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HJack20
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Hypothetical: Does the loser of 12-0 OSU and 12-0 Indiana still get a bye? Big10 could be set up to a guaranteed get 2 byes.
KCup17
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Probably. I don't see a #2 Indy dropping below 4 unless they get absolutely embarrassed. OSU is pretty much locked in as a top 4
jeffdjohnson
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Yes, both OSU and Indiana will get a bye. If Tech wins out I expect they get a bye. If A&M wins out they get a bye. If Georgia wins out they get a bye. If Alabama wins the SEC then they probably get a bye, that could get weird though.
jeffdjohnson
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If A&M beats Texas then I think the worst case is a 5 seed. Which wouldn't be that bad, you would be hosting James Madison. If Texas wins then I think the best case is a 5 seed. Probably worst is 7 seed. If it comes down to it I think A&Ms resume compares well versus 1 loss Oregon or 1 loss Ole Miss. But who knows.
Onionman
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jeffdjohnson said:

If A&M beats Texas then I think the worst case is a 5 seed. Which wouldn't be that bad, you would be hosting James Madison. If Texas wins then I think the best case is a 5 seed. Probably worst is 7 seed. If it comes down to it I think A&Ms resume compares well versus 1 loss Oregon or 1 loss Ole Miss. But who knows.

If A&M beats sips should have a top 4 seed.

We will have more wins than any other team except OSU & Indiana.
Iraq2xVeteran
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Yes, both Ohio State and Indiana will get a first round bye. Assuming the favorites win their regular season finales and their conference championship games:

1. 13-0 Big 10 Champion Ohio State
2. 13-0 SEC Champion Texas A&M
3. 12-1 Big 12 Champion Texas Tech
4. 12-1 Big 10 Runner-up Indiana

If we lose the SEC Championship Game, the No. 4 seed will probably go to Indiana instead of us.

1. 13-0 Big 10 Champion Ohio State
2. 12-1 Big 12 Champion Texas Tech
3. 11-2 SEC Champion Alabama
4. 12-1 Big 10 Runner-up Indiana
5. 12-1 SEC Runner-up Texas A&M
Brian Earl Spilner
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Huh? If we beat Texas we're 2-3. How would we even drop to 5?
W
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dropping to the 7-seed probably means a rematch with Notre Dame
JDCAG (NOT Colin)
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If A&M makes the championship game at 12-0 and doesn't get blown out, we are 4 at worst. Osu and Indiana are both top 4 too as long as it isn't a blowout. 4 is probably Georgia if they win out and A&M wins sec. I think techs shot at a top 4 is A&M losing to tu and UGA beating bama in the champ game. Then UGA gets 2, iu/osu loser gets 3 and tech probably gets 4
DallasAg 94
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If tOSU, Indiana, and A&M are undefeated going into the CCG... they will be 1-2-3 in some order, but will remain 1-2-3.
1 - B1G winner
2 - A&M if we win. Else B1G Loser
3 - A&M if we lose. Else B1G Loser

If A&M loses to the Sips... the Sips get #3 and we miss the playoffs entirely. BAS and all.
YellowPot_97
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Huh? If we beat Texas we're 2-3. How would we even drop to 5?

Assuming OSU wins out and the Big Championship game, and tech wins out and the Big12 championship game, they are both a lock for a bye.
If we beat tu, but lose the SEC championship game, the winner of the SEC championship game gets a bye.
That leaves one bye for either the Big or SEC runner ups. Not sure how the committee would decide between Indiana and A&M. May come down to how we both look in the conference title games.
Easy solution is to not lose. I like our chances against bama, not sure how we fare against georgia.
Onionman
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So Techs 1 loss to ASU and A&M's in championship game but Tech moves ahead of us?

Give me a break, their schedule much easier than ours.
Nino Brown
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Well according to ESPN's brilliant predictor, we get the 2 seed if we beat Texas and lose SEC championship game or win after entering same info numerous times lmao.

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/cfbplayoffpredictor2025/2025-college-football-allstate-playoff-bracket-predictor
LB12Diamond
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They will drop us to 7 easily if we lose so let's not lose. Maybe 6 ahead of Ole Miss if Kiffin announces he's leaving.

If we win SEC, we will be the 1 or 2 seed.

