What an ass beating
Come on. The Bayern domination is not good for viewers outside of the hardcore Bundesliga folks. Not only do Bayern win literally every single year. All of the teams sell on their best players to Bayern which would seen as absurd in most other leagues.Legal Custodian said:
What do you mean the "State of the League"?
Furlock Bones said:Come on. The Bayern domination is not good for viewers outside of the hardcore Bundesliga folks. Not only do Bayern win literally every single year. All of the teams sell on their best players to Bayern which would seen as absurd in most other leagues.Legal Custodian said:
What do you mean the "State of the League"?
deadbq03 said:
Holy crap. Upamecano gives up another penalty and gets sent off again after doing it midweek against Lazio.
Bayern were already getting whipped by relegation contenders Bochum. Now it's 3-1.
They're gonna be 8 points down now. Crazy stuff.
Furlock Bones said:deadbq03 said:
Holy crap. Upamecano gives up another penalty and gets sent off again after doing it midweek against Lazio.
Bayern were already getting whipped by relegation contenders Bochum. Now it's 3-1.
They're gonna be 8 points down now. Crazy stuff.
I think the cracks in the Bayern foundation are finally coming apart. Not going to be able to paper over them with a Bundesliage title.
deadbq03 said:
Sad thing is that Muller is past his prime, but they need to keep him around just to have his leadership/attitude. His press conference after Leverkusen was scathing.
That's a great soapbox, but it's also the 50+1 group that advocates for a lot of other stuff besides ownership configuration. Like when TV and Bundesliga started to move league matches to Tuesdays/Wednesdays. A quick uproar and boycott arose because the fans said these matches are made for the working class people who wish to attend or make weekend trips to matches and they quickly got rid of that idea.deadbq03 said:
I'm sure it's overwhelmingly Bayern. Which is funny because they literally have one finger pointing back at them since 25% of Bayern is owned by Adidas, Allianz, and Audi. And I've gotta think that those corporations pull more than their share when it comes to organizational decisions. Members might own 75%, but it's kinda like US elections - we're hand fed certain candidates based on money and other BS that happens behind the scenes. It's a sham to think that massive organizations such as Bayern (or RM and Barca in La Liga) are truly member controlled. Lots of puppet masters behind the scenes.
The Bayern executive board is almost entirely corporate guys. Dortmund's chairman and vice-chairman are executives for Evonik and Signal Iduna. The guys with corporate money call the shotsโฆ these 50+1 fanatics believe a beautiful myth (reminds me of the student-athlete myth).
And the funny thing about the smaller member owned clubs in Germany is that they're typically ran by the politics of ultra groups who can vote en masse (i.e. Corps block). So while club ownership might appear democratic, it's really not. The loudest voices run the show, and they don't want to be made irrelevant if the 50+1 dies, so they make a big stink about it. Casual fans are frequently held hostage by their antics.
Even funnier is that Leipzig and Leverkusen joined Bayern and Dortmund in donating money to help keep small clubs afloat during the pandemic. Many clubs would be insolvent if it weren't for Leipzig and Leverkusen's "dirty" corporate money.
I'm sympathetic to the notion in Germany that they don't want sovereign owners with human rights abuses (that's the first thing 50+1 supporters bring up), but there are ways to regulate that without having 50+1.
/soapbox
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but I'm Rotenbullen schweine, so what do I know.
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Who really knows, I've seen reports where Kane hates Tuchel and how he's being used too. Plus Musiala is too young to know any different.deadbq03 said:
Wow, even if this isn't true, the fact that such a thing exists is pretty damning:โข Players still behind Thomas Tuchel: Manuel Neuer, Raphaรซl Guerreiro, Jamal Musiala, Leroy Sanรฉ, Harry Kane, Eric Dier
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It makes no sense to me either. Usually teams will get a bump after bringing on an interim just because of the Us vs Them mentality and letting loose a little bit which I think will do this Bayern team wonders. But because this team is so unpredictable this year, we'll probably come out and dominate Leipzig, beat Lazio 2-0 to advance to the quarters, and move within 5 points of Leverkusen after a weird loss for them. Then lose 3 in a row in league play until dominating Dortmund 5-0 to close out March.deadbq03 said:
Zidane would be peak FC Hollywoodโฆ but also a risk, I think.
Speaking of risks, I can't believe they're keeping Tuchel around as a lame duck. I'm gonna make a bold prediction that they have to cut him loose after the Dortmund game in order to ensure a UCL spot. In doing so, I'm probably jinxing myself this weekend, so you're welcome.
deadbq03 said:
Who needs that filthy 1 Billion Euro anyways?
I don't know think a lot of folks realize how much all these random UEFA games happening today matter to their leaguesโฆ the 2 extra spots are based solely on this year's coefficient, not the 5 year aggregate that determine the normal places and pots.Legal Custodian said:
And I think this year we (the Bundesliga) might get a 5th UCL spot guaranteed if things go well in the UCL or Europa competitions the rest of the spring.
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