fightinag said:

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7-5 looking team

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Bunk said 8-4

Online and tackling were my big concerns from being at the game.

IslanderAg04 said:

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Marcel is fine. It's the 1st game of the season. 75% completion percentage, 289 yards, 4 Tuddys. If there's an issue, it's the non existent running game, with 3 stud RB's.

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This. I'm far more concerned about the inability to run the ball.

This team will not be able to run the ball when our opponents know they don't need to worry about Reed hurting them through the air.

fla_agfan said:

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He is just too inaccurate.

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He was pretty accurate tonight except for a few deep balls, I thought. He was way more accurate than I remember in the mid-range from last year. Needs to protect himself though from injury, and also dive for the 1st down or goal-line if it's 3rd down or later.

A lot of scrutiny on the deep balls, did y'all see the cross wind they were contending with? Obviously when there is no one within a zip code you should just try to get it somewhere close. But see the way the wind took that throw from mccown 30 yards out of bounds? Any
Throw with loft was going to be a wild card and not a good judge of accuracy

ElephantRider said:

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He's not a P5 starting QB

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I've been screaming this since late last season.

Reed is a really fun qb at Sam, a pretty average qb at Houston, and a below average qb in the SEC. He'll put up several games of spectacular against overmatched opponents, will have 1-2 surprise games against decent opponents, but will get consumed completely by top end opponents. Reed's accuracy is incredibly inconsistent (he was spraying everywhere last night), his reads are slow, he sees ghosts and escapes out-and-to-the-right over and over, and his vaunted running ability is far, FAR overrated bc he goes down with the brush of a fingernail, and he's not actually fast (very quick, yes!).

He threw at least two last night that Tex, Auburn, ND, LSU, UF pick.

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ElephantRider said:

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He's not a P5 starting QB

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I've been screaming this since late last season.

Reed is a really fun qb at Sam, a pretty average qb at Houston, and a below average qb in the SEC. He'll put up several games of spectacular against overmatched opponents, will have 1-2 surprise games against decent opponents, but will get consumed completely by top end opponents. Reed's accuracy is incredibly inconsistent (he was spraying everywhere last night), his reads are slow, he sees ghosts and escapes out-and-to-the-right over and over, and his vaunted running ability is far, FAR overrated bc he goes down with the brush of a fingernail, and he's not actually fast (very quick, yes!).

He threw at least two last night that Tex, Auburn, ND, LSU, UF pick.

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You must have really hated Conner. SFA was a tough game for him

farmersfight said:

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but according to billy and texags, he is the second coming of Christ and JFF.

complete garbage hype and with a follow up of a steaming turd.

glad its not my money

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This same "Billy" that thought we were going to hire Stoops, right???

ahpetty33 said:

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A lot of scrutiny on the deep balls, did y'all see the cross wind they were contending with? Obviously when there is no one within a zip code you should just try to get it somewhere close. But see the way the wind took that throw from mccown 30 yards out of bounds? Any
Throw with loft was going to be a wild card and not a good judge of accuracy

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No. They expect 100% accuracy and all passes thrown at least 30 yards in the air perfectly no matter the conditions. They are all Uncle Rico's.

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IslanderAg04 said:

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Marcel is fine. It's the 1st game of the season. 75% completion percentage, 289 yards, 4 Tuddys. If there's an issue, it's the non existent running game, with 3 stud RB's.

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This. I'm far more concerned about the inability to run the ball.

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Moss coming off major knee injury in the later half of last season - I almost guarantee he is not yet what he was before the injury - despite what Elko has said. Owens has NEVER shown us anything that would lead me to believe he is a stud RB. Daniels is a good RB, but nothing special.

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ahpetty33 said:

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A lot of scrutiny on the deep balls, did y'all see the cross wind they were contending with? Obviously when there is no one within a zip code you should just try to get it somewhere close. But see the way the wind took that throw from mccown 30 yards out of bounds? Any
Throw with loft was going to be a wild card and not a good judge of accuracy

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No. They expect 100% accuracy and all passes thrown at least 30 yards in the air perfectly no matter the conditions. They are all Uncle Rico's.

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Perception of any QB1 at A&M is going to be tough, because if they aren't performing like their fondest memories of JFF, they're gonna be seen as sub-par

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antman8504 said:

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We have much bigger problems. He has been solid today. We are being outrushed 177 to 32 right now.

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We do have bigger problems and that is scary… Our D looks like dog balls

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You spend a lot of time looking at dog balls, do you?

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IslanderAg04 said:

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Marcel is fine. It's the 1st game of the season. 75% completion percentage, 289 yards, 4 Tuddys. If there's an issue, it's the non existent running game, with 3 stud RB's.

