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aggie_devil
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Gigem, I fear that you completely miss the point. You don't have a 9 minute march down the field if you hadn;'t spent the whole game sticking with the running game, even when it wasn't producing instant points... You cannot stick with the running game if the defense isn't keepig it close... You aren't keeping it close if you don't score on your first drive... the score on the first drive doesn't mean anything if Dodge doesn't make that stop...

It's called a game plan. You adjust to the situation rather than doing things just to prove that you can.
Cinco Ranch Aggie
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and for the first time in a while are undefeated on the road (probably 1919 im not sure though).

The Ags were undefeated on the road (including stops at Stanford with Bill Walsh, Austin and Baton Rouge) before the Cotton Bowl in 1992, and the only blemish on the 1994 record was a tie with lowly SMU (might as well have been a loss but still...)
Not Bad At All
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Cinco,

Neither of those teams had to beat a top 10 team on the road.
gopitt
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Man, I haven't wiped the grin off of my face since 2:00 Friday afternoon after a huge victory in Austin and some idiots still aren't satisfied. You won't change these nut cases minds. They wallow in negativity. If you can't enjoy this victory and what this team has done then you have a screw loose. In addition, the great majority of this team is back next year and just about everyone of the skilled positions. Everyone talks about 2007's tough road schedule. The Ags were undefeated on the road this year. They know how to handle the hostile environments.
I think some of these Aggies posting must be transfers from tu.
Keegan99
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Yes, that SWC was so fierce.


Prior to SMU getting the death penalty and Arkansas defecting to the SEC, the SWC was a showcase for great college football. Feel free to adjust the records from 1988-1995 accordingly.

I don't see how anyone can argue the fact that we played 12 games this year and our win total was increased by one as a result.

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Man, I haven't wiped the grin off of my face since 2:00 Friday afternoon after a huge victory in Austin and some idiots still aren't satisfied. You won't change these nut cases minds.


I live in 78702. I can see the damn sip campus from my roof. The sip BS I've had to live with of late has been abundant. I am MORE than elated with our win.

However, Fran dug himself a hell of a hole, and one win doesn't get him all the way out of it. Let's see how we do in the bowl.

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Old Army 83
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He definately has the players respect


so shouldn't we take a cue from them?
Not Bad At All
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Prior to SMU getting the death penalty and Arkansas defecting to the SEC, the SWC was a showcase for great college football.


I agree. A number of those ten win seasons happened after that though, which means you could win 10 games much easier than you could win 10 games in the Big XII, even with an extra game.

I will agree this is fair:

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Feel free to adjust the records from 1988-1995 accordingly.

navy57
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Larry Coker was 59-15 at Miami and just got FIRED for going 6-6. How many 9-3 seasons would it take before tu got tired of Mack Brown? I want results, not excuses. It's not like he's working for minimum wage. If some of you Fran apologists know of a company out there that will pay you lots of money for mediocre results, please email me, I want to go to work there, I'm tired of all these high expectations from my boss.


Larry Coker wasn't fired for the 6-6 record alone. He was fired for having lost control of the team. He's a good guy and was just too darned trusting of the thugs he recruited.

How many 9-3 seasons would it take for tu to get tire of Mack Brown? One. If they lose their bowl game, and the lose next season to OU, Tceh, and A&M. Before the sips made it to the Rose Bowl the first time the whornfans were seething. I've said it before and I'll say it again ... support for MackIII is a mile wide and an inch deep.

Kirk Bohls said something telling in the A A-S the other day which was, that when Fran arrived he had two players whom Mack III had offered. He now has twenty-four.

The team you've been watching all season long is talent-loaded. You watched a brilliantly coached, beautifully-prepared team on T+1 and it wasn't the defending MNC team. Next season it will be all Fran's recruits.

The best is yet to come.

Gig 'Em, Aggies !!
pfulbright
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Old Army '83,

That is exactly the point. We all need to be on board.

Stephen McGee shouldn't be talking to Aggies when he says he is "glad everyone will shut up about Fran".

We can't do anything about sportswriters etc, but AGGIES need to get on board and help.

I don't know when it became ok for Aggies to have the attitude of "I'll wait and see, and IF he does something special, then I'll get on board."

It should be, "I'll get on board and HELP HIM DO SOMETHING SPECIAL" since he is the coach of our team. As long as he is here, I'm on board. The team will not have to defend him or any other part of the team to me--- I'm on board.

We'll have better results if ALL AGGIES WILL DO THE SAME. Leave the negative crap to outsiders.
12th Man
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SpicewoodAg
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I think it's funny how some say this season ended well because of the players, but the prior 3 poor to mediocre seasons were Fran's fault.

I say Fran gets the blame AND the credit, whenever required.

What I'm happy to see is some huge progress this year. I have my reservations about the option heavy offense, but I happen to believe if we had thrown more against tu we would have lost. From what I saw on the TV - the WRs were covered well. The sips worked nonstop for ten days to tighten their pass defense after the KSU debacle. They probably assumed the run defense was no problem.

