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magnolia tiger said:

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I don't base the thoughts of the fanbase on any single person on a podcast, I'm from there I interact with actual on the ground individuals who are involved with the program . Don't listen to shills. I understand you dont which is why you think "Scone" speaks for the fanbase, an T-Bob is about the dumbest drunken bafoon in media lol

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I'm saying that every single person in the LSU media sphere said those things, not just one or two. You can't name a single person out of Baton Rouge with any kind of platform that was not excited about the hire.

So your actual ground people involved in the program paid $100 guaranteed for a coach that they weren't excited about? Is that your argument now?

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Sure, these media guys are gonna rip on Kelly and risk losing access to the program. :-/

Of course they're gonna pump sunshine and say he's the best coach ever.

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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magnolia tiger said:

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I don't base the thoughts of the fanbase on any single person on a podcast, I'm from there I interact with actual on the ground individuals who are involved with the program . Don't listen to shills. I understand you dont which is why you think "Scone" speaks for the fanbase, an T-Bob is about the dumbest drunken bafoon in media lol

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I'm saying that every single person in the LSU media sphere said those things, not just one or two. You can't name a single person out of Baton Rouge with any kind of platform that was not excited about the hire.

So your actual ground people involved in the program paid $100 guaranteed for a coach that they weren't excited about? Is that your argument now?

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Sure, these media guys are gonna rip on Kelly and risk losing access to the program. :-/

Of course they're gonna pump sunshine and say he's the best coach ever.

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Is this really the revisionist history yall are going with? That LSU paid $100 million guaranteed for a coach and the fans hated the guy from day 1?

So all the LSU media guys excited about Lane right now, is that fake too so they don't lose their access? What are we doing here?

If Tiger fans don't want to remember that they were super excited about hiring BK in 2022, then let's talk about something more recent with a little bit more raw data.

How about this last year? Going into BK's 4th season LSU sold the most season tickets since 2017 and one of the most in the history of the program. Y'all had the number one portal class and a returning senior QB and everyone was talking national championship in August.

3 months later your firing the coach and paying him over $50 million to go away. The point is nothing is guaranteed, that is all I have been saying.

So I guess it's probably more accurate to say that LSU's excitement about Lane was close to the excitement level about BK's program roughly 6 months ago.

Of course there was excitement about Kelly, just not as much universal excitement amongst the entire fanbase as Kiffin. Like I said 25% of the base hated BK from day one. I've not talked to 1 that isn't pumped about Lane, however it may end up.

Your very correct nothing is guaranteed

+1500


Same as the Aggies

FCBlitz said:

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I have been watching Sports Talk J and a few other pod casts and they been point out that LSU is spending way more money than the cap allows and they are massing a very talented roster.

Seems like a lot of teams are upset with LSU.

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Didn't help Tech....

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Pichael Thompson said:

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I'm so confused


Not long ago I remember hearing about major lsu athletic department financial problems


Now all the sudden they're flush w cash?

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The state is broke, the school is probably broke, but athletics will always be well funded by boosters who are, you guessed it, not broke

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You don't become broke without spending all your money

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The fact that he is trying to devalue the notre dame win really says it all. He will cry like a little baby no matter the circumstances.

Also, we best lsu by 25 in Death Valley. They were in every other game they played, home and away.

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I dont even understand why a person like that wants to even follow the team when they cant take any happiness away from it at all.

Seems like the type of poster that if we ever win the natty he'd say, well it was a weak playoff field we really weren't that good.

HoustonAg2106 said:

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If Tiger fans don't want to remember that they were super excited about hiring BK in 2022, then let's talk about something more recent with a little bit more raw data.

How about this last year? Going into BK's 4th season LSU sold the most season tickets since 2017 and one of the most in the history of the program. Y'all had the number one portal class and a returning senior QB and everyone was talking national championship in August.

3 months later your firing the coach and paying him over $50 million to go away. The point is nothing is guaranteed, that is all I have been saying.

So I guess it's probably more accurate to say that LSU's excitement about Lane was close to the excitement level about BK's program roughly 6 months ago.

