Booboo Davies was a non-reg.

buck has lived on campus twice....one year in FHK and the other year in Dunn.....

What, a Southsider!!!!!!!!

I agree...With the number of non-regs at this school the corps does need to realize that times are changing. I had a discussion with a junior member of the corp in one of my classes about this and he was trying to explain to me that if someone was a true redass aggie then he would be in the corps. This is just not true because last time I checked, A&M is not a military university and you can be damn proud of your school and not have to put up with some of the stuff that goes down in the corp. I think Buck being elected Yell is great. The third senior should be a non-reg, the corps can keep the other 4 but there needs to be non-reg representaion

That is what happens when the corps runs a streak of all corps yell boys for a while. When I was a fish we had all corps yell then at the end of my fish year Ricky Wood was elected and everyone in my class was up in arms about how we were going to tell our fish to f*up Ricky. Then the current and outgoing Corps yell boys had a meeting with all the fish soon to be pissheads and told us to lay off. Some didn't and Ricky got messed with for one game and then the conspiring CTs got what they deserved. The other Non Reg elected during my time at A&M was BooBoo Davis. That got bad reaction purely because he wasn't an '02 guy (he entered fall of ’97) and didn't have the grades to be a yell boy. In the end it was stupid because it was the CT's fault for running Scott Rice instead of Zach Coventry (later SBP and one hell of a guy who could have won had he run outside the block), and because Davis was a damn good yell boy. Davis later helped the Corps campaign because he said he felt that you needed to be a CT to be a yell boy.

Cheerleaders, end of the Corps, and women yell boys... I don't think I'll have the same love for A&M if any of the above happens. I went to A&M for the Corps and because I loved the traditions. I think that if we change in the above ways we will lose our uniqueness and be the same as every other school. For me A&M would become what my father-in-laws alma matter is to him, just a place you got your degree from. I guess I might change my mind with age, but I really don't think so.

And for the record I suck at push ups, but I have yet to meet a woman who can out push me.

FYI...Ricky Wood, yell leader 98 and head yell leader 99, non-reg.

What is up with all of the disqualifications? How does someond get "disqualified"?

(and I ssume it is not for cheating or ballot stuffing, etc. - just wondering)

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The push up thing before yell practice is kind of pointless anyhow -- give me someone who can do 12 and let's get on with it. I don't go there to watch some dudes do pushups. That, to me, is not what a yell leader embodies.

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i don't think the fish who posted was referring to the "butt pops" that the junior yell leaders do while the band plays prior to yell... he was talking about just doing pushups in general (which is what many people clump into any form of military lifestyle).

Part of doing pushups or any other form of PT that pushes the body to its limits allows cadets (most commonly fish) to feel like they've persevered through a challenge and earned their place in whatever respect. Could be to earn brass, increased privileges, a higher leadership position etc. In the yell boys case it's more good bull than an actual humbling experience (like a fish) and reminds them that the seniors outrank them.

But since Buck will be a senior you won't have to watch him do pushups regardless. Hope that clears things up.

I'm kind of hoping we don't a female yell leader for awhile because I think it would require some major changes to the yell leader traditions:

1. How long will the administration let the Corps fish throw a woman wearing a white shirt into Fish Pond? I can just see the sexual harassment lawsuits coming here, even if the Yell Leader herself is cool with it. (Since permission doesn't make an act non-hazing, I'm assuming the same rule would apply to sexual harassment)

2. On a related note, how will it look having dozens of 18 year old guys chasing down and tackling a girl after we win? I think you'd be looking at some pretty bad PR if she ever got hurt (much more than if one of the guys got taken out).

3. And the pushups. I do think that's an important part of the Yell Leader tradtion and there are very few girls with the requisite upper body strength. They do exist but will any of those who can carry off this tradition run?

(As a side note, after this last bball season I've become a lot less opposed to the idea of cheerleaders, but I don't want male cheerleaders and I want them to be less important than the Yell Leaders.)

The disqualifications happened for several reasons. http://www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2006/03/31/News/Hailey.41.Candidates.Dropped-1775524.shtml?norewrite200603311116&sourcedomain=www.thebatt.com
however being that this is a battalion article dont believe a word it says

http://www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2006/03/31/News/Hailey.41.Candidates.Dropped-1775524.shtml?norewrite200603311116&sourcedomain=www.thebatt.com
Sorry

i think the dance team is a perfect compromise to not having actual cheerleaders in skirts w/stupid bows in their hair and still showcasing the best of our female talent on campus. gave us some good face time on CBS during the tourney.

i voted for him

" He's not a hard man to track, he leaves dead men where ever he goes."

having known Buck since our fish year in Dunn Hall, I couldnt be happier for him knowing how important Aggie spirit and traditions are to him. he's gonna make the most of this opportunity, and will not disappoint. Congrats Buck!

You can get DQ'd by failing to turn in different papers, going over budget or failing to turn in the correct amount for all your materials, etc.. I believe this is what the majority of people recieved the DQ for last night.

On another note, Buck is one of my good friends and an amazing Aggie. He is truely what this school represents and lives it in his life. He will do an outstanding job at yell next year.

I'm disappointed if the Corps really did get its panties in a knot over a NR elected as yell leader. That's really too bad and some posters are right, they need to get over it. I was in the Corps when Ronnie McDonald (I think that's his name, and African American NR) was elected and I don't remember hearing alot of negative talk about it. I say this b/c I was in a company in the corps from 89-93 that had 1-2 yell leaders elected every year.

