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Does a new OC next season throw a monkey wrench into our progress?

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jonb02
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I think it's pretty obvious that Klein is going to be a HC next season, most likely at Okie lite. So where does that leave us at OC? Where does that leave Marcel's development and our entire offense? Does a new OC mean a completely new offensive scheme? Our coaches are usually not poached, they're fired so this appears to be new territory for us.
vander54
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BAS? Assumption? Or real evidence he will be leaving?
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jonb02
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https://www.si.com/college/tamu/football/texas-am-collin-klein-name-to-watch-potential-big-12-coaching-search
a.froman
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I think how our OL performs and who we have returning will be more important then the play caller. Will be interesting to see what draft grade Conception gets
NoahAg
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I don't think it'll be difficult to replace Klein.
vander54
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A watchlist means nothing.
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Frank Grimes
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Is Spav available? Maybe Mazzone?
greg.w.h
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I think Elko understands the offense well enough to promote or hire in a replacement.

I'll spend zero seconds this year talking about this because it ain't happened.
aggiebones
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Manziel will take over and turn this and everything else loose. Hide the women and children.
Athanasius
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I'm curious as to how the new structuring of College sports, like NIL, conference consolidation, etc. will affect coaching tiers.

Is it better to be a OC at a major school in a major conference with beaucoup NIL than to be a HC at another lesser school?

I doubt it, but am curious.
halfastros81
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Why not just enjoy this season and discuss it when something tangible actually happens after the season?
Pichael Thompson
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Kliff did Just fine his first year here

TMF
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He should and likely will wait for a better job. They are broke with no NIL.
Who?mikejones!
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Okie st would be a horrible decision for any aspiring head coach candidate
ElephantRider
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Frank Grimes said:

Is Spav available? Maybe Mazzone?

NZONE's revenge
ElephantRider
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Who?mikejones! said:

Okie st would be a horrible decision for any aspiring head coach candidate

They are circling the drain.
Hank the Grifter
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We have a "Fire Colin Klein" topic still on the first page here.

I love this website.
AgBandsman
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"...typically not poached"?

Elko was poached from us....but it was all part of our master plan....
AggieDub04
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Athanasius said:

I'm curious as to how the new structuring of College sports, like NIL, conference consolidation, etc. will affect coaching tiers.

Is it better to be a OC at a major school in a major conference with beaucoup NIL than to be a HC at another lesser school?

I doubt it, but am curious.

With the current economics of the sport the answer is yes. In the offseason there was a lot of talk about how little coordinator turnover there was and it was all tied to NIL for two reasons.

1 - Now that schools have to come up with $20M to pay players they are far less likely to pay off a coach so fewer opportunities.

2 - With the chasm between haves and have nots popping up within conferences (Big 12) there are a lot of jobs where you will just be outclassed on the field regularly talent wise. Ten years ago a coach could spend 3 years at a school like KSU, built up a team, have a good season and move on. Now you can't build because good players get poached so unless you go to a program that can afford to pull in players you're better off waiting on a different job.
25Lighters
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Frank Grimes said:

Is Spav available? Maybe Mazzone?


You shut your ***** mouth!
TX_Aggie37
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Klein will probably be here til Kansas State comes calling
fightinag
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If he leaves......do what it takes to bring Kliff back
NEXT YEAR IS HERE.......again
mortal
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25Lighters said:

Frank Grimes said:

Is Spav available? Maybe Mazzone?


You shut your ***** mouth!

Sherman?
lil_frog8
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I can see Napier after Florida lets him go.
TexasAGGIEinAR
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The Pokes are gonna hire Zac Robinson from the Falcons. There's a large Poke contingency up here and they all seem to think it's a foregone conclusion.
Pumpkinhead
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jonb02 said:

I think it's pretty obvious that Klein is going to be a HC next season, most likely at Okie lite. So where does that leave us at OC? Where does that leave Marcel's development and our entire offense? Does a new OC mean a completely new offensive scheme? Our coaches are usually not poached, they're fired so this appears to be new territory for us.

Why worry about coaches getting poached until this season ends?

Scenario A: A&M disappoints these last 7 games to another 8-4 season. Klein isn't going to get 'poached'. You'll instead have threads probably on here wanting to fire Klein. Good riddence.

Scenario B: A&M has a really good year going at least 1-2 and making the playoffs and Klein did such a great job 'wowing' everybody the ENTIRE season that he might even get 'poached'.


Who the f*** knows. These sort of threads seem pointless until mid-December at the earliest.
Aggie Dad 26
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NoahAg said:

I don't think it'll be difficult to replace Klein.

Elaborate please. Are you insinuating thats hes not very good or that hiring someone would be easy?

I'll go on record and say that I think Klein is our best OC since Kliff
Pumpkinhead
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Aggie Dad 26 said:

NoahAg said:

I don't think it'll be difficult to replace Klein.

Elaborate please. Are you insinuating thats hes not very good or that hiring someone would be easy?

I'll go on record and say that I think Klein is our best OC since Kliff

Against Texas last season, after Klein tried to run it four straight times right up the middle - same play over and over again - against an elite longhorn defensive line only to get stuffed, lots of folks were off the Klein bandwagon. You can go from mud to stud then back to mud pretty quick in that business.
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lil_frog8 said:

I can see Napier after Florida lets him go.

I'm fine with our future as being the new Saban's Elko's Home for Wayward Head Coaches.
Aggie Dad 26
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Pumpkinhead said:

Aggie Dad 26 said:

NoahAg said:

I don't think it'll be difficult to replace Klein.

Elaborate please. Are you insinuating thats hes not very good or that hiring someone would be easy?

I'll go on record and say that I think Klein is our best OC since Kliff

Against Texas last season, after Klein tried to run it four straight times right up the middle - same play over and over again - against an elite longhorn defensive line only to get stuffed, lots of folks were off the Klein bandwagon. You can go from mud to stud then back to mud pretty quick in that business.


Going into that 4 play series, 80% of texags would have said "run the ball 4 times" because you're bound to get it into the endzone.... right?
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cevans_40
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NoahAg said:

I don't think it'll be difficult to replace Klein.

Well you are most likely incorrect.
halfastros81
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That's interesting. Robinson won't be able to fix the fundamental problem they have tho… not enough $. When Mullet had good players they were always competitive … when he lost them they weren't.

Klein also wouldn't fix that issue. I dunno who could to be honest short of resurrecting Pickens or someone like him
Jarrin Jay
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Why is it pretty obvious?

I would argue it's not at all. aTm is his first real big-time job, he needs to stay a few more years and learn under Elko before he take a HC job IMHO.

And he would he stupid to take the OSU job. I don't think he's stupid but a 5 year contract at $4-$5 mill. + can override ALOT of rational thinking, so who knows.
Aggie Dad 26
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Jarrin Jay said:

Why is it pretty obvious?

I would argue it's not at all. aTm is his first real big-time job, he needs to stay a few more years and learn under Elko before he take a HC job IMHO.

And he would he stupid to take the OSU job. I don't think he's stupid but a 5 year contract at $4-$5 mill. + can override ALOT of rational thinking, so who knows.

Why stupid? He's young. He could go to OSU, make a healthy pay raise, fail and get fired after 3 seasons and up back in the SEC as a OC.

Or have some success and move to a bigger program as a HC. The narrative here is that if he ends up at OSU its an auto fail. Why?
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vander54
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NIL or lack there of. Their NIL died with Pickens.
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