If we lose the SEC champ game, depends on who we play.

Bama and we might drop to 5.
Georgia and I think no lower than 4.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Onionman said:

So Techs 1 loss to ASU and A&M's in championship game but Tech moves ahead of us?

Give me a break, their schedule much easier than ours.


Exactly. There is no world where they put Tceh ahead of us with our loss in the SECCG.
threeanout
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If Bama wins the SECCG, they are not going to make some type of Carl Lewis long jump from #10 and end up # 4, especially if OU knocks off LSU next weekend IMO.

13-0 we are # 2 seed (100%). Probably play Ole Miss in Sugar.

11-1, I think we are #6 or #7 seed. There is a huge difference in these two seeds. As a 6 seed we would play at home vs ACC champ (Virginia, SMU or Pitt), as a 7 seed we would play at home vs (Alabama, Miami, BYU, Utah, or even Notre Dame). If we win as a 6 seed, I think we end up in the Cotton vs Indiana (Georgia as SEC champ) or Sugar vs Tech (Bama as SEC champ). Win as a 7 seed, I think we play in Cotton vs Indiana (Bama as SEC champ) or Sugar vs Georgia (Georgia as SEC champ).

12-1 gets interesting. If Bama is SEC champ, I don't see them with a bye. I think we would fall to # 5 with top four being Big 10 champ, Big 10 runnerup, Tech, and Georgia. If Georgia is SEC champ, I think we fall to four behind Big 10 champ, Georgia, and Big 10 runnerup. Tech stays at 5. With Bama as SEC champ, we would play Georgia in Orange Bowl and with Georgia as SEC champ we would play Tech in Orange or Cotton.
halfastros81
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There are still too many scenarios possible to reasonably guess on the four bye teams. We can kiss a bye goodbye if we don't beat tu tho imo.

Oh St still has their kryptonite game vs Michigan which could impact things as well among other possibilities. Oh St may need to lose twice tho to lose a bye spot . Check that , if they lose to Michigan they won't make the B10CCG . I wouldn't be surprised to see them get a bye if they lose a close game to Michigan
Who?mikejones!
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HJack20 said:

Hypothetical: Does the loser of 12-0 OSU and 12-0 Indiana still get a bye? Big10 could be set up to a guaranteed get 2 byes.


Yes. If Indiana loses they should drop out of the top 4, but they wont.

If we lose the ccg we will drop out of the top 4 because the media has set the narrative of schedule sucks. Even though both Indiana and osu have pathetically weak schedules, they wont drop.

Its why it matters where youre ranked
MaroonStain
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Either way, I am mentally prepping to play 3 more SEC games before this season is complete.
Im Gipper
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Who?mikejones! said:

HJack20 said:

Hypothetical: Does the loser of 12-0 OSU and 12-0 Indiana still get a bye? Big10 could be set up to a guaranteed get 2 byes.


Yes. If Indiana loses they should drop out of the top 4, but they wont.

If we lose the ccg we will drop out of the top 4 because the media has set the narrative of schedule sucks. Even though both Indiana and osu have pathetically weak schedules, they wont drop.

Its why it matters where youre ranked



You are just wrong and eaten up with BAS

Big 10 or SEC conference championship loser at 12-1 is getting a bye. Simple as that.

I'm Gipper
Who?mikejones!
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I disagree. I dont have bas, but thanks.
YellowPot_97
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Onionman said:

So Techs 1 loss to ASU and A&M's in championship game but Tech moves ahead of us?

Give me a break, their schedule much easier than ours.


Exactly. There is no world where they put Tceh ahead of us with our loss in the SECCG.

A 12-1 conference champ will get the bye ahead of a 12-1 conference runner up.
Who?mikejones!
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YellowPot_97 said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

Onionman said:

So Techs 1 loss to ASU and A&M's in championship game but Tech moves ahead of us?

Give me a break, their schedule much easier than ours.


Exactly. There is no world where they put Tceh ahead of us with our loss in the SECCG.

A 12-1 conference champ will get the bye ahead of a 12-1 conference runner up.


The committee will do what it damn well please with whatever justification it needs to create to do so.

Rhodes said previously losing a ccg shouldn't be a punishment for a team. In theory, other than an upset by a team otherwise not getting into the tournament, the rankings should remain the same pre and post ccg.