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I think you and magnoliatiger are both correct.
We as humans can be prisoners of the moment, and I think you're seeing a reaction to a new coach picking up the slack from where the previous coach failed.
Kelly wasn't working hard and the offense was terrible,
Kiffin comes in with offensive prowess and his staff immediately gets to work and puts in long hours rebuilding the roster, that's going to endear itself to the fanbase. There is also the aspect of getting one over on your rival (Ole Miss) and the media frenzy surrounding his exit that will make a fanbase "circle the wagons" so to speak.
There was a similar scenario when Kelly was hired. There was excitement about rebuilding the culture and program foundation and excelling in areas where Orgeron could not. There were also national media guys like Finebaum, Pate, Klatt, etc predicting Kelly would win championships at LSU. There was always an apprehension amongst some fans (and media) due to his age and lack of sec experience.
It's hard to put a value on the "excitement level", but I know the school has reported that season ticket requests are through the roof. Let's not forget that Lane and LSU fans are still in the honeymoon phase, he hasn't played a game yet.

I find with Moscona sometimes you have to separate the information from the opinion. He can be pretentious like magnolia said, but he does have connections with boosters, scouts, agents, and media from around the country and SEC such as Liucci an Nuno.
I don't care about his advertising. Radio hosts don't make a large salary and a large part of their income is selling ads. He's not forcing anyone to buy anything. He's raising a special needs child and his wife is a teacher so I get it.
He does seem to be on a crusade regarding what he believes is real journalism and reporting, and what he believes is fans with a microphone. I tune that stuff out as well.

Ray, are you seeing anything but excitement amongst your LSU brethren on the Kiffin hire? Very different feeling I get from 3 yrs ago.


It was split 50/50 for BK from what I saw from my acquaintances.

magnolia tiger said:

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Ray, are you seeing anything but excitement amongst your LSU brethren on the Kiffin hire? Very different feeling I get from 3 yrs ago.


It was split 50/50 for BK from what I saw from my acquaintances.

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I've got female coworkers stopping by my office mentioning specific recruits by name like Leavitt and Seaton lol. I agree it's a different kind of buzz, but I'm trying to temper my own expectations until this fall.

Thank you, yes that's the excitement I'm talking about, never mentioned expectations, that would be premature. The overall excitement with Lane vs when BK was hired is definitely more pronounced from the boots on the ground fanbase. The only expectation I have is we should see a competent offense

Kiffin has not won anything notable . 1 game away counts for squat. Trust me , we know here.

Maybe he will … maybe he won't. I can understand excitement on the part of the LSU fan base but there are no guarantees

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magnolia tiger said:

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Ray, are you seeing anything but excitement amongst your LSU brethren on the Kiffin hire? Very different feeling I get from 3 yrs ago.


It was split 50/50 for BK from what I saw from my acquaintances.

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I've got female coworkers stopping by my office mentioning specific recruits by name like Leavitt and Seaton lol. I agree it's a different kind of buzz, but I'm trying to temper my own expectations until this fall.

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This is going to be a hilarious dumpster fire before it's over. Lol. Kiffin is a dork

We play LSU in week 4. Maybe better than when Sips play them in week 8.

100% agree there are no guarantees in wins and losses, I've said that from the beginning.

The only thing I'm firmly confident in is Kiffin will have a prolific offense, which he's had everywhere he's been.

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I find with Moscona sometimes you have to separate the information from the opinion. He can be pretentious like magnolia said, but he does have connections with boosters, scouts, agents, and media from around the country and SEC such as Liucci an Nuno.
I don't care about his advertising. Radio hosts don't make a large salary and a large part of their income is selling ads. He's not forcing anyone to buy anything. He's raising a special needs child and his wife is a teacher so I get it.
He does seem to be on a crusade regarding what he believes is real journalism and reporting, and what he believes is fans with a microphone. I tune that stuff out as well.

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He lurks on every SEC board and responds to critics with this kind of BS.

