Anybody know who has the fastest time and what he ran?

Darrel Green of the Redskins ran a 4.25

Prior to his hip injury, Bo reportedly ran a 4.18 40 yard dash, one of the fastest NFL 40 times ever, regardless of position. I am not sure this is documented though.

Yeah, I figured it was maybe in the mid 4.2's. Somebody was telling me the cowboys had someone a while back that ran a 4 flat, which I couldnt believe...

Bo

fastest at the combine i THINK was Joey Galloway.

Last season I was watching a UTEP game and the annoucers said that one of the UTEP receivers ran a 4.18.

i thought Deon Sanders had a 4.1_
isn't that what t.v. announcers always kept saying about his speed.
darrell green was the fastest man in the league for a number of years.

I used to run a 4.9 in highschool.

Man I could fly!

If it wasn't an electronic time I wouldn't believe it. I don't think anything under 4.2 is legitimate.

What about JaWarren Hooker?

The Cowboys had some KR/WR 2-3 years ago that I think had the fastest time on record. I think it was around 4.2 or just under.

They talked about it during that HBO series they did on the Cowboys training camp during when the guy was a rookie. They kept talking about how awesome he would be if he could play.

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Last season I was watching a UTEP game and the annoucers said that one of the UTEP receivers ran a 4.18

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I don't put ANY stock in college or high school 40 times, and even less than that when it is said by a college football announcer announcing a utep game.

I remember hearing stories of how dwayne goins ran a 4.18 for A&M.

40 times are so overblown.

d'angelo hall is rumored to have posi-tracked a 4.19 while at va tech.

anything under a 4.2 is olympic sprinter speed...I doubt any of those times are legit

Dieon Sanders ran a 4.1 at the NFL combine... Bo Jackson also ran in the 4.1's prior to his injury..

J Lane ran a 1.2...when the whistle blew, he stared down the stopwatch and it was afraid to start until he was about 30 yards away.

actually, there is a lot of debate about that; most NFL 40's are mistimed, and I am not sure how consistent they are.

In olympic sprinter terms, I once saw an analysis that on a fast track with no wind from blocks, the fastest 40 ever run by any human being was in the 4.4 range, making all manner of 'football' reported 40's obviously irrelevant.

I dont recall the details of the differences in football v. olympic but the gist of the study was that all football times are BS and are usually not repeatable or consistent.

Assuming good automated timing equipment, back to back runs same day are really what would tell you. Also, frankly, .2 seconds is REAL easy to lose with any mistep and .1 is in within the normal variance most often.

That is why you have to look at film and watch football speed, because 40 times are very rough.

Deion supposedly ran a 4.19 at FSU. His combine run was like 4.28, something like that. At that point, Prime just put his warm up suit back on and sat in the stands.

Ben Johnson ran a 9.79- 100, 6.37-60, 5.52-50, and a 4.38-40, when he set the record. I understand it does not stand as the record. But I doubt that many football players could out run him in the 40.

No times listed, but here is this:

http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=9573
The Top 50 Fastest recorded 40-yard dashes of All-Time (under 4.3 seconds on a grass or artificial turf surface)

1. Ben Johnson*
2. Darrell Green
3. Renaldo Nehemiah
4. Johnny Lam Jones
5. Bullet Bob Hayes*
6. Carl Lewis
7. Maurice Green*
8. Bruny Surin
9. Tim Montgomery*
10. Joey Galloway
11. Lee McRae*
12. Leroy Burrell*
13. Dennis Mitchell*
14. John Drummond*
15. Curtis Dickey
16. Alexander Wright
17. André Action Jackson
18. Calvin Smith*
19. Donte Stallworth
20. Phillip Epps
21. Ron Brown
22. James Jett
23. Michael Bennett
24. Raghib Rocket Ismail
25. Deion Sanders
26. Willie Gault
27. Laveranues Coles
28. Bo Jackson
29. Houston McTear*
30. Sam Graddy
31. Stanley Floyd*
32. Herschel Walker
33. Calvin Smith
34. Andre Cason*
35. Tim Harden*
36. John Capel
37. Mike Marsh*
38. Randy Moss
39. James Trapp
40. Cliff Branch
41. Emmit King
42. James Sanford
43. Mel Lattany
44. Rod Woodson
45. Brian Lewis
46. Henry Neal
47. Brian Cooper
48. Michael Green
49. Marvin Harrison
50. Brett Perriman

If you examine Johnson's times, notice how much faster he ran the last 60 than the 1st 60. That is the difference between him and the football players. The first 40 is not what made him world class in the 100. Reggie's combine 40 time was faster than Johnson's 4.38. .

