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Coach Fran Selling Injury Reports for $1,200/yr

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Die Hard Ag
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Byrne forces him to stop...

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/big12/stories/MYSA092807.01D.FBC.Aggies.Franchione.en.34050d6.html

Gig'em and Semper Fi,

DHA

"For those who have fought for it, Freedom has a special meaning that the protected will never know."
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"Privately, Coach told me last night that Earvin (Taylor) and Pierre (Brown) are very steady but with average speed," McKenzie wrote. "Kerry (Franks) has great speed, but (is) inconsistent in receiving."
Nothing quite like ripping your players for 30 pieces of silver.
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wow
boogieman
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Wow.
Die Hard Ag
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This doesn't qualify as "prohibited outside income" under Fran's contract, does it? It would be true justice if he lost out on $8M + for a few $1,200 checks due to breach of contract...

Gig'em and Semper Fi,

DHA

"For those who have fought for it, Freedom has a special meaning that the protected will never know."
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"I knew it was probably going to be controversial," Franchione said. "I certainly didn't mean for it to be that. When I knew you guys were starting to ask around a bit, I thought, 'Maybe we shouldn't do this.'"


Anyone elses brain hurt after these two quotes? If he didn't want it to be controversial, why did he do something he knew would be controversial?
AggieTrav
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hmmmm so maybe teams are getting apart of this somehow and giving themselves inside information.

and ill add in a WOW aswell.
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Anyone elses brain hurt after these two quotes? If he didn't want it to be controversial, why did he do something he knew would be controversial?
Nobody gets bent out of shape over the exhibition season.
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Nothing like winning friends and influencing people.
evermoreAg
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I think this is shocking. I wish some of the lawyers on here would check to see if it is illegal, i.e., using your position as a state employee for private gain. And it doesn't matter a damn what you say you use the money for. Not to mention the potential for gambling abuse. Don't coaches have to attend the anti-gambling seminars that players do?

Sure would like to know the names of the "Confidential 12."

Two observations:

1. Now we know what Mike and Brent were arguing about.
2. Fran's odds of lasting the season just went down.
Die Hard Ag
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, why did he do something he knew would be controversial?


So the greedy $2,000,000 man could make an extra $1,200.


Gig'em and Semper Fi,

DHA

"For those who have fought for it, Freedom has a special meaning that the protected will never know."

[This message has been edited by Die Hard Ag (edited 9/28/2007 1:02a).]
m-walker
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Nothing quite like ripping your players for 30 pieces of silver.


attacked their football performance, not their character
unmade bed
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well if the media found out about it, someone has obviously breached their confidentiality agreement.

I don't really think the fact he was sending out these reports is a big story. What I do find to be a big story, is the fact that these reports were obviously sent to a small select group of guys who were probably Fran's biggest supporters, and it looks like even this group has lost faith if they are running to the media with this stuff now.
rhutton125
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Man, **** Fran..
brotherruss
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omgoodness!!!!!!!!!!
texaggie2009
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What I do find to be a big story, is the fact that these reports were obviously sent to a small select group of guys who were probably Fran's biggest supporters, and it looks like even this group has lost faith if they are running to the media with this stuff now.



I was thinking the same thing...
Aggienk
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This doesn't qualify as "prohibited outside income" under Fran's contract, does it? It would be true justice if he lost out on $8M + for a few $1,200 checks due to breach of contract...

Interesting thought...
unmade bed
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I wish some of the lawyers on here would check to see if it is illegal, i.e., using your position as a state employee for private gain.


hmmm, so do you think it is illegal for coaches to have TV shows where they are paid for their appearances as well?
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What I do find to be a big story, is the fact that these reports were obviously sent to a small select group of guys who were probably Fran's biggest supporters, and it looks like even this group has lost faith if they are running to the media with this stuff now.
The big cigars are eating their young. That's a good thing.
AgFormerlyInIrving
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yikes. don't know what else to say but yikes!
Gigem314
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EightiesBear
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Relax guys. Most of us know now that the secret decoder ring that Fran has he got out of a box of cereal when he was nine. No smoke and mirrors here.

Get off his back.

EightiesBear
evermoreAg
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According to this story, BB didn't know about it. Hints of degradation of institutional control. The really weird part of it is that he could have pulled in a lot more $$s to support his website, give to the little sisters of the poor or whatever, if it had simply been a public subscription that anyone could buy. The whole thing is really, really dumb.

If you are in the spotlight (and paid big bucks to take the heat), you should never do anything you don't want to read about on the front page of the paper.
evermoreAg
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Unmade bed, traditionally that has been a part of the coach's contract.
Jiggedy Jared
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When I knew you guys were starting to ask around a bit, I thought, 'Maybe we shouldn't do this.'"


That's the most troubling part of the whole thing. Firstly, that BB was in the dark about it, and, secondly, that he was OK with doing something as long as he wasn't caught. That's a terrible precedent and message all in one.

I'm no expert on gambling law, but I wouldn't be surprised if gaining this advantage was verging on illegal. I could certainly be wrong, though
Diggity
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greed...for lack of a better word...is good
Jiggedy Jared
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Who was getting the money anyhow? If the athletic department was, how could Byrne not have been aware?
Diggity
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fran was. the article itself states that he was using it to fund coachfran.com. i guess he kicked his buddy back a few hunskey to put the newsletter together.

what a ****ing joke our coach is.
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Unmade bed, traditionally that has been a part of the coach's contract.


i know, which is exactly why I don't see how that part (using your position as a state employee to make a profit) could be illegal.

Now, what would be interesting is whether the injury information he was disclosing violated HIPAA. I know HIPAA makes exceptions for the NCAA and I'm pretty sure all athletes are required to sign some sort of authorization forms, but not sure whether such a form would cover the coach's use of the injury info for the purposes described in the article. Would be interested to see what that compliance officer that posts on the recruiting board says about that.

[This message has been edited by unmade bed (edited 9/28/2007 1:23a).]
Jiggedy Jared
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ahh, I see that now. Eh, yet another reason to not like his coaching style. Chalk it up
IowaAg07
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Yikes. I don't see a problem with it, until someone decides to screw the whole thing and turn over a copy to the media. I don't think it's too different from the six insurance salesmen that would meet every Tuesday and Thursday for lunch at the restaurant I worked at and talk shop (basically exchange ideas and information). It's all fine and dandy until someone in power finds out, then it's... Yikes.
Diggity
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HIPAA just says you can't disclose health records. he is allowed to make more general comments about whether the player will be starting or not.

[This message has been edited by Diggity (edited 9/28/2007 1:26a).]
J. Walter Weatherman
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Man, **** Fran..

Reloadags1998
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Maybe it's because it is 1:30 in the morning, and I'm not thinking straight, but I don't feel this is much of a story at all. I have to agree with unmade bed here though, at least one "insider" has become a turncoat and I think that is the real story.
Diggity
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you're right, i'm sure these type of things happen a lot. i just don't like the idea of this smug ******* putting together a list of injury reports to make an extra 150K or so. if these boosters are so loyal and trustworthy...then why charge anything at all?
 
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