The people who said at least wait to the trade deadline were right. Minnesota didn't have a better offer once Golden state thought things through and refused to give up Klay. This looks like a major fail right now with Love really getting exposed as a pretender. I'd much rather have wiggins and bennett right now than love.

Interesting bump. This has played out just like everybody said it would.1) Love's defense has been every bit as awful as expected and 2) The Cavs are getting plenty of scoring from Bron, Kyrie, and the rest of the team.

The unexpected things have been 1) how poorly Love's fit in with the Cav's O. I mean he's not terrible, but he's not close to superstar, and you trade away the #1 overall (who is ultra athletic and has limitless potential) + a first rounder for a superstar and 2) just how quickly Wiggins was able to come into his own on offense. Yea he doesn't have Love's broad offensive skill set, but he's averaging 16.3 pts on 43.6/32.2/75.3. That's pretty damn good for a rookie. When you then consider what Wiggins brings to the table on D, it's pretty obvious the Cavs made an awful decision.

The Cavs are rolling right now, but playoff ball, when the other team has a chance to focus, is so different (as opposed to the whirlwind regular season full of back-to-backs, long road trips, etc). I just can't see them winning it all with Mozgov, Tristan Thompson, and Kevin love as their front court. That's just too weak. Whoever comes out of the West is going to demolish them.

Or maybe Loves range/presence is creating space and scoring opportunities.

Whether or not y'all want to admit it. This was a good move for the Cavs. They're the best team in the East right now with the playoffs just around the corner. They want to win now, which is why Love is there

They weren't one of the best in the east until they added more pieces and another big. Love sits out a lot of 4th quarters. He seems to not fit with the team. You serious? I think the Cavs should have waited, and had they, Wiggins would still be a Cav OR they go after a better big than Love.

Cavs made a mistake, but it looks like they've rectified some of that with other trades.

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They weren't one of the best in the east until they added more pieces and another big. Love sits out a lot of 4th quarters. He seems to not fit with the team. You serious? I think the Cavs should have waited, and had they, Wiggins would still be a Cav OR they go after a better big than Love.

Cavs made a mistake, but it looks like they've rectified some of that with other trades.

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Ummm... They had Anderson Verejao go out for the season, that's why they needed help. Also, this was a team thrown together sorta like the Heat. They also played unimpressively till the 2nd half of that first season. Then what? A total of 4 Finals appearances. This Cavs team reminds me of the Heat in a sense that they too had to learn how to play together. Just like the Heat they are dialed in now in the 2nd phase.

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Or maybe Loves range/presence is creating space and scoring opportunities.

Whether or not y'all want to admit it. This was a good move for the Cavs. They're the best team in the East right now with the playoffs just around the corner. They want to win now, which is why Love is there

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They could "win now" with Wiggins. He isn't some 4 year project; he's already playing badass ball. Yea he's not quite as strong on O, but he's actually a 2 way player.

They'd be a better team with him.

They wanted a Big and needed one though

They did need a big, but if they hadn't made that trade, they would have had some assets to move for one. I mean hell they did the Love trade and were still able to grab Mozgov. Don't get me wrong, Love isn't useless, but he hasn't been worth the #1 overall + a first round pick.

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They did need a big, but if they hadn't made that trade, they would have had some assets to move for one. I mean hell they did the Love trade and were still able to grab Mozgov. Don't get me wrong, Love isn't useless, but he hasn't been worth the #1 overall + a first round pick.

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Thanks for making my point but better.

So you think today they would be better with Mozgov and Wiggins? I only think so long term. This would only leave them with Mozgov for a big. Granted there was no way of knowing this when the trades were going down for Love.

I think they're in a good situation right now. I also don't think he's a "bust" or was overrated going into this season. He's on a team that has what's considered the best player on the planet and one of the best young players in the game. Something had to give. Statistically he's where he needs to be for the season

This is all on Lebron..he's the coach (calling the plays) and the gm (never mentioned Wiggins in his letter and called Love to get him to come to cleveland)..we'll see how it all works out in a couple months...

However the series turns out, I think we can lay to rest the idea that Love has anything to do with how good the Cavs are.

I think Love has a real interesting decision coming up if the Cavs take the series or at least go 7 games.


He can go back, and hope to be a contributor on a championship team, but is a 3rd star, at best, on the team. If the team doesn't make it back to the title game or win it, that's not real good for him, and if the Cavs do win it, he was just a replaceable part.

He can go somewhere else, but his odds of playing for any type of championship team is pretty small, but he might go back to being the Man like in Minnesota.

Weren't there even threads on texags that Love was the best PF in the game?

Or rhe cavs can use the money on marc gasol or la

Well I never commented back then but personally thought it was a horrible trade, way too much to give up and I might go on record saying it is one of the worst ever trades in nba history depending on how wiggins turns out, if love stays, and the next minn first rounder. I could easily see it as becoming the worst ever.

I'm wondering the likelihood that both Kyrie and KLove will be healthy for next year's playoffs, assuming Love re-signs with team.

Neither one has exactly been a picture of availability throughout their years.

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The thing I wonder though is if they are just creating the problems LeBron left in Miami. No bench no young legs to eat up minutes.

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Good job nailing this.

I think I just heard that cavs are the favorites in Vegas for next year.

At this point they are, by far, the most likely team to return to finals, and I don't think love has to return for that to be true. But he would have been a great asset this year, especially once Irving went down.

Love opts out, and "Internet reports" are that LBJ isn't that interested in him returning.


I know I did some costly things in the name of love, but giving up Wiggins for one year of Love is much costlier.