******BTHO Florida State******

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Aldo the Apache
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Frustration is one thing but we've got people calling for coaches to be fired after losing 2-1 to the #7 team in the country (who've also been to the Final Four the past three years in a row).

If you know soccer, you know it's a lot like basketball in that it's about a team getting hot at the right time. It is a LONG season and this loss will help down the line.

But sure, write them off as average/stagnant after the first game if it makes you feel better!
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What did Florida St. do to take Maile Hayes out of her game?
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Surprised Maile Hayes did not get more shots at goal tonight. She was the Aggie's leader in goals and points for 2021 and 2022.
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4 players on that roster that played in the World Cup.

#3 recruiting class in the nation that included (arguably) the best forward in the nation.

4 transfers that have started 144 games

63% of their offense production returns.

ACC GK of the year returns.

3 consecutive College Cups.

Our tactical game plan was great - especially defensively. We were dangerous on the counter and had 3 really close missed chances (Pante x 2, Wilkinson).

Most encouraged I've been after the first game in a long, long time.

Some of you people know absolutely nothing about the game of soccer…
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Rambotx said:

Surprised Maile Hayes did not get more shots at goal tonight. She was the Aggie's leader in goals and points for 2021 and 2022.


She played well tonight but she's in a different role this year.
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THANK YOU!
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We play Washington St. next on Sunday. They are currently playing Eastern Washington in their opener.

Washington St. has out shot them 19-2 but currently trails 1-0 with 29 minutes to play.

Washington St. made the College Cup in 2019 and the NCAA tourney in 2021 winning a round, but went 8-7-4 last year missing the NCAA tourney.
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And just as I post that Washington St. ties it up 1-1.

28 minutes to play.
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And another goal a minute later.

2-1 Washington St. now leads with 27 minutes to play.
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Really tough result for A&M tonight after that effort against an elite FSU squad. A missed opportunity and we deserved the tie, but unfortunately the match is 90 minutes long, not 86. In the early stages of the match FSU looked far superior in every aspect of the game, but then A&M finally made a few substitutions and adjustments in the midfield and the game changed for us. A&M had a good game plan tonight, allowing FSU to pass around the back and not get sucked into attacking and opening the field for them to operate. We only engaged when they passed midfield, which resulted in some good counter opportunities. We consistently got the ball out to the wing where McDonald, who had maybe her best game at A&M to date, consistently provided a crossing threat and resulted in a textbook goal from Sammy Smith. We had the momentum through the first 15 minutes of the second half as well and played FSU straight up by winning more 50/50 balls and creating some chances on breakaways. FSU might have the most talented roster in America (with several World Cup participants), so this was quite a feat for A&M to hang with them most of the match.

Wilkinson is very deliberate player but doesn't have a lot of speed and sometimes missed her assignments coming back to help defend, especially at the end of the match when the FSU winning goal was setup by a wide-open player who had plenty of time to set up the long ball to split the defense. Pante was excellent at times, but she's got to be able to finish if A&M is going to have a good season. The misses by her and Wilkinson were huge and should have won the game for us. We are just missing that final touch up top, and if we find it, we could be a good scoring team this season.

The starting lineup, especially in the midfield, was confusing because we don't have the speed or quickness (outside of Hayes) to keep possession away from a team like FSU. When Boeckmann and Smith entered the game, we had a clear upgrade in our ability to keep the ball and move the ball forward to our forwards. Hayes didn't have the impact we'd like to see, and I wonder if her size in the middle of field is tough for her to win balls because she disappeared at times. Maybe switching her back up top might be better when some players return? I'm not sure if Beccera is still injured and Geczik (who was our best player two years ago) is still out (she came in for a few minutes at the end), but we need them in the midfield to give us more possession early in matches. Grace Ivey didn't play tonight, so not sure if she is injured, but she could help us as well as one of our top signees.

