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OC is more than play calling....

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Divining Rod
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I don't think play calling alone is responsible for:

QB that stares down receivers; cant make routine throws, OL that absolutely suck at blocking, and an
offense that is obviously worse than 95% of the power 4 teams.

We are NOT matching personal skills with system designs that maximize their physical abilities.

It's one of those things you know it when you see it- trying to pound a square peg into a round hole. EVERYONE on the offense is playing hamstringed.

Our offense looks horrible. tick tock tick tock Holman
Bill Superman
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All of these QB coaches, OC, HC and private QB Coaches and they've made Reed incapable of completing the forward pass. He was not nearly this bad last year.
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Bill Superman said:

All of these QB coaches, OC, HC and private QB Coaches and they've made Reed incapable of completing the forward pass. He was not nearly this bad last year.


It's crazy. He went from serviceable to absolutely atrocious.
Give me the guy who shoots for excellence and fails over the guy who shoots for mediocrity and succeeds.
AggieRob93
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It's not as if Reed peaked at the end of last season. He peaked against Notre Dame, then the spiral began, and it has continued into this season.
dixichkn
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Something happened to that guy the first half of SCar last year. Yes he did rally that day. But he's been dog crap pretty much every minute since. He needs a psychologist. Not another coach.
TexasRebel
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Play calling would be a step up.

We're drawing plays out of a hat.
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TexasRebel said:

Play calling would be a step up.

We're drawing plays out of a hat.


I don't think it matters where we get our plays from if we don't have a QB who can throw
Give me the guy who shoots for excellence and fails over the guy who shoots for mediocrity and succeeds.
JaceAG12
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Maybe Klein who wasn't a great throwing QB himself was protecting Reed more than we thought? Plus having 2 first round WRs helps.

I laugh because I kept wondering why we never let him roll out and throw on the run. Today answered that question. He's worse throwing on the run than he is in the pocket.
StinkyPinky
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Just in….we stink
Demo_Slug
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Wishbone…. That's what I'd run with Reed. You can thank me later
TexasAggiesWin
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The private QB coach has made sure nobody ever books him for private lessons in the future.
B-1 83
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It's not responsible for giving up 35 points (could have been 50), no pass rush, and no containment
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
EaglePassAg08
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QB coach made him believe he was a pocket passer
Divining Rod
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EaglePassAg08 said:

QB coach made him believe he was a pocket passer


He may BE a pocket passer, but how would we ever know?
npc
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JaceAG12 said:

Maybe Klein who wasn't a great throwing QB himself was protecting Reed more than we thought? Plus having 2 first round WRs helps.

I laugh because I kept wondering why we never let him roll out and throw on the run. Today answered that question. He's worse throwing on the run than he is in the pocket.
Been saying this for a while. Reed doesn't have a strong enough base and core to throw effectively on the run. That's on top of natural inaccuracies due to trash mechanics.
KatyAggie2000
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No ingenuity.
TexasRebel
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We're not seeing enough wheel route or option.
Flashdiaz
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QB coach is bad at evaluating and developing. Reed is bad then the backup comes in and throws to the inside , when it should have been the outside, of the receiver resulting in an interception. Now we have 2 ineffective QBs
TRD-Ferguson
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I know you're kidding but that's certainly a way to get him out of the game! He wouldn't last a series with his small frame.

David Walker might have been a tad bigger than Reed and he took a beating.
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TexasAggiesWin said:

The private QB coach has made sure nobody ever books him for private lessons in the future.


If he can tie balloon animals he might be able to book private events.
JustisWalkert
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Everybody is talking about how bad the offense played. Let's not forget how the defense was gang raped, particularly in the second half.
TexasRebel
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JustisWalkert said:

Everybody is talking about how bad the offense played. Let's not forget how the defense was gang raped, particularly in the second half.


No defense should be asked to play 70 minutes of regulation time.
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KatyAggie2000 said:

No ingenuity.
Where is Bobby Petrino when you need him?
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Farmer84
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Hiring a lifetime WR coach who had never called plays as OC was idiotic.
Aston04
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Farmer84 said:

Hiring a lifetime WR coach who had never called plays as OC was idiotic.


It was really dumb. They should have hired an experienced guy and gave wiggins a better title/more involvement with calling plays.

High schools promote Wr coaches to oc. Not top 10 budget college programs.
CowHop
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FBS teams that did not score a TD in week 4

Bucknell
C. Michigan
Lindenwood
Maryland
Bowling Green
Delaware
Long Island
Sacramento St.
Texas A&M
IslanderAg04
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CowHop said:

FBS teams that did not score a TD in week 4

Bucknell
C. Michigan
Lindenwood
Maryland
Bowling Green
Delaware
Long Island
Sacramento St.
Texas A&M


Intimidating group there. I guess Delaware at least has some history.
dreyOO
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dixichkn said:

Something happened to that guy the first half of SCar last year. Yes he did rally that day. But he's been dog crap pretty much every minute since. He needs a psychologist. Not another coach.

That's exactly right. In the first quarter, he got crushed by a big DL and dropped the ball. He recovered it and we rallied in the game.

But I think that was when he first got truly rattled and he's been a head case since then.
texag101
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Farmer84 said:

Hiring a lifetime WR coach who had never called plays as OC was idiotic.
There are a bunch of people here that would….and did…..disagree. Unbelievable.
DGrimesAg92
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Maybe it's me, but has anyone else noticed that every time he gets ready to throw a pass, it looks like he's taking a crow hop to throw it as hard as he can?
Agsone
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If he transferred to KSU I guess that would answer the OC confidence question, but he didn't.
A&M Give Us Room!
Rocky Rider
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Aston04 said:

Farmer84 said:

Hiring a lifetime WR coach who had never called plays as OC was idiotic.


It was really dumb. They should have hired an experienced guy and gave wiggins a better title/more involvement with calling plays.

High schools promote Wr coaches to oc. Not top 10 budget college programs.


Saban understood this. Elko should've paid attention. Saban knew Wiggins had value as a recruiter and with player relationships, but he didn't turn the offense over to him.
JohnClark929
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The pass plays called were good in that receivers were open and the OL held long enough. The run plays were also good; Owens averaged 5.6y against LSU (#2 Rushing Defense in the nation). Wiggins deserves some credit, but he has failed miserably at 1) QB development and 2) Calling the right plays knowing his QB is incredibly deficient.
Skull Session
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Maybe remove that smoked visor and replace with a clear one and see if he can find the open receiver faster. Who cares if the defense follows his eyes. Use it to his advantage with a TE or RB he can switch immediately to,
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TheDecadeSapling said:

Bill Superman said:

All of these QB coaches, OC, HC and private QB Coaches and they've made Reed incapable of completing the forward pass. He was not nearly this bad last year.


It's crazy. He went from serviceable to absolutely atrocious.

That's what often happens after people get paid. They have a tendency to stop trying as hard because they feel like they have finally "made it".
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