FCBlitz said:

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I have been watching Sports Talk J and a few other pod casts and they been point out that LSU is spending way more money than the cap allows and they are massing a very talented roster.

Seems like a lot of teams are upset with LSU.

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They were one of the biggest spenders last year. Maybe he coaches them up but spending the most money does not equal championship. Look at Indiana and OSU.

According to other fan bases we are spending more than lsu and as much if not more than tech/tu

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FCBlitz said:

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I have been watching Sports Talk J and a few other pod casts and they been point out that LSU is spending way more money than the cap allows and they are massing a very talented roster.

Seems like a lot of teams are upset with LSU.

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They were one of the biggest spenders last year. Maybe he coaches them up but spending the most money does not equal championship. Look at Indiana and OSU.

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Edit: Sorry, rootube. That's exactly what you were saying.

HarryJ33tamu said:

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Pichael Thompson said:

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I'm so confused


Not long ago I remember hearing about major lsu athletic department financial problems


Now all the sudden they're flush w cash?

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LSU has some big money donors. Todd Graves (founder of Raising Cane's) is a big donor and has a net worth of $22 billion, yes with a B…)

Kiffin coming to Baton Rouge has re-energized that donor base. One of the biggest reasons Kiffin went there was because of the guaranteed annual NIL money for the players. They're going to be a problem for the foreseeable future.

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Todd is not close to the largest donor and he isn't in the top 10 of donors.

Ray Baker said:

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I find with Moscona sometimes you have to separate the information from the opinion. He can be pretentious like magnolia said, but he does have connections with boosters, scouts, agents, and media from around the country and SEC such as Liucci an Nuno.
I don't care about his advertising. Radio hosts don't make a large salary and a large part of their income is selling ads. He's not forcing anyone to buy anything. He's raising a special needs child and his wife is a teacher so I get it.
He does seem to be on a crusade regarding what he believes is real journalism and reporting, and what he believes is fans with a microphone. I tune that stuff out as well.

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Moscona lost his program connection with staff turnover. Magnolia and I have better connections to the LSU program than he does at this point.

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FCBlitz said:

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I have been watching Sports Talk J and a few other pod casts and they been point out that LSU is spending way more money than the cap allows and they are massing a very talented roster.

Seems like a lot of teams are upset with LSU.

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They were one of the biggest spenders last year. Maybe he coaches them up but spending the most money does not equal championship. Look at Indiana and OSU.

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Agreed on IU but OSU was one of the top spenders in 2024 and '25

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That is what he is saying. Indiana, despite WAY underspending OSU, beat them, winning the Big10 Championship.

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Ray Baker said:

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FCBlitz said:

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I have been watching Sports Talk J and a few other pod casts and they been point out that LSU is spending way more money than the cap allows and they are massing a very talented roster.

Seems like a lot of teams are upset with LSU.

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They were one of the biggest spenders last year. Maybe he coaches them up but spending the most money does not equal championship. Look at Indiana and OSU.

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Agreed on IU but OSU was one of the top spenders in 2024 and '25

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That is what he is saying. Indiana, despite WAY underspending OSU, beat them, winning the Big10 Championship.

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I guess reading comprehension is important, lol. I edited.

magnolia tiger said:

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Of course there was excitement about Kelly, just not as much universal excitement amongst the entire fanbase as Kiffin. Like I said 25% of the base hated BK from day one. I've not talked to 1 that isn't pumped about Lane, however it may end up.

Your very correct nothing is guaranteed

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How can you gauge the "universal excitement" of an "entire fan base"? Where do you randomly get 25% of the base hated BK? Making up hyperbolic stuff like that discredits your stance. Just because you haven't talked to one person who isn't pumped means nothing. You have a minute sample size of the entire fan base. I know some LSU grads who are pretty grossed out by Kiffin's actions during his hiring. And BK was crowned a God when he was hired.

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magnolia tiger said:

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Of course there was excitement about Kelly, just not as much universal excitement amongst the entire fanbase as Kiffin. Like I said 25% of the base hated BK from day one. I've not talked to 1 that isn't pumped about Lane, however it may end up.