For soem reason I have the name Darrell Green stuck in my head when thinking about 40 times. I'm pretty sure he had the record for a while at soemthing like 4.18....Deion at 4.19...Dante Stallowrth ran a 4.21 I believe. Michael Bennet was an olympic qualifier for running and I believe his 40 time was somewhere in the high 4.1, low 4.2 range as well... There's some Dallas receiver that claims to run a 4.19, but honestly you can't trust any of these times....I'd say Darrell Green

Ben Johnson was known for years as the fastest man out of the blocks. His 4.38 is actually 44 yards...not 40. It wasnt until Seoul that he was known as a middle and end runner. In fact, Carl Lewis always said that Ben was only good out of the blocks. The thing about that race that is amazing is that he stopped driving his arms at 80 meters and coasted thru the rest of the race with his hand in the air and staring down Carl Lewis at 94 meters.

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17. André Action Jackson

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Who was this????

article from another board on the subject

Forty times are bogus in the NFL=20
April 17, 2001=20
BY CLARK JUDGE
FOXSports.com =20
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There is something that makes no sense to me, and, for once, it doesn't =
involve Mark Cuban. No, it's what I'm hearing about Michael Vick, the =
first choice in this weekend's draft. The word starting to make the =
rounds on the Virginia Tech quarterback is that he can run the 40 in =
less than 4.3 seconds.

I never saw Vick run a 40, and I wasn't at his workout at Virginia Tech. =
But one thing I can guarantee is this: Vick cannot run the 40 in under =
4.3 seconds. Heck, he can't run it under 4.4, either.

That's not a knock on Vick. It's a knock on an NFL practice that is =
absolutely, positively out of whack. I'm talking about 40-yard dash =
times. They're the standard by which draft-eligible players are =
measured, and they're as reliable as UFO sightings.

Yet when the NFL begins its march of draftees on Saturday you're going =
to hear how one running back ran a 4.32, a wide receiver peeled off a =
4.34 or some 350-pound lummox breezed through a 4.85. It makes for good =
copy. But so did Paul Bunyan.

"The only way to get a true 40-yard dash time is to get electronic =
timing where a man breaks a wire when he leaves the starting gate," said =
Buffalo's vice president in charge of player personnel, Dwight Adams. =
"The 40 is a common denominator in football, but it's blown way out of =
proportion. It's physically impossible to run a 4.2 and, probably, a =
4.3."

Don't tell that to the guys holding stopwatches. I remember when Vance =
Johnson, then a wide receiver at the University of Arizona, ran the 40 =
in 4.19 seconds. At least that's what I was told. I guess Denver was, =
too, because the Broncos made him their second-round draft pick in 1985.

I also remember when Laveranues Coles, then a wide receiver at Florida =
State, was supposed to have run a 4.16. Nobody said anything about it =
being wind-aided, but it would have taken Hurricane Andrew to push him =
to a finish like that. The Jets media guide has him clocked at 4.29 last =
year, and there was no wind advisory there, either.

The NFL scouting combine has been using electronic timing since 1990, =
but that's one year after Deion Sanders set the standard against which =
all others are measured. Sanders ran a 4.29 in Prime Time, and nobody =
has beaten the mark since.

"You've got to take into consideration that most of these times are done =
with stopwatches," said San Diego State's Rahn Sheffield, coach of the =
women's track and field squad and a former track star himself. "A 4.2 =
really translates to a 4.4. When you hand time (dashes) it opens up room =
for human error. So when a Marshall Faulk runs a 4.33, it really equates =
to a 4.5."

All of which comes as no news to Adams, who for years has laughed off =
40-yard dashes and vertical jumps and long jumps as insignificant =
measures of a football prospect's abilities. He's more interested in =
production, which makes a lot of sense to me . and anyone else who =
believes stopwatches weren't made for football.

Remember when Jerry Rice emerged from Mississippi Valley State in 1985? =
He was supposed to be too slow. Same with USC running back Marcus Allen. =
Yeah, well, I never saw a defensive back who could catch Rice from =
behind until he tore up his knee, and Allen's a lock for the Hall of =
Fame.