But thats not how the committee wants it. They'll do what they please
amercer
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We are in the playoffs. But lose and we aren't getting a buy.

Lose to texas and we will host a tough game. Lose in the SEC title game and we will host an easier opponent.
90ags
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Lose to tu and we will drop like a rock…3 spots should be the true reduction, but committee and pundits waiting to pounce and punish as it's actually quite amazing how many non A&M fans think we are a facade.

We'll drop below UGA, Ducks, Ole Miss, ttu, but they will consider 2 loss teams who in theory played tougher sched (subjective perception used by too many). Committee already using eye test theory and many are loving OU at the moment vs sched they've won against.

They beat UM, TN, Bama, Mizzou and handled USCe better than what we did. Lost to a top ranked Ole Miss and tu was ranked higher at the time.

Essentially why tu is a must win and more important for CFP standings and position than anything else.
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MaroonStain
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Top tier doomer post
Cromagnum
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jeffdjohnson said:

If A&M beats Texas then I think the worst case is a 5 seed. Which wouldn't be that bad, you would be hosting James Madison. If Texas wins then I think the best case is a 5 seed. Probably worst is 7 seed. If it comes down to it I think A&Ms resume compares well versus 1 loss Oregon or 1 loss Ole Miss. But who knows.


If we beat Texas and aren't a top 4 seed there will be riots.
threeanout
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Bama winning the SECCG could throw things into a wrinkle. If they beat us, I could see them dropping us from #3 to #5. If we lose to Georgia then I think we drop to # 4.

A Bama win in SECCG against us, my final poll would be:

1) Big 10 Cham
2) Big 10 Runner Up or Georgia
3) Big 10 Runner Up or Georgia
4) Tech (if 12-1)
5) Ags
6) Oregon
7) Alabama
8) Ole Miss
9) OU
10) Notre Dame
11) ACC champ
12) G5 School

Last year the most any conference champion moved up was Georgia from # 5 to # 2 (Arizona St. went from 15-12). The most any conference loser dropped was SMU from # 8 to # 10.
Who?mikejones!
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Its hard because the committee says a ccg will not be used for punishment.....

But, we all know what they'll really do.

Oh, and when we beat another top 15 team on their field, we should jump Indiana. But, we knew we wont
Muy
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jeffdjohnson said:

If A&M beats Texas then I think the worst case is a 5 seed. Which wouldn't be that bad, you would be hosting James Madison. If Texas wins then I think the best case is a 5 seed. Probably worst is 7 seed. If it comes down to it I think A&Ms resume compares well versus 1 loss Oregon or 1 loss Ole Miss. But who knows.


What?! Do you mean if we beat tu and lose in the SECC?
threeanout
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Who?mikejones! said:

Its hard because the committee says a ccg will not be used for punishment.....

But, we all know what they'll really do.

Oh, and we we beat another top 15 team on their field, we should jump Indiana. But, we knew we wont

Yea, I agree. I guess they could look at it and say dropping to # 5 and playing a home first round game against Tulane or North Texas is not that big a punishment. Whether we are # 4 or # 5 seed we would play the same team in the
quarter's as long as the 4-seed is not upset by the 12-seed.

SMU losing their CG last year dropped them 2 slots and cost them a home playoff game.
MaroonStain
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I'll take G5 at Kyle Field then tceh at neutral in quarterfinals for LFG!.
jeffdjohnson
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Regardless of how it shakes out you just want to avoid Ohio State, Notre Dame, Georgia, and Bama as long as possible. Ideally you get a bye or the 5th seed and play Tech in round 2, then Indiana in round 3. That is the best chance to a title. Should be OK as long as you are seeded 6th or better.
Rectitude
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Aren't we assured that losing a CCG will not affect your standing for playoffs? This is the argument to not do away with the CCG's. If a CCG loser gets moved down what is the advantage of even playing the CCG?

BTW, I think you might be generally correct that a CCG loss can move a team down the ladder but this is not what was suggested by the committee.is approving this setup.
Who?mikejones!
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They'll use whatever excuse they need to justify their final desired positions and entries.

Rhodes said the ccg is not supposed to harm and otherwise would be qualified team, but also said if they get blown out it might effect their spot
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