The backline was solid at times, but also had some major breakdowns, including the terrible through ball at the end that no one stepped up to intercept. There were some freshman mistakes out there as well, but this is FSU, so expecting a perfect game was not going to happen. I was really impressed with Adysen Armenta, who has very good on ball skill and can split opponents to find the open teammate. She was clearly underrated by the recruiting services, and I see why she is starting as a true freshman. On the other side, Margo is talented, but she had very up and down match. Caldwell had an okay match, but I would have liked to see her tip that deflection over the bar because I thought there was enough time to get to it. Not sure if Bella James is injured but she is a talented freshman as well.

A few others mentioned it as well, but I disagreed with Coach G telling his players to step up from the backline late in the match, because by playing a higher back line the odds are you can probably only lose with a long ball played over the top of the defense, which is exactly what happened. We were exhausted and you only need to run out about 5 minutes on the clock, so it's okay to bunker in behind the ball and make FSU beat you with an elite play of some kind. The counter argument is that maybe we were trying to win the match, but I think our legs were done at that point.

In the end, a loss is a loss, and you don't get anything for it except maybe some confidence going forward. We will need to learn how to finish off matches as well, because that last 10 minutes was brutal as we wilted down the stretch. FSU looked fresher than us and that can't happen at home in the heat. A tie was a win for A&M tonight and would have been huge for RPI late in the season. And this was a match that A&M could have won had they taken their chances. Moreover, statistically it was an even match, outside of more possession by FSU, mostly in their defensive third. However, tonight was certainly encouraging as compared to the last few seasons, and once we get some of our players back and we are at full strength, I think this team can make some noise in the SEC.
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Great post. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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Final: Washington St. 3-1 over Eastern Washington

WSU outshot them 27-4. It was a dangerous game with 30 minutes remaining even though WSU had outshot them mightily.
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Tamuag04 said:

4 players on that roster that played in the World Cup.

#3 recruiting class in the nation that included (arguably) the best forward in the nation.

4 transfers that have started 144 games

63% of their offense production returns.

ACC GK of the year returns.

3 consecutive College Cups.

Our tactical game plan was great - especially defensively. We were dangerous on the counter and had 3 really close missed chances (Pante x 2, Wilkinson).

Most encouraged I've been after the first game in a long, long time.

Some of you people know absolutely nothing about the game of soccer…

Some of the world cup girls just got of the plane. They have hardly practiced as a full team and were playing on the road. This is the worst FSU will look this year. I thought we played ok, definitely not encouraged by giving up a late goal to lose to them by 1 again. Last time we did that we had our worst season ever...
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HiddenAg2 said:

The backline was solid at times, but also had some major breakdowns, including the terrible through ball at the end that no one stepped up to intercept. There were some freshman mistakes out there as well, but this is FSU, so expecting a perfect game was not going to happen. I was really impressed with Adysen Armenta, who has very good on ball skill and can split opponents to find the open teammate. She was clearly underrated by the recruiting services, and I see why she is starting as a true freshman. On the other side, Margo is talented, but she had very up and down match. Caldwell had an okay match, but I would have liked to see her tip that deflection over the bar because I thought there was enough time to get to it. Not sure if Bella James is injured but she is a talented freshman as well.

A few others mentioned it as well, but I disagreed with Coach G telling his players to step up from the backline late in the match, because by playing a higher back line the odds are you can probably only lose with a long ball played over the top of the defense, which is exactly what happened. We were exhausted and you only need to run out about 5 minutes on the clock, so it's okay to bunker in behind the ball and make FSU beat you with an elite play of some kind. The counter argument is that maybe we were trying to win the match, but I think our legs were done at that point.
James is out for year with ACL
Armenta was the best of the 4 defenders today.
As much as G sits during a game, the time he decides to stand up and coach was wrong. Telling the back line to move up when we were tired and not getting any pressure on the ball was ill advised. Being there in person I got a bad feeling a couple minutes before the goal. You could see we were drained and not going after it like we had been. You could see communication in the back was not great as they were trying to move up. Calzada gets too far forward, Margo lets her mark past her, and nobody is on the ball to make a pass difficult. Thought Caldwell made the correct decision to come out, just not quick enough to move her hand over to deflect it.
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Next year we will be really good and even better in two years
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dtk9119 said:

FL state full of transfers and new players and still can't even get a draw against them on your home field in 100 degree heat. This program is in perpetual stagnation. Very disappointing.


