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The Marcel can't throw narrative

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After which game did Elko say he hoped that narrative was now put to rest? Was it last years Notre Dame game?
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If it was then Elko's a bigger idiot than he appears to be.

Marcel's completion percentage in the Notre Dame game last year was 46%
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Elko has incredibly thin skin and is constantly trying to dunk on the media and fans. I was fooled by him big time, it's just a matter of time until a change at head coach is made.
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If it was then Elko's a bigger idiot than he appears to be.

Marcel's completion percentage in the Notre Dame game last year was 46%


According to AI this is what he said after the win at Notre Dame.

"Hopefully, you guys won't have to ask me any more questions about whether or not Marcel can throw. That's what I really hope comes out of this win."
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Oof yeah I found it.

About the 38 second mark.

cords12
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Last year's team was absolutely LOADED with talent and the easiest schedule in decades! Give us a slightly above average Quarterback instead of Reed and the Ags play Indiana in the National title game.
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And 83ish yards of his total came on a craver catch and run
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4th and 2 vs Kentucky is all you need to know about Reed as a QB…..
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Jarrin Jay said:

4th and 2 vs Kentucky is all you need to know about Reed as a QB…..


I still cannot believe that throw was made by a starting SEC quarterback lol
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HoustonAg2106 said:

Jarrin Jay said:

4th and 2 vs Kentucky is all you need to know about Reed as a QB…..


I still cannot believe that throw was made by a starting SEC quarterback lol

Nobody can. Including the team.

Nobody but Elko, who is going to shove it down everyone's throat, including his own team's, in order to avoid saying "I was wrong" .
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The story is told by the box scores aka stats.

56% completion
5 yards per catch
1 +Interceptions per game

Marcel Reed is very nice and respectful player, who probably needs a change of venue.

To me Reed is not the issue, the season is over, and he's not coming back.

The issue is Mike Elko - (2) healthy QB's in three years regress while at the same time he gives speeches.
He could be thinking I can't trash a guy because the next QB won't sign here unless I praise the current QB?

The head coach should not under any circumstances pay attention to fan bases or the media or social media.
The head coach is not the publicist or pr rep of his players or himself, but Elko dis-agrees.
Most coaches just say I need to look at the film, that's code for the QB played poorly.
Frankly it is the problem with CFB you have to pay up front, hope the kid performs and never criticize in public.
It is why Nick Saban left.


The stats tell the story and the story they tell at A&M is Elko better get better in 2027.
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Both reed and elko are complete jokes
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whytho987654 said:

Both reed and elko are complete jokes

They are both in WAY over their heads !

You can't compete in the SEC without being and having the best of the best

We've had that but we just can't be called among the best of the best
NEXT YEAR IS HERE.......again
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4 said:

If it was then Elko's a bigger idiot than he appears to be.

Marcel's completion percentage in the Notre Dame game last year was 46%


It's all about winning and the team won. Bucky had a career 48% completion percentage and threw for almost twice as many picks as TDS over 46 games against SWC foes at A&M and fans revere him. Marcel led the team last season to a better record than Bucky ever did under Jackie/RC in the SWC.

It's Reed's misfortune that A&M isn't as overwhelmingly dominant everywhere else like in the late 80s.
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Bucky was a run first option QB, and he was 100x the leader, competitor and athlete Reed is. Comparing Buck passing stats to Reed is immaterial.

I'd take Calzada on his worst day over Reed, that is how bad Reed is.
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I don't believe Bucky had a 48% career completion percentage. He was a decent passer and that was only a part of his contribution. Heck he played in the NFL.
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Faustus said:

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If it was then Elko's a bigger idiot than he appears to be.

Marcel's completion percentage in the Notre Dame game last year was 46%


It's all about winning and the team won. Bucky had a career 48% completion percentage and threw for almost twice as many picks as TDS over 46 games against SWC foes at A&M and fans revere him. Marcel led the team last season to a better record than Bucky ever did under Jackie/RC in the SWC.

