If the aggies lose to texas to finish 11-1 and miss the title game, will they still get a bye? I would think that means we are headed to a round 1 home playoff game

if the aggies finish 12-0 and lose to Alabama in the CG, do we still get a bye? I would think we would still get a bye

if Texas finishes 9-3 with a win over georgia, do they get in? I would think not be because their last game would be a loss, and vandy sneaks in at 10-2 even with a head to head win against vandy

if Texas finishes 9-3 with a win over the aggies do they get in? I would think yes because their last game was a win over top 3 texas a&m team

The loser of the Tech BYU game is out, correct?

The committee has to do away with conference tie-ins. Best 12 teams period.

No.... the committee signaled that the Big 12 can get two teams. Mainly due to the ACC falling.

Kozmozag said:

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The committee has to do away with conference tie-ins. Best 12 teams period.

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this will not happen.

It can't legally if you look at their incorporation docs

Bag said:

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If the aggies lose to texas to finish 11-1 and miss the title game, will they still get a bye? No I would think that means we are headed to a round 1 home playoff game Agree

if the aggies finish 12-0 and lose to Alabama in the CG, do we still get a bye? Probably, but relative score differential compared to Georgia might come into play if we get blown out. I would think we would still get a bye

if Texas finishes 9-3 with a win over georgia, do they get in? They would need a lot of help, and the committee ranking Notre Dame and so many B12 teams so highly is a bad sign for the SEC to get a fifth team. I would think not be because their last game would be a loss, and vandy sneaks in at 10-2 even with a head to head win against vandy

if Texas finishes 9-3 with a win over the aggies do they get in? I would think yes because their last game was a win over top 3 texas a&m team Similar to previous case, not sure there is much difference in a win over a #5 Georgia team and a #3 Texas A&M team.

The loser of the Tech BYU game is out, correct? More likely than not, but the committee gave the whole conference some wiggle room with 3 teams in the top 13. If BYU loses close and somehow misses the conference championship game, they are probably still in the conversation.

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The loser of the Tech BYU game is out, correct? More likely than not, but the committee gave the whole conference some wiggle room with 3 teams in the top 13. If BYU loses close and somehow misses the conference championship game, they are probably still in the conversation.

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If BYU loses, the only way they miss the conference championship game is to lose another game. at 10-2, they are out.

the loser of BYU/Tech is not out.

BYU at 11-1, then lose in conference championship game has a good shot to make the playoff.

BMX Bandit said:

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Kozmozag said:

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The committee has to do away with conference tie-ins. Best 12 teams period.

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this will not happen.

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I agree it won't happen but seems silly that a team that isn't ranked in the Top 25 in week 10 of the College football season is guaranteed to make the College football playoff. Not to mention the team that will probably make it (Memphis) lost to UAB which is one of the worst teams in college football this year.

I guess the good news is if we do drop a game, maybe we can drop to no worse than 5th and get a home game against the 12 seed.

Kozmozag said:

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The committee has to do away with conference tie-ins. Best 12 teams period.

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Vehemently disagree. Otherwise it becomes more of a popularity contest based solely on polls.

Look at NFL. Look at UIL, for that matter. Conference tie-ins make the whole season, and the playoffs, better. Contrary to a few of you elitists, college football will not be better if you only have BIG and SEC playing each other all the time.

Kozmozag said:

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The committee has to do away with conference tie-ins. Best 12 teams period.

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Honestly, I don't hate it as long as the conference tie-ins don't automatically award a bye, as was the case last year.

The variety is fun, and it isn't like the 12th-ranked team has a shot at winning it anyway in most scenarios.

It would be sooooo funny if texas finished ranked 12 and was left out for Memphis or UNT.

BCS was a way better system than the playoff. I will not be taking any questions at this time.

King of the Dairy Queen said:

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BCS was a way better system than the playoff. I will not be taking any questions at this time.

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Yeah, they should just do a BCS model for the 12-team playoff.

The committee crap is so stupid and inconsistent.

Zachary Klement said:

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King of the Dairy Queen said:

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BCS was a way better system than the playoff. I will not be taking any questions at this time.