As far as women YLs, its gonna happen. I don't think its that big of a deal. The person is not that important, its the tradition they represent that is. With the exception of the end of the game chases, I don't know what else would have to be modified. The only reason its all male is b/c A&M was all male once and didn't have anybody else to choose from.

Corps block voting is no secret at A&M but today's Corps needs to wise up and quit braggin about it b/c the day will come when other student body organizations figure out how to do it too, and then the Corps influence will start to wane.

I love the Corps, but if you act like knuckleheads, you get what you get.

Yep there has been at least 2 in recent history, Ricky Wood and BooBoo .. so this will make 3, no big deal considering that non-regs outnumber Corps now 20:1.

I wasn't too sure about "Buck" (aka Chris Buckner) but after I saw him at his 24 hour Yell, I think he won a lot of people over. Its gonna be weird, I'll admit that, but I'd rather him win, than a woman. Sorry Ladies.

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And that's exactly what we're gonna do to 'em Aggies!

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I was there last night, and did not hear anyone shouting they were going to mess buck up; however, I did hear people talking about it, so it probably happened. On the other side of the coin, there were non-regs running up to C.T.'s telling them how much the Corps sucks, etc.

Keep it in perspective, it's an emotional night for both sides and words are going to be said by individuals in opposing campaigns. The two repeat Senior Yell Leaders will make sure the fish know there will be retribution if they try to hurt buck, but that doesn't stop that one dumbazz from making the entire Corps look bad. As people have said, in the end we're all Aggies, and if Buck is the guy all of you say he is, the sky isn't falling. The students made their choice.

"Davis later helped the Corps campaign because he said he felt that you needed to be a CT to be a yell boy."

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why try and convince a coprs guy when he is forced to vote for his own anyway? It wasn't a knock against you, but wouldn't they rather spend their attention on people who will actually vote for him?

Henry, that is true. I talked to BooBoo one day while he was campaigning for the CT Jr.s and a CT Sr. He even had his old dorm out helping. I asked him why he wasn't helping one of the non-regs out and he said that he learned while a yell leader a lot about the Corps and that he had a ton of respect for how much time CTs put into being in the Corps and that he thought that the job of yell leader was better suited for a CT.

I haven't seen Jimbo Cross mentioned. Gary Kipe (sp?) was CT but was excluded from Corps block and won (which was pretty non-popular with the Corps and was generally not accepted much by the other yell leaders).

Seriously, non-reg yell leaders aren't that rare. Typically happens when the non-reg is a really popular guy (or when the Corps nominates a real a-hole *cough* stika *cough* that the student body just doesn't respond to during campaigning.

a huge misconception is that the corps is forced to vote for corps block. they choose to vote for it because they nominated the individuals to represent them.

how many corps members dont vote for corps?

exactly..

Or Trent Ashby '95.

Non-reg yell boy not all that rare to pick up the 3rd senior spot. Happened twice while I was there.

that's was my point, they do vote for corps block, but not because they are forced. i'm not trying to flame, just trying to bring some clarity. i'm not heartbroken a non-reg won, and as I posted earlier buck seems like a great guy, i'm just trying to get across that there is a system in place for corps block that allows the members to nominate who they think best represents them. in no way is this system fool proof, but it's the system the corps uses.

mazag, the corps block votes for the corps b/c they have what would be like a primary within the corps prior to the student body general election. It is similar to what a political party does in a general election.

If the NRs did similar things there would probably never be a majority corps yell team again.

FIDO, are you going to shave my head because i said "FIDO"?

Everyone in the corps dislikes non-reg yell leaders for one major reason. That is that as a junior in the corps you wear a white belt that takes 2 years to earn, it isn't just given to you, and when a NR is elected it is just given to him.

The biggest reason the corps has a big problem with this NR yell leader is the way his campaign staff has acted towards us. his buddy jacob started yelling at fish last night because they were looking at their celebration, pretty mature if you ask me. I hope he proves me wrong, but it seems that he ran for all the wrong reasons, and personal glory, when i can honestly say that all the corps candidates are the most humble people i have ever met, and genuinely awesome guys.

this is stupid....in no way do u have to be a CT to serve as a yell leader...i garantee buck will be a great yell leader...and will be equally as good as any of those other 4 guys out there...the corps needs to get over this cause Buck is the best man for the job

i respect the corps and think they are an important part of aTm...but i dont want to hear about the hardships they go through and all this crap... there are a lot of little ***** head guys from my high school who are now in the corps just becuase if they had not joined the corps they would not have been able to attend aTm...they didnt do jack crap in high school, didnt play sports, did nothing...just cuase u can run 3 miles and do more pull ups and push ups than me doesnt mean jack squat...the corps does a lot of pointless stuff and i think there are a ton of NG who if they really wanted to put up with someone a year older than them running their lives they could...but really, what self respecting person really wants to do that...half the fish in corps only care about getting through that first year just so they can treat their fish like crap...ive been around a lot of corps gues and have talked to them about this and thats all they ever talk about is how they cant wait till they are sophmores so they can dish it out...

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and Rebel ag...where did u get this crap...buck respects everything about aTm...i heard every day from him how much respect he had for Ryan and the other guys and how he thought Ryan was a great guy... Buck wants to be a yell leader for all the right reasons...he wants to represent the other 90 % of this school that isnt in the corps...you answer me how having 5 corps yell leaders completely represents the entire student body of aTm... Buck did not run just to spite the corps...he ran becuase he loves this school and after next year people will see why he won and why so many people are glad he did...

im not arguing about the block and why the usually win. im arguing the guy who said he didnt like buck because his campaigners never gave him flyers or looked at him. if you are in the corps, your are obviously not going to get any attention from people who know your not voting for them. its simple.