O.J. Simpson might have been the fastest back to play the game. Go ahead =
and make a case for Bo Jackson. Maybe Herschel Walker, too. But Simpson =
ran a leg on Southern Cal's 440-yard relay team, one that set a world =
record, and if he were in this year's draft he'd be the fastest running =
back by far; faster than Big-10 sprint champion Michael Bennett. Faster =
than LaDainian Tomlinson. Faster than Deuce McAllister.

Any idea what Simpson ran for a 40? I do. Try 4.5. If you don't believe =
him ask. He said it shortly after he left USC.

"I must've missed something here," said Adams. "I spent some time this =
spring with an Olympic sprinter, and we sat in a stadium together, =
watching guys work out and talking about how the 40-yard dash times were =
way overdone."

The sprinter was Dennis Mitchell. Yeah, THAT Dennis Mitchell. He and =
Adams were together at the University of Florida, and when they heard =
times of some of the guys they watched Mitchell said nothing. He just =
shook his head.

"He was a little shocked," said Adams. "Being a great sprinter, he'd =
never seen so many people running 4.1s and 4.2s. I've talked to (track =
coach) Brooks Johnson and others who say, 'You football people are way =
ahead of us.' Of course, they're facetious."

If Adams had his way, he'd rely more on times for shorter distances -- =
especially for offensive and defensive linemen. Make them stop running =
40s and time them for 10s, maybe 20s. That's all they usually cover, =
anyway.

"I could see it," said Cleveland's vice president in charge of football =
operations, Dwight Clark. "But for running backs, wide receivers and =
defensive backs, I'd like to see the 40 stay."

The Browns don't rely on others' times. They clock prospects themselves, =
and if they don't, they don't have a record of them. The Browns never =
timed anyone at 4.2. They never timed anyone at 4.3, either, though they =
had the University of Arizona's Trung Canidate at 4.32 last year. I =
wasn't at that workout, either, but I know something was wrong.

And here's why. The fastest starter I ever saw was sprinter Ben Johnson, =
and at the 1988 Seoul Olympics track and field's fastest starter ran the =
100 meters in a blistering 9.79 seconds, a time that later was =
disallowed after Johnson tested positive for steroids. Know how fast he =
covered the first 40? It was 4.69 seconds. Forty meters is approximately =
44 yards, which means Johnson ran the first 40 in 4.26.

So, now, let's see if I have this straight: The chemically enhanced =
Johnson, the fastest starter in track history, ran the fastest 100 in =
history . only it was one-tenth of a second slower than Laveranues Coles =
a year ago and three one-hundreths of a second ahead of Sanders' NFL =
combine record.

It makes you wonder. It makes you wonder why anyone believes this stuff.

"I look at guys like Mean Joe Greene and Steve Van Buren and wonder how =
many 4.3s those guys did," said Adams. "I think we've gotten to the =
point where we've overdone the clock workout."

Senior writer Clark Judge covers the NFL for FOXSports.com. Send your =
comments to cjudge@foxsports.com

Gomez - I wasn't talking about Johnson relative to other world class track stars, I was talking about why there might be some football players that could match or beat him over 40 yards. Of course, if the 44 yard thing is true then never mind...

re: the above article, that argument is brought up all the time and it is absolutely meaningless.

Who cares whether the 40 times are scientifically verifiable? If you are comparing all the prospects at the draft on the same track on the same day using the same system to measure their times, then it is a pretty reliable way to decide their relative speed in the 40. It does not matter if one guy's time is exaggerated, because everyone else's is too.

For anyone that wants a good look at Ben Johnson, check out Speed Trap, a book by his old coach, Charlie Francis. I just read it and it was a good, quick read. Poor Ben...

There was a receiver that played for the Cowboys and Raiders that supposedly ran a 4.0 in the mid to late eighties. I was young then so I don't remember all the detail. I think his last name might have been Alexander. Maybe someone can confirm.... He did not amount to much with either team.

Yep, college times are stupid, pro times arent much better; but at least they arent as bad as Virginia Tech, the most notorious inflaters of all stats.

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Alexander WWright?

Leave it to all the dumbass Cowboys fans to think they've had all these players that can run a 4.0-4.1 40.

As opposed to the genius Texans fans?

If Alexander Wright is who you were talking about, he played with Dallas in the nineties. He would be wide open down the sideline and the ball would hit him in the hands and bounce off. They guy had wheels, but he didn't have hands, at all.

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Over the last two decades, a host of players have gone to the NFL Combine boasting of sub-4.3 speed. But only three -- Deion Sanders, Rod Woodson and Brett Perriman -- delivered on those promises.

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