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Yeah, they should just do a BCS model for the 12-team playoff.

The committee crap is so stupid and inconsistent.

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Is it a given that if we lose to tu, we do not go to the SEC championship game? Assuming Alabama wins out, how is it decided who the second team is?

BDogg99 said:

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Is it a given that if we lose to tu, we do not go to the SEC championship game? Assuming Alabama wins out, how is it decided who the second team is?

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every scenario I have seen, assuming bama wins out (which I think is a big assumption) has us missing out the CG to either georgia or ole miss

If we go 12-0 and lose in a competitive SEC title game, we will be seeded 4 and get a bye- most models give that like a 98% chance.

If we go 11-1 and don't make the SEC championship game, we have about 92% chance to still get a bye.

If we go 10-2, we are 98% to make playoff and 73% to host a first round game.

tu has about 70-75% of making at 9-3, and doesn't really change much if it's a win against the Ags or UGA.

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Is it a given that if we lose to tu, we do not go to the SEC championship game? Assuming Alabama wins out, how is it decided who the second team is?

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You serious Clark?

Most SEC teams have three or more SEC games still to play.

Tell me who wins these games and I might be able to answer your question:

Texas A&M @ Missouri
SC @ Texas A&M
LSU @ Alabama
OU @ Alabama
Alabama @ Auburn
Georgia @ Miss St
Texas @ Georgia
Arkansas @ Texas
Florida @ Ole Miss
Ole Miss @ Miss St

Thanks, Cousin Eddie. I get there are multiple games left to play. I never thought of that.

Said another way, my question is if we, Georgia and Ole Miss all end with one conference loss, how is it decided who plays Alabama (assuming Alabama wins out)?

Kozmozag said:

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The committee has to do away with conference tie-ins. Best 12 teams period.

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Either give us the best 12 teams regardless of conference or assign slots to conferences. For example, SEC and Big 10 are guaranteed the top 4 spots by their own standings. ACC gets 1 or 2, Big 12 gets 1 or 2. Give one slot to the top rated non P4 conference champ I guess. Force ND to the B1G

I'd prefer to just go to 16 teams, force ND to the B1G. 5 Teams to the SEC, 5 to the B1G, 2 from the ACC, 2 from the B12. Let the Pac and the MWC play each other and the MAC play the Sun Belt on conference championship weekend to earn the last 2 spots.

No need for conference championship games but we know they don't want to lose that money, so SEC teams 4-7 can play for the conference's last 2 spots. Big 12 could let teams 1-4 play for their own playoff spots.

If the top 4 teams win out. Those 4 teams will stay in the top 4. All 4 will be undefeated in regular season conference games.

They are not going to penalize any of them for playing in the champ game.

The two conference champs will be 1-2. The two runner ups will be seeds 3-4.

Pate and others already believe this will occur, rightfully so.

The only way this does not happen is if BYU goes undefeated and maybe bumps the 4 seed to the 5. Which is fine as well. Beat Memphis at home and then BYU to get to the semis.

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BDogg99 said:

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Is it a given that if we lose to tu, we do not go to the SEC championship game? Assuming Alabama wins out, how is it decided who the second team is?

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You serious Clark?

Most SEC teams have three or more SEC games still to play.

Tell me who wins these games and I might be able to answer your question:

Texas A&M @ Missouri
SC @ Texas A&M
LSU @ Alabama
OU @ Alabama
Alabama @ Auburn
Georgia @ Miss St
Texas @ Georgia
Arkansas @ Texas
Florida @ Ole Miss
Ole Miss @ Miss St

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Texas A&M @ Missouri - TEXAS AGGIES
SC @ Texas A&M - TEXAS AGGIES
LSU @ Alabama - bammer
OU @ Alabama - bammer
Alabama @ Auburn - bammer
Georgia @ Miss St - dawgs
Texas @ Georgia - dawgs
Arkansas @ Texas - hogs
Florida @ Ole Miss - rebels
Ole Miss @ Miss St - rebels

so Texas loses out?

hmmm

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Thanks, Cousin Eddie. I get there are multiple games left to play. I never thought of that.

