Fun hypothetical

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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I heard this on the TSS podcast.

You can go back in time to establish soccer as the national pastime. When in American history do you go and what is one decision you make to help make it our game?
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Late 1930s/early 1940s

Beat the formation of the NBA, replace the spread of basketball courts in parks with futsol courts. Beat the integration of the NFL/MLB.
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Sometime in the early 1700s. Convince those turds in England to give full parliamentary representation to the colonies.

There's a good reason that the US, Canada, and Australia all tried real hard to make their own versions of the sport… gotta fix that.
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What version of soccer did these countries create that isn't soccer?
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MookieBlaylock said:

What version of soccer did these countries create that isn't soccer?
gridiron, nancy-ball (CFL), and Aussie rules.
MookieBlaylock
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Aussie Rules is based on Gaelic Football

Gridiron is Rugby but fun

deadbq03
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You're right but it's also true that Rutgers (and others) claim that their soccer games (based solely on English FA rules) were the origins of college football.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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I'm thinking we go back to the industrialization era of the 1840s and push the factory owners to create teams. It worked for Britain and I think it could work for us. Give it time to grow and then hopefully use the Mexican American War, Civil War, and Reconstruction Era to spread it.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

I'm thinking we go back to the industrialization era of the 1840s and push the factory owners to create teams. It worked for Britain and I think it could work for us. Give it time to grow and then hopefully use the Mexican American War, Civil War, and Reconstruction Era to spread it.
Football Association first rules did not* exist then and the Highway Act of 1835 in essence **** down playing mob ball with 40 shilling fines.

https://sqaf.club/original-rules-of-football/

" The playing of football on public highways,[5] with a maximum penalty of forty shillings.[n 5]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_Act_1835

The earliest formalized FA rules was 1863 https://sqaf.club/original-rules-of-football/

There were many forms of mob ball with some more regulated version like rugby or soccer with the notable Dartmouth Old Division game starting in the 1830s and codified in 1871 with first written rules.

Rutgers v. Princeton on November 6, 1869 used rules proposed by Rutgers captain William Leggett based on the first set of Football Association rules I linked above. That was more soccer than not probably and the inflection point where the FA rules were interpreted as a contact oriented game without throwing or carrying the ball.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football History section

A rematch at Princeton used Princeton rules which included a free kick if the ball was caught with hands which is a feature of the original FA rules but did not survive into the game Americans call soccer but resembles the fair catch in today's American football (same Wikipedia article.)

So around 1860 to 1880 is probably the simplest way to change the story arc.

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Facts are no fun In hypotheticals
Rudyjax
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Someone should invent a time machine and change the course of the United States so we'd be winning/competing for every World Cup.

And I guess end slavery. And stop Hitler.

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