can't touch it before it travels 10 yards????

Ball must travel 10 yards down field.

The ball has to travel ten yards before the kicking team can touch it.

The receiveing team can touch it any time after it comes off the tee.

The receiving team must stay ten yards away until the ball is kicked.

good to see that we have multiple answers...
if the rule is that the kicking team can't touch it until it's travelled 10 yards, i'm wondering why no team has ever kicked the ball such that it basically falls off of the t, and surround it while time runs off of the clock. the ball is live until someone has possession of it and is down, right?

To add the finishing touches on Raptors explanation. Once the Receiving team touches the ball it is a live ball and fair game for the kicking team, even if prior to 10 yards.

wrestler,

not a terribly bad idea

Someone please confirm. But I believe the Ref will blow the ball as dead as soon as it stops rolling and there is no attempt by the receiving team to cover.

[This message has been edited by Sheik (edited 11/10/2006 12:07p).]

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But I believe the Ref will blow the ball as dead as soon as it stops rolling and there is no attempt by the receiving team to cover

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I think thats for punts...

Kickoffs are live balls the second they go past 10 yards, so anybody can recover it

i'll look up the rules later today. i'm thinking that if kicking team huddles around the ball, and clock is ticking, at some point someone from the receiving team has to try to get in and pick it up. it would be tough to break out of the scrum and run with it....

But that doesn't answer the question....is the play called dead if the ball rolls to a stop before 10 yards and the kicking team doesn't make an effort to retrieve it?

i would imagine they'd blow it dead after it stops rolling and hasn't gone 10 yards - assuming the receiving team isn't making an effort to get it.

by the way, this wouldn't have been relevant before the new rule which starts clock as soon as it's kicked...

When a free kick (kickoff), scrimmage kick, or any other loose ball stops moving and there is no attempt to secure it, the ball is blown dead.

Check page FR-74.

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/2006/2006_football_rules.pdf



[This message has been edited by Bob the Enzyte Guy (edited 11/10/2006 12:21p).]

I just saw that...there's one more relevant rule. If it comes to rest before receiving teams restraning line (10 yards) it becomes the receiving teams ball where it comes to rest...

so, if there are 3 seconds left, and you don't want to take a chance on a return of any kind, this works. it's no penalty, and clock would run under new rules until ref blows ball dead. game over, right???

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I think thats for punts...

Kickoffs are live balls the second they go past 10 yards, so anybody can recover it

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Lestat, He's right. He was referring to if the ball doesn't go 10 yards. In that case, it is ruled just like a punt.

Rule 4, Section 1, Article 3-f: A live ball becomes dead and an offical shall sound his whistle or declare it dead when a free kick, scrimage kick, or any other loose ball comes to rest and no player attepts to secure it.
p. FR-78
http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/2006/2006_football_rules.pdf
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hey mutual....how much time do you think would elapse if you kicked from the t (clock starts), the ball rolls two or three yards, the team starts to surround it, and the ref determines that no one on receiving team is going to try to pick it up? i'm guessing 4 to 5 seconds...

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so, if there are 3 seconds left, and you don't want to take a chance on a return of any kind, this works. it's no penalty, and clock would run under new rules until ref blows ball dead. game over, right???

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Not if it's halftime.

agsroll scores.