Your very correct nothing is guaranteed

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How can you gauge the "universal excitement" of an "entire fan base"? Where do you randomly get 25% of the base hated BK? Making up hyperbolic stuff like that discredits your stance. Just because you haven't talked to one person who isn't pumped means nothing. You have a minute sample size of the entire fan base. I know some LSU grads who are pretty grossed out by Kiffin's actions during his hiring. And BK was crowned a God when he was hired.

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Bro you don't have the connections he has

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magnolia tiger said:

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Of course there was excitement about Kelly, just not as much universal excitement amongst the entire fanbase as Kiffin. Like I said 25% of the base hated BK from day one. I've not talked to 1 that isn't pumped about Lane, however it may end up.

Your very correct nothing is guaranteed

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How can you gauge the "universal excitement" of an "entire fan base"? Where do you randomly get 25% of the base hated BK? Making up hyperbolic stuff like that discredits your stance. Just because you haven't talked to one person who isn't pumped means nothing. You have a minute sample size of the entire fan base. I know some LSU grads who are pretty grossed out by Kiffin's actions during his hiring. And BK was crowned a God when he was hired.

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Message boards are a pretty damn easy way to gauge opinions on coaching.

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TexasAggie_97 said:

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Then why are we not getting the elite 5-star players like they are? There were at least 5 elite QBs that would have been an immediate upgrade.

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Who were these 5 elite QB's in the portal that were clearly better than Reed?

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I'm going to assume you're joking, but if not, feel free to go to the 247 transfer portal tracker and look for yourself. If you don't think that several of those guys would not have been an immediate upgrade, then you're either lying to yourself or just being obstinate.

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I did. And I did the research.

Marcel Reed
234 of 377 (62.1%) for 3,169 yards, 25TD, 12INT, 148.2 rating
104 carries for 493 yards, 6 TD

Sam Leavitt
145 of 239 (60.7%) for 1,628 yards, 10TD, 3INT, 129.2 rating
73 carries for 306 yards, 5 TD

Brendan Soresby
207 of 366 (61.6%) for 2,800 yards, 27TD, 5INT, 155.1 rating
100 carries for 509 yards, 5 TD

DJ Lagway
213 of 337 (63.2%) for 2,264 yards, 16TD, 14INT, 127.0 rating
71 carries for 136 yards, 1 TD

Drew Mestemaker
319 of 463 (68.9%) for 4,379 yards, 34TD, 9INT, 168.7 rating
57 carries for 89 yards, 5 TD

Dylan Raiola
181 for 250 (72.4%) for 2,000 yards, 18TD, 6INT, 158.6 rating
46 caries for -87 yards, 0TD (this is pathetic)

And Marcel did that against far better defenses than everyone but Lagway. If Reed had gone into the portal it's likely he's the #1 player overall based on metrics.


So again, I ask, which 5 QB's on real production and metrics against real competition are clearly better than Reed? Also, keep in mind, your ridiculous premise is that we aren't spending money because we didn't get a QB to replace Reed. Yet Reed makes more $ than everyone on that last except maybe Soresby. And that's a maybe.

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But.. But,, But.. He had bad games against TX and Miami... (sarcasm)

I agree with you, If Reed can cut down the turnovers and be more accurate (really just boils down to decision making and timing) then he can put together a great season next year..

How quick some will turn on our guys!

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Quick? He had two years! Two years of easy schedules, position to make the playoffs and whiffed in 2024. In 2025 he got even more breaks, and a playoff game at Kyle and did nothing but turn the ball over. He forgot how to make plays when it matter most... two years in a row.

Now he has to prove himself with a much harder schedule.

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These kids aren't generated in a lab.
Go back to your CFB26 video game. Reed has shown good games like ND, Missou, Arky and LSU, and bad games like TX and UM. That happens. Miami made NC with Beck.. Not every QB is prime Peyton Manning.

He will get better and show more consistency as part of growth.

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He was 17/37 against ND. Last time I checked, a 46% completion rate wasn't very good. He was also 12/21 with two picks against LSU.