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Hamburger Dan
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Not a popular opinion on TexAgs, but Texas is going to do whatever it takes to win. Pay out bigtime money to recruits , poach a coach or two, negative recruit, whatever it takes. Not all schools can do that, and some that can, aren't willing. They are always going to throw their "weight" around - because they can and will. Instead, of bemoaning them- it seems that following their "blueprint" would be a better option. If serious about winning a Championship.
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Tejas Ag 10 said:

surely they arent after texas fans gave us so much crap for supposedly spending 30 M


I think it's the results and cost benefit ratio more than anything that was made fun of.
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And their fans own it. It's a huge difference

When the news came out about our big spending for the 22 class a large fraction of the Aggie fanbase acted like we're above that. It was all fake news and we defended the university saying athletes choose A&M for the culture and not the money
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Gator92 said:

1876er said:

NFL salary cap is 280 million. Why is 40 million too much for college football?

Sports are lucrative in America. Why shouldn't the guys generating the revenue get some of the money?
Per the House Settlement, up to 22% of AD revenue can be "shared" as direct payments to athletes. Only NIL thing it addresses is that anything over $600 has to be reported to a new agency created by the settlement.

There is no salary cap.


You're correct. Collective bargaining will be the next (messy) battle. I believe the House judge suggested it is the next logical step, too. She knows this settlement isn't going to settle anything for very long.
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JournoAG said:

I wish people would stop engaging with the people on this site every time they complain that college football is ruined and they don't care anymore. They're posting on a college football fan site. It clearly hasn't ruined the game for them. They clearly still care. They're just whining and it has gotten really old.
yes, but a fan can still care...while also not spending money on the sport anymore

athletic departments need their fans to keep spending money on college football...lots of money
Mega Lops
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The whole thing stinks but the business models and greed which have been inserted into what used to be college football are fascinating.

The network execs (who are running things) have made a gamble that the a certain number of loyal, everyday fans who root for their school but are disgusted with the state of things can drop off the face of the earth and it won't make a difference.

Loyal Ags can turn off and tune out and as long as the matchups are good enough, other viewers not invested in Aggie success will replace lost eyeballs.

Fox and espn have made it ok for athletic departments to pay mostly functionally illiterate young men to run around on a field for a few hours because they sell the hell out of the ad time.

These athletes are vessels used by people richer than we will ever be to sell you fast food, sugar, subversive ideologies, medicines you don't need and legalized financial scams.
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we have more students. more former students. they are Just as successful in business and when take into account the numbers of former students there is no reason that they are ahead of us in dollars spent in NIL.

Plus if we were leading the country in NIL spent we'd be proud of t it instead of griping about others.

so much handwringing. It's just being upset to be upset at this point.

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Emilio Fantastico said:

1876er said:

Emilio Fantastico said:

1876er said:

NFL salary cap is 280 million. Why is 40 million too much for college football?

Sports are lucrative in America. Why shouldn't the guys generating the revenue get some of the money?
Because the NFL only has 32 teams and they are the premier league for the sport.
Just the SEC and B1G combined have more than 32 teams and several of those have very small followings.

Even if "college" football was pared down to say just 40 or so "Big/Rich" schools that wanted to participate, the fact that it would now be just an NFL minor league with no real affiliation to the schools other than the name, would cause interest to wane and TV revenue to decline. Then, you would basically be asking boosters of the school to pony up to cover the shortfall to pay players that have no affiliation with the school.

I just think that college football not really being associated with a school and its alumni will start to garner interest levels that the UFL and all the other minor leagues that have tried to survive did.


The media rights for the B1G sold for $7billion. Where do you think that money should go?

I realize the money from the media deals can't go to players, but that just shows how much money is out there for college football. You can't convince me the players don't deserve any of the money.
As interest wanes, the media rights won't be anywhere close to $7 billion.


This is why it isnt sustainable. Interest is already waning and every year the same schools emerge at the top, smaller or less successful ones will decide it isnt worth it and drop out of the race. There wont be enough interest/money to sustain it.
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OrygunAg said:

Emilio Fantastico said:

1876er said:

Emilio Fantastico said:

1876er said:

NFL salary cap is 280 million. Why is 40 million too much for college football?

Sports are lucrative in America. Why shouldn't the guys generating the revenue get some of the money?
Because the NFL only has 32 teams and they are the premier league for the sport.
Just the SEC and B1G combined have more than 32 teams and several of those have very small followings.

Even if "college" football was pared down to say just 40 or so "Big/Rich" schools that wanted to participate, the fact that it would now be just an NFL minor league with no real affiliation to the schools other than the name, would cause interest to wane and TV revenue to decline. Then, you would basically be asking boosters of the school to pony up to cover the shortfall to pay players that have no affiliation with the school.