So our strategy of run the ball and use the clock worked perfectly. And it was especially SATISFYING TO RUN IT DOWN THEIR THROAT. Can you imagine how their defense felt on that last drive? They knew it was going to be Goodson, Lane, McGee, repeat three times, and they couldn't stop it!

Fran stuck to Torbush too long. But he was loyal to an assistant that performed for him before. Fran needs a coaching staff that doesn't turnover constantly like RCs did. But Fran eventually did make a change - and he had the courage to go with a guy that instantly generated flak. Hey I was a skeptic about Darnell too. But Darnell said that playing defense well requires attitude. And our D had attitude all year. I figure that our defensive offsides calls against tu were due to the defense's attitude - they wanted to attack and play aggressive which they did. I don't care if Heard got flagged. We need some swagger and "no fear" attitude. Our DBs got burned like all DBs do occasionally - but they came back repeatedly to make plays.

I'm not sure why - but I bet we throw more next year. They'll let McGee show us more with his arm. Morrow, Franks, Tellus, etc. will be active next year. And we'll have new guys coming in.

billydean05
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I was a Fran basher and was not at all happy with him continually making bad decisions in all of our big games. This being said, everyone should give this man some props. We came in with a good game plan and stuck to it the entire game. Fran needed a signature win and finally (just in time) got one. This win is big. IT could and should propel us into the bowl game and hopefully will be continued into next year. We finally figured out the teams strength running the damn football and stuck with it, stayed close, went into a hostile environment against a very good team, and came away with a w.
Dr. Mephisto
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I would not be surprised to hear (quietly) that McGee has shoulder or arm surgery in the off season.

I think there's some stuff the fans and media do not know, and I'm fine with that if it makes this team roll.

This team has more chemistry that any team we've had in years.

God bless 'em all.

I love the fight.

I love the grit.

I love McGee's attitude, which is where the team gets a lot of it.


Keep fightin boys! There's a lot of Ags out here that don't mouth first.








Oh, and bring back Bonfire.
Davy_Crockett
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Not Bad At All
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TG,

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Reminds me of when JOHN MACKOVIC brought his horns to Kyle Field in 1995 and knocked off the Aggies to end the last winning streak A&M had in the series.


Several points:

1. That team was not the defending national champs.

2. That was not a top 10 team in 1995.

3. RC was not the coach.

4. I know you are really hurt not to be able to potbang about a loss. But what are you trying to accomplish. Why not support this coach and team?

You do not judge a coach based on one game.

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This was his window of opportunity with all of the the toughest competition with inexperienced QBs coming to Kyle Field. This season was Franchione’s window of opportunity to win the Big XII and he blew it.


Those teams were more inexperienced than us?

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Yet another season wasted on this misfitted yank.


Translation, you will potbang any season that does not result in a MNC.

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He will lose 6 games next year.


That si tough guy internet speak. If you really believe that, go to Vegas before the season starts next year and wager on it.

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I would fire his ass today without any hesitation what so ever.


You would fire a 9-3 coach who is rebuilding a program, and just finished the regular season by beating a top 10 team (and defending NC team) on the road. You are an idiot.

The opinion of Stephen McGee, Bucky, and BB is greater and more valuable than that of TGCGT.

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Katherine
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Not Bad At All
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Nice first troll post.

Katherine Brown, your dad's team played the following in case you forgot:

North Texas
Rice
Sam Houston State

After the Alabama comment, I am beginning to think you are Phylis from the Paul Finebaum show. I doubt Fran or any other Aggies (like myself) care what you think about him leaving Alabama.

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Katherine
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jkcpow
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Don't worry pfulbright.

Fran is the man. The rest is commentary.

Bring back bonfire.
Not Bad At All
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Especially when you register for an account AFTER he beats the sips with the sole purpose to ***** about him.
Katherine
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Not Bad At All
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Katherine,

So Stephen McGee is wrong and you are right?

Thanks, but I will take McGee, Bucky, and BB's word over yours.
Katherine
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Not Bad At All
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I don't care what Stephen McGee may say.


And yet you think we should care what you say!

Don't forget to register for your Ag tag.


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gopitt
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"I don't care what Stephen McGee may say."

That tells us about as much about Katherine as we really need to know.

Davy_Crockett
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Katherine
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Unless y'all have been living under a rock for the past few years, you should know how Fran left Alabama, how he promised he wasn't going to leave, and any reports of the sort were "idiotic", and he left without having the balls to face his players and tell them he was leaving.

