_mpaul said:

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homestyleag said:

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Obviously everyone wants a coach who will compete for a national championship. That's the goal. Some coaches are more likeable than others. Some coaches have better social skills and leadership skills than others. The bottom line though is that any coach who has a season worse than 8-5 should be fired immediately. With the support fans give and donors supply, anything less is just unacceptable. Being ordinary or made fun of for winning 2/3's of your games gets old, but being a farce and a laughing stock is far worse.

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So if Elko were to win back-to-back national championships and then go 7-6 the next year, he should be fired?

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According to his logic.......yes!

LOL!

So, you would fire Bear Bryant after the first year.

PortalWarrior said:

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Elko has been one game away from an SEC Championship game appearance his first two years as a coach. Yes this year isn't going at all they way we think it should go. In this day and age, with a lot of variability out of the portal, we shouldn't be rioting over one bad season. Obviously changes should and will be made for next season

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MagnumLoad said:

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The HC contract should be based on a minimum of 8 regular season wins. Win 9 or more and there are bonuses based on the number of wins greater than 8. More bonuses for championships. Win less than 7 and the HC is subject to review, with termination and no buyout as options. Obviously if he won a championship the year before he should be given more rope. This type contract would not be agreed to by a coach like Saban, but if you could hire Saban I would create a new paradigm in coaching salaries like Bum Bright did with Jackie. We need to do something like that again IMO.

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Jackie wasn't even the first choice.

TyperWoods said:

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MagnumLoad said:

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The HC contract should be based on a minimum of 8 regular season wins. Win 9 or more and there are bonuses based on the number of wins greater than 8. More bonuses for championships. Win less than 7 and the HC is subject to review, with termination and no buyout as options. Obviously if he won a championship the year before he should be given more rope. This type contract would not be agreed to by a coach like Saban, but if you could hire Saban I would create a new paradigm in coaching salaries like Bum Bright did with Jackie. We need to do something like that again IMO.

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Jackie wasn't even the first choice.

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Correct. I have posted that. It was Schembechler (sp?) at Michigan. He was set to come but decided to stay at MI. He recommended Jackie instead. We paid past top bank at the time. It worked.

ETA, the point is we went after the top or one of the top coaches, not an Elko or Stoops. It paid off. And Jackie was rolling at Pitt and beating top programs. He didn't come cheap.

homestyleag said:

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Obviously everyone wants a coach who will compete for a national championship. That's the goal. Some coaches are more likeable than others. Some coaches have better social skills and leadership skills than others. The bottom line though is that any coach who has a season worse than 8-5 should be fired immediately. With the support fans give and donors supply, anything less is just unacceptable. Being ordinary or made fun of for winning 2/3's of your games gets old, but being a farce and a laughing stock is far worse.

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You realize how many coaches we would go through…

Just Tired said:

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the step back sucks but by your criteria jackie would have been a one-and-done. didn't crack the threshold until year 4.

1982
Texas A&M
56
35
T6th



1983
Texas A&M
551
431
T3rd



1984
Texas A&M
65
35
7th



1985
Texas A&M
102
71
1st

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We all would have fired Homer Norton in year 1, so he wouldn't have won the national championship in '39

_mpaul said:

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So if Elko were to win back-to-back national championships and then go 7-6 the next year, he should be fired?

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Do you know anything about statistics ? The probability of Elko winning back-to-back national championships is, as we used to say, "zero.snake****".

And full disclosure, that's the same probability that he will win one national championship in his lifetime.

PortalWarrior said:

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Elko has been one game away from an SEC Championship game appearance his first two years as a coach. Yes this year isn't going at all they way we think it should go. In this day and age, with a lot of variability out of the portal, we shouldn't be rioting over one bad season. Obviously changes should and will be made for next season

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Who was his QB for both of those games? Who is responsible for fixing that issue?

Bama would've fired Saban after year 1 with this standard. Doubt they regret not doing that.

Edit: sorry I didn't see someone else had pointed this out

Just for reference, only 12 teams in DI-A have an all-time record over 0.67, or 8-4. I went with 8-4 because the 5 in 8-5 is typically a meaningless bowl game.
Fewer than 20 coaches with time at a major program are better than 0.67 lifetime, and that's going back to Pop Warner (1895-1938).