It's Reed's misfortune that A&M isn't as overwhelmingly dominant everywhere else like in the late 80s.

He also rushed for 2095 yards.

I think 99% of the fans would take Bucky right now. He was a winner.
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Bucky made plays.

Reed throws the ball into the dirt and laughs on the sidelines.
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Jarrin Jay said:

Bucky was a run first option QB, and he was 100x the leader, competitor and athlete Reed is. Comparing Buck passing stats to Reed is immaterial.

I'd take Calzada on his worst day over Reed, that is how bad Reed is.


Bucky had more passing attempts than rushes and about 1k more passing yards so run first is questionable.

Reed has 1279 rushing yards in 35 games compared to Bucky's 2095 in 46, so pretty close if Reed gets 11 more games, which seems unlikely.

Reed did throw for more yards last season than Bucky did in 46 games.
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Faustus said:

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If it was then Elko's a bigger idiot than he appears to be.

Marcel's completion percentage in the Notre Dame game last year was 46%


It's all about winning and the team won. Bucky had a career 48% completion percentage and threw for almost twice as many picks as TDS over 46 games against SWC foes at A&M and fans revere him. Marcel led the team last season to a better record than Bucky ever did under Jackie/RC in the SWC.

It's Reed's misfortune that A&M isn't as overwhelmingly dominant everywhere else like in the late 80s.

That's all well and good if the point had been that Elko had said, I wish everybody could understand now how many games Marcel wins.

But that's not what he said.

He specifically referenced how good Marcel was at passing.

Which he isn't, and wasn't.

That game in particular, he was incredibly poor.

But he didn't complete zero passes and the few that he did complete, the receivers made big plays out of them.

This isn't hard to understand.
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Sterling82 said:

I don't believe Bucky had a 48% career completion percentage. He was a decent passer and that was only a part of his contribution. Heck he played in the NFL.

Okay, I looked and that is correct. It's hard to remember the days when 60% was an incredible accomplishment. The top passer in the SWC reached that level but no one else. I checked Favre in 1989 since we played Southern Miss in 1989 and he had 54%. Completely different metrics.
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Sterling82 said:

Sterling82 said:

I don't believe Bucky had a 48% career completion percentage. He was a decent passer and that was only a part of his contribution. Heck he played in the NFL.

Okay, I looked and that is correct. It's hard to remember the days when 60% was an incredible accomplishment. The top passer in the SWC reached that level but no one else. I checked Favre in 1989 since we played Southern Miss in 1989 and he had 54%. Completely different metrics.


In 1989 the most accurate QB threw for 69.3%. Ty Detmer was 2nd at 64.3% and 4500+ yards.

Definitely different era, but by my count roughly 56 or so qualified QBs had a better completion % than Favre's 54.1% in 1989 at So. Miss, so Brett's accuracy wasn't the ceiling.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/1989-passing.html

Agreed that the SWC was terrible at that stage and he did get drafted, but it was in a round that no longer exists to the professional team down the road trying to get market share against the Cowboys to back up Warren Moon.
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I think Reed is who he was last year. What has happened to him this year is on Elko for promoting Wiggins. Elko also allowed and even contributed to a bunch of poisonous hype. Reed walking around in flashy clothes like he was some kind of star. Recievers acting like they had proven something, Elko touting is secondary.

It's just a ****show in that building and Elko's thin skin proves he knows how bad he fd up the season.
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Our YAC this year has to be terrible because Reed just isn't hitting his targets in stride. Look at KC's highlights and it is night/day compared to the latest version of QB1.
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cords12 said:

Last year's team was absolutely LOADED with talent and the easiest schedule in decades! Give us a slightly above average Quarterback instead of Reed and the Ags play Indiana in the National title game.
Even this year. Give us a competent QB and we're 6-2 at least.
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I also saw Bucky as a great leader and stiff arming the hell outta dudes trying to tackle him.

Don't forget games weren't called the same back in Bucky's day.
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Billys Cesspool Boy said:

I also saw Bucky as a great leader and stiff arming the hell outta dudes trying to tackle him.

