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Things that have been apparent all season finally bit us in the ass.

1. Stupid ass penalties (false starts)
2. Cutsie play calling by Klein
3. Tackling

All 3 reared their ugly head last night. Can't overcome it when all 3 happen.

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You forgot poor FG kicking
Inconsistent QB play

Anyone with the thought the team was playing themselves out of the CCG is a moron and likely didn't watch the USCe game.

We had a weak game plan to start the game and once Reed hurt his ankle, the play list was reduced Injuries are expected and we didn't develop a backup QB worth sticking in the game that could manage the game.

We got beat by a team that was better prepared and wanted it more. They had nothing to lose and everything to gain and played better football.

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A. G. Pennypacker said:

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OlsenAg15 said:

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Again, read the post in its entirety.
I'm not a conspiracist, just probing to get others perception on what happened to our team yesterday.

Some of you guys are just so relentless

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No. I read the entire post. The premise is ridiculous.

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It a simple hypothetical to gather input and perspective from others. Lighten up

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OK - That's my information. Take it as a data point in the gathering of perspectives.

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OlsenAg15 said:

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A. G. Pennypacker said:

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OlsenAg15 said:

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Again, read the post in its entirety.
I'm not a conspiracist, just probing to get others perception on what happened to our team yesterday.

Some of you guys are just so relentless

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No. I read the entire post. The premise is ridiculous.

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It a simple hypothetical to gather input and perspective from others. Lighten up

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OK - That's my information. Take it as a data point in the gathering of perspectives.

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Haha, heard.

The team and the coaches all played tight. They didn't play with confidence outside of KC.

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LOL, darn, can't lie your trolling did get me up to this point. +1.

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lol, no trolling, I must admit though my confusion and agitation with the team does have me reaching pretty far today!

Philip J Fry said:

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The team and the coaches all played tight. They didn't play with confidence outside of KC.

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Could not agree more.
It was so frustrating to watch knowing what we are capable of.
Been very disappointed in Craver the back half of the season as well.

Good grief….this was sip…..if anyone associated with the program was passive….they don't deserve to be at A&M

Message Board Geniuses, here we come!!!

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Message Board Geniuses, here we come!!!

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Haha, I know right!

We got our ass kicked. if ANY part of that was inyentional,
we got bigger problems than we thought.

OP's premise is ridiculous - some of the "bonus" triggers in Elko's existing contract (and also for the staff now) would've kicked in by getting to the SEC championship game and also for winning it.

So - besides the competitive desire to win and beat a rival - there was also $ on the table as well for the coaches.

A. G. Pennypacker said:

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Wabs said:

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Things that have been apparent all season finally bit us in the ass.

1. Stupid ass penalties (false starts)
2. Cutsie play calling by Klein
3. Tackling

All 3 reared their ugly head last night. Can't overcome it when all 3 happen.

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You forgot poor FG kicking
Inconsistent QB play

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was that fg attempt in the red zone (does it have to be w/in the opponent's 25 or 20 yd line)?.

Anyway, how many red zone fails have the Ags had this season? Seemed like a lot.

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OP's premise is ridiculous - some of the "bonus" triggers in Elko's existing contract (and also for the staff now) would've kicked in by getting to the SEC championship game and also for winning it.

So - besides the competitive desire to win and beat a rival - there was also $ on the table as well for the coaches.

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"not saying this actually happened"

I don't think and hope it did not occur either.
It is a hypothetical thought and attempt to solicit others thoughts/perspectives, gather input, spark conversations..

It is not a stance, just simple conversation is all.

I don't think so OP. Surely not, right? However, it is very hard to understand how we could coach so badly and so opposite of what brought our success, accidentally. Just a brain dead coaching effort, which happens sometimes I guess. Awful!!

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I don't think so OP. Surely not, right? However, it is very hard to understand how we could coach so badly and so opposite of what brought our success, accidentally. Just a brain dead coaching effort, which happens sometimes I guess. Awful!!

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I surely hope not as well, not who we are as AGGIES!
It just seemed to drastically off from what we have seen all season, like a completely different game plan and team.

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Yeah hmm 11 games in and the brilliant idea of not breaking out the play book.

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So what we saw from Elko and Klein was by design? Yikes !!!

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Did it feel like our game plan was so intentionally vanilla?
To the point where our staff was okay with a loss, therefore not playing the meaningless SECCG and prepping for playoffs…
Again, not saying that is actually the case but could there have been instructions from Elko to staff to not pull out all the stops for this game?

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After seeing Elko in the presser, that seems very unlikely. He was pissed and embarrassed..

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His being "pissed off" schtick is growing old already. He had one ****ing job and failed miserably at it again on national tv to his in state rival. He and Klein **** down their leg in the biggest game of the season thus far. The fans should be mad, he should be embarrassed

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He's going to be the first coach to get A&M to the playoffs. No, he did not have 1 job. He had 12. He went 11/12.

Go cry somewhere else.

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Same gameplan we have had all year. Reed has lived on passes near the LOS and only run when in dire need. It worked really well until last night

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Reed has passed in the mid game and hit plenty of deep shots all year. The difference last night was he faced a DL that was able to move the pocket and get him uncomfortable.

Wabs said:

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Things that have been apparent all season finally bit us in the ass.

1. Stupid ass penalties (false starts)
2. Cutsie play calling by Klein
3. Tackling

All 3 reared their ugly head last night. Can't overcome it when all 3 happen.