Said another way, my question is if we, Georgia and Ole Miss all end with one conference loss, how is it decided who plays Alabama (assuming Alabama wins out)?

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the highest ranked team in the CFP rankings goes.

BDogg99 said:

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Thanks, Cousin Eddie. I get there are multiple games left to play. I never thought of that.

Said another way, my question is if we, Georgia and Ole Miss all end with one conference loss, how is it decided who plays Alabama (assuming Alabama wins out)?

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1. Alabama (8 - 0)

2. Georgia (7 - 1)
Above Ole Miss and Texas A&M based on conference opponent win percentage (0.5).

3. Ole Miss (7 - 1)
With Texas A&M, below Georgia based on conference opponent win percentage (0.3438).
Above Texas A&M based on conference opponent win percentage (0.3438).

4. Texas A&M (7 - 1)
With Ole Miss, below Georgia based on conference opponent win percentage (0.3125).
Below Ole Miss based on conference opponent win percentage (0.3125).

https://bball.notnothing.net/sec.php?sport=fb

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so Texas loses out?

hmmm

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Yes. Will I place a wager? No

EKG1996 said:

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BDogg99 said:

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Is it a given that if we lose to tu, we do not go to the SEC championship game? Assuming Alabama wins out, how is it decided who the second team is?

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You serious Clark?

Most SEC teams have three or more SEC games still to play.

Tell me who wins these games and I might be able to answer your question:

Texas A&M @ Missouri A&M
SC @ Texas A&M A&M
LSU @ Alabama LSU
OU @ Alabama Alabama
Alabama @ Auburn Auburn
Georgia @ Miss St Miss St
Texas @ Georgia Texas
Arkansas @ Texas Arkansas
Florida @ Ole Miss Florida
Ole Miss @ Miss St Miss St

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Conference losses

A&M - Undefeated
Alabama - 2 losses
Georgia - 3 losses
Texas - 3 losses
Ole Miss - 3 losses
Missouri - 3-4 losses
Vandy - 3 losses
OU - 4 losses

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The loser of the Tech BYU game is out, correct? More likely than not, but the committee gave the whole conference some wiggle room with 3 teams in the top 13. If BYU loses close and somehow misses the conference championship game, they are probably still in the conversation.

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If BYU loses, the only way they miss the conference championship game is to lose another game. at 10-2, they are out.

the loser of BYU/Tech is not out.

BYU at 11-1, then lose in conference championship game has a good shot to make the playoff.

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So if tech loses to byu to pick up a 2nd loss you still think they can get in?

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So if tech loses to byu to pick up a 2nd loss you still think they can get in?

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as big 12 winner is their only real shot at that point.

Texas is first or second out if ACC and Memphis/AAC champ have to be auto-seeded, and they do. I predict there will be major SEC pressure to change the rules so that champs must be top15 or so in the last pre-championship week to be eligible (otherwise the committee will just start ranking champs higher on purpose). The B1G will join this if Michigan is seeded higher than both of those champions in the end.

We missed the ideal scenario where we tied at 8-0 SEC and ended up not going to Atlanta based on in-conference SOS. No, I'm not crazy. That would have resulted in at worse an extra week of rest prior to a home first-round game, and at best a skip of the SECCG _AND_ a first-round bye as a four- or three-seed. Rest is good.

12-0 followed by a SECCG loss is probably a five-seed if there is an undefeated team out there not named tOSU or IU. BYU gets a four-seed at 13-0. B1G loser is likely a three-seed unless they look like dog crap. SEC champ is a two seed no matter who wins.

If it is championship week and BYU already has a loss, we get a four-seed as the SECCG runner-up unless we get motorboated. No way they will elevate Ole Miss ahead of us simply because we lose to Bama, for instance. Teams are not supposed to be punished simply for playing in their conference championships.

I think the SEC expects 5 teams in. But there are scenarios that would result in only 4 teams in, and I think the bargaining position for change is low coming off a B10 National Champion last year.

The SEC needs post season Ws, especially in the final game, to justify a change to have 5 teams in the playoff.