Also, yes, he COULD play linebacker
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zooguy96 said:

Bucky made plays.

Reed throws the ball into the dirt and laughs on the sidelines.


Even this season Marcel is close to 10% more accurate than Bucky's career average.

Bucky averaged 45.5 on the ground and 66.1 yards through the air with a 48.4 completion % while throwing 14 TDs to 23 picks over 46 games. 111.6 total yards per game against the SWC. Over 4 seasons he only had to play against 4 other conference teams that finished the season ranked, which undoubtedly helped bump him to over 100 total combined ypg.

'87 No one else
'88 Arkansas and UH finished 12 and 18
'90 Texas and UH finished 12 and 10
'91 No one else.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/swc/1991.html

Bucky had mostly mid to bad career stats against horrific competition but gets a ton of credit for the team wins, while Reed has far better numbers against vastly superior comp. but gets a ton of credit for the losses.
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Marcel's accuracy has certainly de-Kleined this year to the point that he may not be the best option we have to WIN at QB. But until coach hardhead pulls the plug and at least tries to give us a chance to win we'll never know. Until then the beatings will continue.

However, Not only is his accuracy bad, but his.decision-making in critical situations is even worse. Ex: the 4th & 1 against bama. And basically every offensive drive to the end of the game .
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whytho987654 said:

Both reed and elko are complete jokes


I wouldn't say they're complete jokes

Marcel is really good at tiktok & Lko absolutely dominates at Golden Corral
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Faustus said:

zooguy96 said:

Bucky made plays.

Reed throws the ball into the dirt and laughs on the sidelines.


Even this season Marcel is close to 10% more accurate than Bucky's career average.

Bucky averaged 45.5 on the ground and 66.1 yards through the air with a 48.4 completion % while throwing 14 TDs to 23 picks over 46 games. 111.6 total yards per game against the SWC. Over 4 seasons he only had to play against 4 other conference teams that finished the season ranked, which undoubtedly helped bump him to over 100 total combined ypg.

'87 No one else
'88 Arkansas and UH finished 12 and 18
'90 Texas and UH finished 12 and 10
'91 No one else.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/swc/1991.html

Bucky had mostly mid to bad career stats against horrific competition but gets a ton of credit for the team wins, while Reed has far better numbers against vastly superior comp. but gets a ton of credit for the losses.


It's just not valid to compare offensive stats across these two eras. The rules changes, how holding is called, how PI is called, and others have been intentionally changed to create more offensive production, because it's believed offense is more fun to watch than great defense. That's why we'll never get a true Wrecking Crew defense again.
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Darian Mensah has a 80.7% completion percentage during the 2026 season for the Miami Hurricanes. #1 QBR.

Texas A&M Aggies quarterback Marcel Reed has a 56.8% completion percentage in the 2026 season. #100 QBR

Can't coach accuracy.

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Marcel Reed can throw ju$t fine...
God Bless, Godspeed, and Gig 'em!
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HoustonAg2106 said:

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If it was then Elko's a bigger idiot than he appears to be.

Marcel's completion percentage in the Notre Dame game last year was 46%


According to AI this is what he said after the win at Notre Dame.

"Hopefully, you guys won't have to ask me any more questions about whether or not Marcel can throw. That's what I really hope comes out of this win."

What a ****ing dumbass. It's funny, at this point
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Faustus said:

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If it was then Elko's a bigger idiot than he appears to be.

Marcel's completion percentage in the Notre Dame game last year was 46%


It's all about winning and the team won. Bucky had a career 48% completion percentage and threw for almost twice as many picks as TDS over 46 games against SWC foes at A&M and fans revere him. Marcel led the team last season to a better record than Bucky ever did under Jackie/RC in the SWC.

It's Reed's misfortune that A&M isn't as overwhelmingly dominant everywhere else like in the late 80s.

It was a totally different game back then. Not really a relevant comparison at all
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