Come on. If you think that's in any way not classy, you're just kidding yourself.
texasaggies987
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Ive been on the Fran wagon this entire year... Questioned him a lot after the OU loss, then jumped off after the Nebraska collapse. Which I shouldnt have because Fran had nothing to do with the Tech and Nebraska loss. He put our team in the position to win and the other teams just happen to come out on top with the W. The OU loss was definitely on his shoulders, but we all make mistakes. He just beat TU and Im back on the wagon for good! Lets BTHO the bowl opponent and finish the season strong ranked in the top 20!!!!!!!!
cs69ag
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Katherine,
Bama told Fran if he got on the plane to go to
A&M, to never set foot in Bama again...there were death threats....he was fearful for his family....they lied to him about the severity of their violations and how bad the probation would be...they promised facility improvements, and had not turned one spade of dirt before he left....Bama got what they deserved....the problem with coaching Bama is you have to live there!
Gigem314
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Gigem,

With all due respect to you and your Playstation 2 coaching abilities, we won the game by dominating the trenches, wearing down the horn defense, and limiting their offensive possessions.

I don't know if Playstation 2 allows you to factor in those factors.

Only on TexAgs can you beat a top 10 team on the road and find a yahoo *****ing about the coaching.

Hold up there! What's with all this "Playstation 2" crap?? There's no need for classless jabs like that. Like you're such an expert. How can you say we won the game by wearing down the 'horns defense and not mention that it was OUR defense that made some VERY key plays.

How many times do I have to say that I'm ONLY BEING HONEST ABOUT MY CONCERNS. Apparently it's not ok to have those on here. Some of you need to calm down.

You're acting like I'm running Fran's name through the mud. When I'm just simply saying that I was concerned going into that final drive. Were any of you NOT concerned about our offensive production after t.u. scored to go up 7-6??

We had a few potential scoring drives that stalled. I'm saying that I don't quite understand why we didn't try a few more passing plays down the field. - t.u.'s secondary was their weakest link. I'M NOT SAYING FRAN'S COACHING SUCKS.

Even McGee himself said he thought they'd be throwing more...but didn't. I'm curious as to why we didn't diversify our play-calling at times.

But go ahead and mock me for having an opinion. You've got to be blind if you didn't see some of the missed opportunities we had out there. I just think there's room for improvement...apparently that's wrong.




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Not Bad At All
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TGCGT,

I see I got under your skin. Oh well...your inflated sense of self-worth is over the top. I'm still unsure what you are trying to accomplish with your constant *****ing, other than to defend the line in the sand you drew even if it means falling on your sword.

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Without Vince Young that defending MNC rhetoric doesn’t carry much weight with me this year and it apparently doesn’t carry much weight in Manhattan, Kansas either.


"with you" being the key word. Everyone else realizes we just beat a top 10 team on the road.

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Texas was ranked 11th.


10th in the coaches poll.

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Never said anything about expecting to win a MNC this year but if making things up (lying) makes you feel better about Franny then you just keep doing what you have to do.


lying? Do you forget blaming Fran for every loss this year?

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Those whose opinions you do or do not value is of no interest to me. I’m just here to express mine like everyone else and really don’t give a flip whether you agee or not.


Good, then you can disagree with McGee, Bucky, and BB. On the other hand I will agree with them.

Tell me again, what you are trying to accomplish?
Not Bad At All
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Hold up there! What's with all this "Playstation 2" crap?? There's no need for classless jabs like that. Like you're such an expert. How can you say we won the game by wearing down the 'horns defense and not mention that it was OUR defense that made some VERY key plays.


Again, you display your lack of understanding which is what prompted the PS2 remark. If we did not pound the ball all day at them, do you think that we could have crammed the ball down their throat at the end?

Yes our defense played well, I have given them tons fo credit. But even Darnell will tell you that winning TOP and limiting the opposing teams touches (especially when they average over 39 ponts/game) was a huge benefit.

Even Chizik said he felt we wore down their defense and they got tired.

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How many times do I have to say that I'm ONLY BEING HONEST ABOUT MY CONCERNS. Apparently it's not ok to have those on here. Some of you need to calm down.


You were using not passing enough in a game where we beat a top 10 team on the road as justification for your opinion that Fran has not demonstrated he is a good coach. Am I wrong about this?

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Even McGee himself said he thought they'd be throwing more...but didn't. I'm curious as to why we didn't diversify our play-calling at times.


McGee said he "thought" we would, not that we should have. Read the rest of McGee's quote and he tells you exactly why we didn't throw more.

Here is what I am saying to you: We won a big game this week. You have been critical of Fran and on his ass after every loss. Now give him some credit! (and not just a "yeah, but..."
Davy_Crockett
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TGCGT,

I see I got under your skin.

In whatever imaginary world you are living in perhaps.

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Tell me again, what you are trying to accomplish?


I did not realize that I was supposed to be trying to accomplish something on here--other than express my opinion as I previously stated.

Perhaps message boards serve a greater purpose in your imaginary world.

weeza
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we gripe, vent and question because we care


geno: The difference in this team and the TAMU teams from the last 3 years is striking. These kids believe in Fran's plan.

Personal attacks deleted. -- Staff]

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usmcaggie
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Paging TGCGT, paging TGCGT, another internet message is arriving.

It says: go.pound.sand
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