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This. I'm far more concerned about the inability to run the ball.

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I don't think we were overly concerned with trying to establish a ground game first last night.
I think they were trying to continue tuning up Reed with more passing game reps to further his development before the bigger games get here.

This is dumb(the quoted comments). He has missed deep balls when there was no wind. We don't even attempt to stretch the field because the staff knows he is inaccurate past 20yds. We will have difficulty running the ball and completing the short passes against SEC teams, whom know he can't stretch the field.
NONE OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH JFF.

His play stepping out of bounds short of a first down was as bad as it gets, you want the money the hype all that bs, make a fu%%ing play. Know the situation and that was pathetic.

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_mpaul said:

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IslanderAg04 said:

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Marcel is fine. It's the 1st game of the season. 75% completion percentage, 289 yards, 4 Tuddys. If there's an issue, it's the non existent running game, with 3 stud RB's.

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This. I'm far more concerned about the inability to run the ball.

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I don't think we were overly concerned with trying to establish a ground game first last night.
I think they were trying to continue tuning up Reed with more passing game reps to further his development before the bigger games get here.

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That's my guess as well. I thought Reed looked much better in the pocket and read the field much better. We finally have weapons receiving now so it looks promising. I am going to wait to see more begore judging our running game.

Elko did say we had plenty of run plays called but now utsa defended us forced the RPO's into pass plays instead. Called the entire game on the front lines "choppy" due to the style of the game and UTSA strategy. Expecting a lot more running next week.

We. can win with him if Klein pulls his head out of …. and goes back to his KSU read option offense. We ran the ball 23 times against UTSA, that's unacceptable. From a rushing perspective our QB and top 2 RB combo is as strong as any team in P5.

I'll give Klein benefit of the doubt and maybe he wanted to have in game passing situations against an inferior opponent. Against strong competition this team has to be run dominant while complimenting by getting the ball in space to the three elite YAC WR.

IslanderAg04 said:

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Tuddys

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"Tuddys"

Cringe.

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IslanderAg04 said:

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Tuddys

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"Tuddys"

Cringe.

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Yeah, I don't get that term. Maybe it makes me old. It's ultimate cringe.

There was a second half drive where Reed got a delay of game, at home….. why not be the leader and call your own play since you know the offense better than anyone on the field. Or call a timeout dude, this was a cupcake game. This kind of hesitant behavior is what will lose those close sec games. I want to see a more assertive and confident Reed!

Escobars army said:

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We. can win with him if Klein pulls his head out of …. and goes back to his KSU read option offense. We ran the ball 23 times against UTSA, that's unacceptable. From a rushing perspective our QB and top 2 RB combo is as strong as any team in P5.

I'll give Klein benefit of the doubt and maybe he wanted to have in game passing situations against an inferior opponent. Against strong competition this team has to be run dominant while complimenting by getting the ball in space to the three elite YAC WR.

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After watching the games - especially the 1st half - wasn't it obvious they went into this game with the plan to work on the passing game and getting the new receivers into the action. You could tell there was just not an emphasis on getting the running game going. Sure they had to run it some, but that was obviously not the focus last night.

romanagg11 said:

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There was a second half drive where Reed got a delay of game, at home….. why not be the leader and call your own play since you know the offense better than anyone on the field. Or call a timeout dude, this was a cupcake game. This kind of hesitant behavior is what will lose those close sec games. I want to see a more assertive and confident Reed!

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That is a small issue for game 1. Now if he's still doing it later in the season major issuesn

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Escobars army said:

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We. can win with him if Klein pulls his head out of …. and goes back to his KSU read option offense. We ran the ball 23 times against UTSA, that's unacceptable. From a rushing perspective our QB and top 2 RB combo is as strong as any team in P5.

I'll give Klein benefit of the doubt and maybe he wanted to have in game passing situations against an inferior opponent. Against strong competition this team has to be run dominant while complimenting by getting the ball in space to the three elite YAC WR.

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After watching the games - especially the 1st half - wasn't it obvious they went into this game with the plan to work on the passing game and getting the new receivers into the action. You could tell there was just not an emphasis on getting the running game going. Sure they had to run it some, but that was obviously not the focus last night.

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Both Elko and Reed said that they came out with a defense they had no film on and didnt expect. That they had a lot of guys in the box.

It's clear to me Traylor didn't want us to get our ground game going. I don't think we intended to work on the pass game. It's what the defense gave us. And it took a little bit to adjust and get timing down. Once we did, we were fine.

