Who should a&m target? Some of these G5 guys can rip it, should let reed walk

Reed has proven to his team he can't be trusted under the bright lights.

This can't be fixed.

Time to cut bait.

Let it go, they won't go for another QB. It's Reed next year and we have no choice

Exactly we are too nice. We stay with Reed. We didn't go after one last year with Reed going 8-4. So we will run hr back again.. I'm calling 5-7 or 6-6

I posted a similar thought on another thread.

Objectively, Reed is a "very good" but not elite QB and I agree with the sentiment it is time to look elsewhere.

Perhaps my only modification is simply "open the position" up again for competition. If Reed stays and proves he is the best to lead next year among our choices, fine. If he is the type that cannot take the competition (offended by that) and leaves, fine. We live in a new era thanks to the players wanting to be paid. It's just business now.

If we want to win a national title I do agree that while I think Reed is very good, he is capped out and likely not the QB to win a national title. I agree with Elko, we saw him improve a lot this year. He settled in more (freshman year was all over the place with flashes of greatness). But IMO, that "progress" stalled around LSU and Mizzou games, both competition of which weren't elite teams this year. He cannot hit a pass over 25 yards consistently enough that other teams will respect that when game planning (this has been the case for 2 years now). He showed great improvement this year in his checks and pocket presence, but then became inconsistent in the games that mattered. I think some laud his scrambling ability just wanting the "next Johnny Football." But in no elite program does it hinge on a scrambling QB - have to be consistent in all facets of the game and elite in at least most of them.

A month ago he was a heisman contender, now he's dog crap.

This fan base is ridiculous.

GoAgs92 said:

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A month ago he was a heisman contender, now he's dog crap.

This fan base is ridiculous.

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No, it was marketing.

I never bought into the idea he was. But if it added some buzz around the program, I was fine with it. It's just the modern era of football now.

Don't want to pile on, but I think we win comfortably with good QB play yesterday. Consider these few plays:

1) Bomb to Craver. The fastest WR in the game needed all his juice to make a great catch. A good throw is a TD.

2) Two picks. Just terrible throws. Nothing else to say.

3) 3rd and 2 to EJ. A short pass. 100% first down with a competent throw.

4) Fumbled pass to Moss. Double coverage. Zero reason to throw.

5) Non-catch throw to Concepcion. Decent throw is likely a TD.

6) intentional grounding. Just a terrible decision. Really no other way to describe it.

7) Middle screen to 87. That was probably more on 87. However, looked like a great call and possible TD.

Crazy to think our QB1 is a millionaire (more wealth than most of us) and we have to ride with him even though there are many other better QBs available.

GoAgs92 said:

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A month ago he was a heisman contender, now he's dog crap.

This fan base is ridiculous.

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Reed was never a Heisman contender and "this fanbase" didn't start that idiotic narrative though many did eat it up after it started.

Bobaloo.... I cannot disagree with your thought. I personally believe we need to open the QB position for next year. But we had our chances yesterday and it's not all on Reed. My point in wanting to see the QB position opened is based on overall skill I saw in the second half of the season across games. Reed is "good," but not "elite," and you need an elite one in this day and age to win a national title.

To contrast, for example, I don't think Bucky would be an elite QB in today's style of play, though we loved Bucky. So it's nothing personal toward Reed. He made some progress this year, but it's clear to me he's peaked. Biggest issue for me is no team respects any pass he throws over around 25 yards. Been saying it all season.