I thought this was satire. We can't even beat a top team when it's really hot! The season is over!!
Wannabeanaggie
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I thought the game plan was solid and performance was strong. With a tied match and 10m to play we should have slowed down (but we rushed), moved to a more defensive posture (but we pushed forward) and put some fresh legs on the pitch to prevent the counter that cost us the match. Coaches need to adjust our approach to the situation......that does not appear to happen. A shame to not get the result, but a performance that gives optimism for this season.
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Not enchanted with allowing them half the field to make passes but it worked most of the game.

Good game by our team,though. Would like to see more long balls to McDonald.
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I went to watch the game replay just now and it is not available on the ESPN Watch site.
There were two hydration breaks in the second half which I have not seen before.
James, Rupe and Colvin were not in uniform last night. Geczik had ice on one of her knees during the first half. The FSU player who got injured early in the first half had a big brace on her knee after the game.
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They had 2 in the first half as well. First one was when the girl got injured.
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Tough loss. However, this was an issue last season of giving up goals at the end of games. Florida State may have looked boring to some, to me they were just patient and took advantage of their opportunities. That's just their style. I thought McDonald had her best game since coming to A&M. Great cross and finish by Smith.

Just my opinion, but I don't get Hayes playing attacking mid. She led the team in scoring last season as a forward and received 1st team SEC honors. She is most dangerous up front. I don't see her putting up last years numbers playing in the mid. Calzada should be playing as an outside back. She was great last season pushing the ball up the line with her speed. Playing CB neutralizes her speed and being part of the attack. Margo seems a bit out of position. I believe her natural position is playing CB and that was where she mostly played in the preseason. This would also allow you to put Calzada as an outside back. The combination of Pounds and Leb would have been a better pairing in the holding. I also didn't get putting in Geczik in defense the last 4 minutes when we go down 2-1, that change needed to be made before we went down. I thought the team needed some fresh legs down the stretch. Was Beccerra injured? Hopefully better results Sunday. BTHO Washington State.
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Soccer1 said:

Tough loss. However, this was an issue last season of giving up goals at the end of games. Florida State may have looked boring to some, to me they were just patient and took advantage of their opportunities. That's just their style. I thought McDonald had her best game since coming to A&M. Great cross and finish by Smith.

Just my opinion, but I don't get Hayes playing attacking mid. She led the team in scoring last season as a forward and received 1st team SEC honors. She is most dangerous up front. I don't see her putting up last years numbers playing in the mid. Calzada should be playing as an outside back. She was great last season pushing the ball up the line with her speed. Playing CB neutralizes her speed and being part of the attack. Margo seems a bit out of position. I believe her natural position is playing CB and that was where she mostly played in the preseason. This would also allow you to put Calzada as an outside back. The combination of Pounds and Leb would have been a better pairing in the holding. I also didn't get putting in Geczik in defense the last 4 minutes when we go down 2-1, that change needed to be made before we went down. I thought the team needed some fresh legs down the stretch. Was Beccerra injured? Hopefully better results Sunday. BTHO Washington State.
Completely agree with moving Calzada back to outside back position, where she shined last year. Margo definitely looks more comfortable inside. The midfield is a real issue and Hayes is not in a good position in the middle. She needs to be up top somewhere to attack. I'm really worried about Geczik, we can't afford to lose her again for another season.
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For those of you that wanted to see what happened on the final goal.

https://x.com/fsusoccer/status/1692525769384206683?s=61&t=gHbr93x119TgzPXZscdGJA
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Soccer1 said:

For those of you that wanted to see what happened on the final goal.

https://x.com/fsusoccer/status/1692525769384206683?s=61&t=gHbr93x119TgzPXZscdGJA
Thanks. Very tough to lose a marquis game late on a big mistake. Stuff happens.

FSU has far better players and coaches. The outcome for us was equally respectable and disappointing. Learn and move on.
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Ouch. Replay highlights how ill advised it was to not hunker down in the final 10m vs. playing the high line. I love the desire to win, but against this team a tie was almost that. Live and learn (I hope).
 
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