I just think that college football not really being associated with a school and its alumni will start to garner interest levels that the UFL and all the other minor leagues that have tried to survive did.


The media rights for the B1G sold for $7billion. Where do you think that money should go?

I realize the money from the media deals can't go to players, but that just shows how much money is out there for college football. You can't convince me the players don't deserve any of the money.
As interest wanes, the media rights won't be anywhere close to $7 billion.


This is why it isnt sustainable. Interest is already waning and every year the same schools emerge at the top, smaller or less successful ones will decide it isnt worth it and drop out of the race. There wont be enough interest/money to sustain it.


You're on to something here. Also, boosters aren't going to go all in every year at every program which **may** be a blessing in disguise. Ideally that creates some parity as smaller programs pick and choose when they go in all while bigger names regroup every few years. The issue there is the league office (via scheduling and refs) and the TV partners don't want parity; they want the same blue bloods every year which harms the growth.
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OrygunAg said:

Emilio Fantastico said:

1876er said:

Emilio Fantastico said:

1876er said:

NFL salary cap is 280 million. Why is 40 million too much for college football?

Sports are lucrative in America. Why shouldn't the guys generating the revenue get some of the money?
Because the NFL only has 32 teams and they are the premier league for the sport.
Just the SEC and B1G combined have more than 32 teams and several of those have very small followings.

Even if "college" football was pared down to say just 40 or so "Big/Rich" schools that wanted to participate, the fact that it would now be just an NFL minor league with no real affiliation to the schools other than the name, would cause interest to wane and TV revenue to decline. Then, you would basically be asking boosters of the school to pony up to cover the shortfall to pay players that have no affiliation with the school.

I just think that college football not really being associated with a school and its alumni will start to garner interest levels that the UFL and all the other minor leagues that have tried to survive did.


The media rights for the B1G sold for $7billion. Where do you think that money should go?

I realize the money from the media deals can't go to players, but that just shows how much money is out there for college football. You can't convince me the players don't deserve any of the money.
As interest wanes, the media rights won't be anywhere close to $7 billion.


This is why it isnt sustainable. Interest is already waning and every year the same schools emerge at the top, smaller or less successful ones will decide it isnt worth it and drop out of the race. There wont be enough interest/money to sustain it.


Interest in college football is increasing. Texags is not representative of America.
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Im still waiting for a high dollar freshman recruit to turn down the scholarship money to essentially open up an additional spot.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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1876er said:

OrygunAg said:

Emilio Fantastico said:

1876er said:

Emilio Fantastico said:

1876er said:

NFL salary cap is 280 million. Why is 40 million too much for college football?

Sports are lucrative in America. Why shouldn't the guys generating the revenue get some of the money?
Because the NFL only has 32 teams and they are the premier league for the sport.
Just the SEC and B1G combined have more than 32 teams and several of those have very small followings.

Even if "college" football was pared down to say just 40 or so "Big/Rich" schools that wanted to participate, the fact that it would now be just an NFL minor league with no real affiliation to the schools other than the name, would cause interest to wane and TV revenue to decline. Then, you would basically be asking boosters of the school to pony up to cover the shortfall to pay players that have no affiliation with the school.

I just think that college football not really being associated with a school and its alumni will start to garner interest levels that the UFL and all the other minor leagues that have tried to survive did.


The media rights for the B1G sold for $7billion. Where do you think that money should go?

I realize the money from the media deals can't go to players, but that just shows how much money is out there for college football. You can't convince me the players don't deserve any of the money.
As interest wanes, the media rights won't be anywhere close to $7 billion.


This is why it isnt sustainable. Interest is already waning and every year the same schools emerge at the top, smaller or less successful ones will decide it isnt worth it and drop out of the race. There wont be enough interest/money to sustain it.


Interest in college football is increasing. Texags is not representative of America.

There are routinely high school games with better attendance than this...

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levypantsEOY said:

Ag1188 said:

And now we know how they got the #1 recruiting class this last year. $35m-$40m being their current payroll…


You might want to do a deep dive on Jimbo's #1 recruiting class of all time.
Hint: they didn't sign up for the cool chants or bottle caps at the DC.
and yet A&M was ridiculed for it. Hypocrisy much?
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AgDotCom said:

1876er said:

OrygunAg said:

Emilio Fantastico said:

1876er said:

Emilio Fantastico said:

1876er said:

NFL salary cap is 280 million. Why is 40 million too much for college football?

Sports are lucrative in America. Why shouldn't the guys generating the revenue get some of the money?
Because the NFL only has 32 teams and they are the premier league for the sport.
Just the SEC and B1G combined have more than 32 teams and several of those have very small followings.