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4. Crappy special teams
5. Reeds errant passing

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OlsenAg15 said:

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Read the post in full before chirping from the peanut gallery

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Read it. You're wrong. Winters and champion mindsets don't plan to lose.

If you want to compare to NFL, we just shifted ourselves into the wild card race opposed to a guaranteed slot. The SEC CG isn't a meaningless post season speed bump. There's real money on the line for the program and the school to make that game.

The results may have been flat, but that was no way the plan.

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I don't think they planned to lose.
I think being guaranteed a spot in the playoffs affected their game plan and team attitude towards this game specifically.

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If you can't get up for this game, you don't understand football in this great state. Good lord some of you people. We dominated the first half and i think the team thought they had it. Sark changed his game plan and out coached Elko and co. Then Reed started to feel the pressure and forced the ball and ball game. That pick inside the 5 is inexcusable. His escability is top tier, but his decision making is not. He could have thrown 5 picks against USC in the 1st half if there D backs could catch.

Honestly, i feel this is what we get scheduling a game like Samford, the game before a rival.

OlsenAg15 said:

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Read the thread… some good stuff in here.
Your gif usage is super neat though.

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Yup, borderline conspiracy theory... two thumbs up on the tinfoil hat.

The only thing we held back (maybe) was Le'Veon.

Other than that, we just got beat.

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... but he still after 2 years is trying to make Marcel into a pocket passer when he is clearly a one maybe two read RPO guy.

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This! If we are to win THIS THING, Marcel will hafta be "turned loose" to play his game. We only saw flashes of it last night.

I kept beating myself over the head wondering why we didn't use the exotic blitz packages we have all year in the second half.

I felt we took that exact approach on purpose. Let's beat them with vanilla and if we can't we get to rest for three weeks.

It just didn't make sense compared to what we typically do.

OlsenAg15 said:

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Did it feel like our game plan was so intentionally vanilla?
To the point where our staff was okay with a loss, therefore not playing the meaningless SECCG and prepping for playoffs…
Again, not saying that is actually the case but could there have been instructions from Elko to staff to not pull out all the stops for this game?

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I'm considered by many as the biggest sunshine pumper and positivity Ag in the history of TexAgs.

Even I can't post something like this with clear eyes and a full maroon heart.

OlsenAg15 said:

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Read the post in full before chirping from the peanut gallery

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We read it. It's a stupid take. What did you expect?

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OlsenAg15 said:

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Read the post in full before chirping from the peanut gallery

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We read it. It's a stupid take. What did you expect?

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lol, it's not a take. Hope your day gets better!

VatoLocoAggie said:

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OlsenAg15 said:

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Did it feel like our game plan was so intentionally vanilla?
To the point where our staff was okay with a loss, therefore not playing the meaningless SECCG and prepping for playoffs…
Again, not saying that is actually the case but could there have been instructions from Elko to staff to not pull out all the stops for this game?

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I'm considered by many as the biggest sunshine pumper and positivity Ag in the history of TexAgs.

Even I can't post something like this with clear eyes and a full maroon heart.

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Yeah man, I get it. Just throwing things against the wall today, this one clearly upset some!

Exactly…I mean, why would you keep running Owens when he clearly wasn't 100%…I mean EJ had the touch…I don't get it. Plus the defense looked like Swiss cheese. Very lethargic and not to mention the struggling OLine and our kicking game was atrocious!

Right. Because it's a solid strategy to intentionally tank going to the first conference title game in 27 years becauee you're certain you're going to win the whole thing. Anyone with a brain expects our trophy case to stay empty.

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Right. Because it's a solid strategy to intentionally tank going to the first conference title game in 27 years becauee you're certain you're going to win the whole thing.

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I absolutely don't think anything was tanked, just looked to me like a lackadaisical approach/game plan.

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But I'm just speculating. This team has just looked so different week to week, I'm not sure what is "real" and what is an anomaly.

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Welcome to Texas A&M football.

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OlsenAg15 said:

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Read the post in full before chirping from the peanut gallery

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We read it. It's a stupid take. What did you expect?

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Please explain not blitzing in the 2nd half like we have all year. We put pressure on Manning in the first half and he couldn't do anything. He ran up the middle when we rushed 3 or 4 and dropped everyone else which was not our typical approach.

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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OlsenAg15 said:

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Did it feel like our game plan was so intentionally vanilla?
To the point where our staff was okay with a loss, therefore not playing the meaningless SECCG and prepping for playoffs…
Again, not saying that is actually the case but could there have been instructions from Elko to staff to not pull out all the stops for this game?

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If Elko is as smart as we're told there is zero chance of this. He was fighting to play in the SEC Championship and a bye in the first round of playoffs. That and the game being "the game" makes it mind boggling that he might attempt such a gambit. Sadly, he and Klein simply got out coached, again.

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What was our game plan? I mean, essentially zero down field passes, no creativity, no establishment of run game, very little use of Marcel legs (I get it he was banged up a little).
Defense played semi-well but felt like they being preventative most of the night, just trying to keep big plays from happening.

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Did you watch the game? There were plenty of down field passes called. They were dropping everyone into coverage. How many times did we have a pass play called and our QB had quite a bit of time? SEVERAL. Our coaches know what the hell they are doing, and they really care about winning and pouring into our young men & program. The culture is as good as it has ever been. Our players have shown more Aggie spirit than I can remember in the last 20 years. They care about each other.