and the amount of ties and projects Harden has going on in Houston are quite bountiful. It also tells us pretty much what we already knew, Tilman is going to run this franchise into the ground....
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Screw the fertittas
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"League Sources" = Darryl Morey
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CFTXAG10 said:

IF Harden were traded to Brooklyn his game would have to change A LOT. Not only are you sharing the rock with Durant but also Kyrie and his handles. This isn't bringing in Paul or Russ. You are joining forces with two guys where you are the outsider. It is not a wild guess but me thinks that will not end well....

The Iko article on The Athletic is interesting. Sounds like nothing is really FINAL, and the amount of ties and projects Harden has going on in Houston are quite bountiful. It also tells us pretty much what we already knew, Tilman is going to run this franchise into the ground....


Going to disagree with you and say that it can definitely work.
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Good Poster said:

CFTXAG10 said:

IF Harden were traded to Brooklyn his game would have to change A LOT. Not only are you sharing the rock with Durant but also Kyrie and his handles. This isn't bringing in Paul or Russ. You are joining forces with two guys where you are the outsider. It is not a wild guess but me thinks that will not end well....

The Iko article on The Athletic is interesting. Sounds like nothing is really FINAL, and the amount of ties and projects Harden has going on in Houston are quite bountiful. It also tells us pretty much what we already knew, Tilman is going to run this franchise into the ground....


Going to disagree with you and say that it can definitely work.
Found Kevin Durant's sock on TexAgs, you are welcome guys
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We got a funny guy huh
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