Even if "college" football was pared down to say just 40 or so "Big/Rich" schools that wanted to participate, the fact that it would now be just an NFL minor league with no real affiliation to the schools other than the name, would cause interest to wane and TV revenue to decline. Then, you would basically be asking boosters of the school to pony up to cover the shortfall to pay players that have no affiliation with the school.

I just think that college football not really being associated with a school and its alumni will start to garner interest levels that the UFL and all the other minor leagues that have tried to survive did.


The media rights for the B1G sold for $7billion. Where do you think that money should go?

I realize the money from the media deals can't go to players, but that just shows how much money is out there for college football. You can't convince me the players don't deserve any of the money.
As interest wanes, the media rights won't be anywhere close to $7 billion.


This is why it isnt sustainable. Interest is already waning and every year the same schools emerge at the top, smaller or less successful ones will decide it isnt worth it and drop out of the race. There wont be enough interest/money to sustain it.


Interest in college football is increasing. Texags is not representative of America.

There are routinely high school games with better attendance than this...




You got me there. Interest in bowl games is nil.
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I don't think over 2 million people are watching those high school games on TV.

Using the attendance at meaningless bowl games between two teams that were very disappointed in how the season went isn't exactly a great indicator of whether interest is waning or not.

You need to look at overall attendance and TV viewership across the board.
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Panama Red said:

I don't think over 2 million people are watching those high school games on TV.

Using the attendance at meaningless bowl games between two teams that were very disappointed in how the season went and are 1,300 and 300 miles away isn't exactly a great indicator of whether interest is waning or not.

You need to look at overall attendance and TV viewership across the board.

FIFY
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htxag09 said:

Panama Red said:

I don't think over 2 million people are watching those high school games on TV.

Using the attendance at meaningless bowl games between two teams that were very disappointed in how the season went and are 1,300 and 300 miles away isn't exactly a great indicator of whether interest is waning or not.

You need to look at overall attendance and TV viewership across the board.

FIFY

Ok, how about 1,400 and 400 miles away?


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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

OrygunAg said:

Emilio Fantastico said:

1876er said:

Emilio Fantastico said:

1876er said:

NFL salary cap is 280 million. Why is 40 million too much for college football?

Sports are lucrative in America. Why shouldn't the guys generating the revenue get some of the money?
Because the NFL only has 32 teams and they are the premier league for the sport.
Just the SEC and B1G combined have more than 32 teams and several of those have very small followings.

Even if "college" football was pared down to say just 40 or so "Big/Rich" schools that wanted to participate, the fact that it would now be just an NFL minor league with no real affiliation to the schools other than the name, would cause interest to wane and TV revenue to decline. Then, you would basically be asking boosters of the school to pony up to cover the shortfall to pay players that have no affiliation with the school.

I just think that college football not really being associated with a school and its alumni will start to garner interest levels that the UFL and all the other minor leagues that have tried to survive did.


The media rights for the B1G sold for $7billion. Where do you think that money should go?

I realize the money from the media deals can't go to players, but that just shows how much money is out there for college football. You can't convince me the players don't deserve any of the money.
As interest wanes, the media rights won't be anywhere close to $7 billion.


This is why it isnt sustainable. Interest is already waning and every year the same schools emerge at the top, smaller or less successful ones will decide it isnt worth it and drop out of the race. There wont be enough interest/money to sustain it.


You're on to something here. Also, boosters aren't going to go all in every year at every program which **may** be a blessing in disguise. Ideally that creates some parity as smaller programs pick and choose when they go in all while bigger names regroup every few years. The issue there is the league office (via scheduling and refs) and the TV partners don't want parity; they want the same blue bloods every year which harms the growth.
Especially when the cost to benefit ratio doesn't add up. Ole Miss went "all in" last year and didn't even make the playoffs.I'm not sure how "all in" they went this year. But if they did it again and don't make the playoffs again, you have to wonder how many more times they will try.

I also wonder how well a team full of hired guns will mesh to actually play like a team. I could definitely see the sips imploding at some point if they bring in too many bad apples (see our 2022 recruiting class).
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levypantsEOY said:

Ag1188 said:

And now we know how they got the #1 recruiting class this last year. $35m-$40m being their current payroll…


You might want to do a deep dive on Jimbo's #1 recruiting class of all time.
Hint: they didn't sign up for the cool chants or bottle caps at the DC.