Now do I ever again want to hear that a defense came out with something we didn't expect? No. That better be the only time. To me, that's a Klein issue.

They returned 0 starters on defense. We probably will never see that again..

vander54 said:

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They returned 0 starters on defense. We probably will never see that again..

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Exactly. They were sloppy and made a ton of mistakes. Arch had guys routinely open and couldn't even come close. You can maybe say he was too hyped in a loud environment. But I saw what was common knowledge.. that he's not a high level QB able to read defenses AND deliver the ball well enough to win big games. As of now, he's still proven literally nothing.

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A. G. Pennypacker said:

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Escobars army said:

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We. can win with him if Klein pulls his head out of …. and goes back to his KSU read option offense. We ran the ball 23 times against UTSA, that's unacceptable. From a rushing perspective our QB and top 2 RB combo is as strong as any team in P5.

I'll give Klein benefit of the doubt and maybe he wanted to have in game passing situations against an inferior opponent. Against strong competition this team has to be run dominant while complimenting by getting the ball in space to the three elite YAC WR.

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After watching the games - especially the 1st half - wasn't it obvious they went into this game with the plan to work on the passing game and getting the new receivers into the action. You could tell there was just not an emphasis on getting the running game going. Sure they had to run it some, but that was obviously not the focus last night.

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Both Elko and Reed said that they came out with a defense they had no film on and didnt expect. That they had a lot of guys in the box.

It's clear to me Traylor didn't want us to get our ground game going. I don't think we intended to work on the pass game. It's what the defense gave us. And it took a little bit to adjust and get timing down. Once we did, we were fine.

Now do I ever again want to hear that a defense came out with something we didn't expect? No. That better be the only time. To me, that's a Klein issue.

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There was not a single starter returning on D for UTSA. So yeah, kind of hard to predict what style of D they would run. I remember Elko talking about it on Friday - that they had to round up film from all the teams where these players transferred from to evaluate them. If UTSA came out the 1st game of the season and ran a different style D than UTSA has run in the past, you can't pin that on Klein not doing his homework.

I kind of agree with the point about them having a lot of players in the box and Klein calling plays based on what the D was giving them. But I also think they were focused on working the passing game.

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vander54 said:

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They returned 0 starters on defense. We probably will never see that again..

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Exactly. They were sloppy and made a ton of mistakes. Arch had guys routinely open and couldn't even come close. You can maybe say he was too hyped in a loud environment. But I saw what was common knowledge.. that he's not a high level QB able to read defenses AND deliver the ball well enough to win big games. As of now, he's still proven literally nothing.

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Arch had some nice throws, but a LOT of misses. The first pass out of the gate skipped off the grass at least 5 yds in front of the receiver. Very inconsistent.

Solid first game for Reed. Predictably Texags is claiming it's over for us.

Multiple plays of four or five missed tackles and extra yards gained

Reed looks better with mechanics still needs to work on footwork progressions looked better than last year. Need more touch on deep ball but was 3/6 on passes over 20 yards. But the new receivers are studs and can make Reed look better than the wr's from last year did. Decent statline but what a miss on pass to kc

Short to medium passes. Run the ball 70% of the time

For those that are bagging on Reed, what game were you watching ? He played well. Not perfect but plenty to like. Defensive front 7 is my biggest concern. Too many blown assignments . That has to be cleaned up. Not really worried about the run game . They schemed to stop the run and force Reed to beat them with his arm and that's exactly what he did.

halfastros81 said:

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For those that are bagging on Reed, what game were you watching ? He played well. Not perfect but plenty to like. Defensive front 7 is my biggest concern. Too many blown assignments . That has to be cleaned up. Not really worried about the run game . They schemed to stop the run and force Reed to beat them with his arm and that's exactly what he did.

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He missed an easy deep ball. That's all they've got.

Reed showed significant improvement on pocket presence, stepping into pocket and delivering strikes, reading the field, staying poised, going through progressions, and taking what the defense gave him. Those that can't be encouraged by what they saw in game 1, with an all-new receiver corps, probably have an agenda. Either stemming from BAS and the need to find negativity in any situation, or an anti-Reed bias largely stemming from bitterness that the guy they propped up as a savior was not able to perform at even a below-average level against power conference defenses last year. Mix in some pride.. the need to be vindicated for how they feel, and you get the illogical takes we've seen the past couple of days that fly in the face of reality.

Reed is a good quarterback getting better with time, with dynamic playmaking abilities. If you can't be excited for the potential he shows with the weapons we have, then it's going to be a long long season for you. But I'm sure they will spam this board the first time he makes a mistake.