This is hilarious. Sips went 5-7 and signed the #3 class. Just stop the idiocy.
We signed the #1 class because Jimbo was coming off a new years 6 win when we got snubbed from the playoffs.
Plus Jimbo is an elite recruiter. Sark got lucky he arrived in Austin the same year NIL kicked and the announced move to the SEC. Otherwise he would be 4 losses away from being fired.
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T-shirt-Ag said:

levypantsEOY said:

Ag1188 said:

And now we know how they got the #1 recruiting class this last year. $35m-$40m being their current payroll…


You might want to do a deep dive on Jimbo's #1 recruiting class of all time.
Hint: they didn't sign up for the cool chants or bottle caps at the DC.



We signed the #1 class because Jimbo was coming off a new years 6 win when we got snubbed from the playoffs.



lol. If you truly believe this, I'm not sure what use it is trying to debate.
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T-shirt-Ag said:

levypantsEOY said:

Ag1188 said:

And now we know how they got the #1 recruiting class this last year. $35m-$40m being their current payroll…


You might want to do a deep dive on Jimbo's #1 recruiting class of all time.
Hint: they didn't sign up for the cool chants or bottle caps at the DC.


This is hilarious. Sips went 5-7 and signed the #3 class. Just stop the idiocy.
We signed the #1 class because Jimbo was coming off a new years 6 win and spent $30,000,000.
fify
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Loren Visser said:

T-shirt-Ag said:

levypantsEOY said:

Ag1188 said:

And now we know how they got the #1 recruiting class this last year. $35m-$40m being their current payroll…


You might want to do a deep dive on Jimbo's #1 recruiting class of all time.
Hint: they didn't sign up for the cool chants or bottle caps at the DC.


This is hilarious. Sips went 5-7 and signed the #3 class. Just stop the idiocy.
We signed the #1 class because Jimbo was coming off a new years 6 win and spent $30,000,000.
fify


If you're dumb enough to think we spent 30 million on one class and now our total NIL for the entire team is around 14 million then I don't know what to tell you.
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This is just their normal NIL budget plus the new revenue sharing, correct?

So their NIL budget that everyone thinks of when they hear it is 15-20 million.
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Ags lose out again on 5 Star Travis Hunter clone.

https://www.si.com/college/tamu/recruiting/texas-am-aggies-lose-5-star-travis-hunter-type-recruit-arch-rival-texas-longhorns

It's getting to be pathetic at this point
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Strategy said:

Ags lose out again on 5 Star Travis Hunter clone.

https://www.si.com/college/tamu/recruiting/texas-am-aggies-lose-5-star-travis-hunter-type-recruit-arch-rival-texas-longhorns

It's getting to be pathetic at this point



That seems a little dramatic. The article says A&M has the 6th rated class and if you go to the 247 rankings Texas sits at 30th (albeit with less recruits).
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Aren't you a tu dude?

Unsure if this prelim, premature ranking will hold until signing day as way too much pressure on our 'verbals' (staff does choose top caliber, but just doing the work for others who will pay more)...

IMO, Elko and staff will have a very tough time holding onto the 2026 class as it stands today. There's a ton of pressure on the QB (Casuga - lots of west coast pressure), LB/DE (Samu M...has become top recruit to flip for 4 blue blood programs who have made him their #1 priority and tu backing up the truck) and WR (Gregory...sips starting to offer a truckload as well as other SEC schools). Several services expect the LB/DE and WR to eventually flip away from A&M.

If A&M coaches are able to hold onto these 3, will be a big kudos to them and will prove they can compete with a less budget. We'll only bid so high and that's about to reach it's limit as cannot do what tu, UM, tOSU, UGA nor apparently even Aub and Bama are starting to shell out; we'll say not willing too under the guise of 'character').

Kids easy to sway with money that so astronomical (and some guaranteed) as they have no allegiance to a school (understandable frankly).

Time will tell.
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Time will disappear it all?!?
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Strategy said:

Ags lose out again on 5 Star Travis Hunter clone.

https://www.si.com/college/tamu/recruiting/texas-am-aggies-lose-5-star-travis-hunter-type-recruit-arch-rival-texas-longhorns

It's getting to be pathetic at this point

greg.w.h
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Oh no…Sean Bean's character will be dying again???
Faustus
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I am but I don't think it changes my post. Long way to go and A&M has started strong while Texas is just getting going. That hardly merits "pathetic" over a verbal that could easily change in the 1/2 year before early signing day.

I imagine it will play out like last the class where both schools end up in the Top 10 in recruiting.
Strategy
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It's the losing trend that is most alarming.

We aren't the school that picks off players.

We aren't cool. And we certainly don't have a plan in place to improve that narrative. Look at everything sip is doing as I mentioned in my previous post.



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Sips doing sip things. So shocking
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doing what any team would do.

noon game is far better for the visitor than a night game.
 
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