93MarineHorn said:

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Bottlehead90 said:

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They wrecked the swc

Ask the members not invited to the big12.

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Ha! An Aggie blaming Texas for not bringing the little ones to the Big12 is hilarious. Ok, but you guys were standing next to us and cheering it on when it happened.

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We wiiodvhacevosssdd on Baylor and Tefh tbh…

93MarineHorn said:

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greg.w.h said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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"Several industry sources said they expect the biggest SEC and Big Ten schools, such as Alabama, Texas, Ohio State and Michigan, to demand a bigger proportion of their conferences' television earnings when new broadcast deals are negotiated in the early 2030s -- a move that would drive another wedge between the haves and have-nots."

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"Sources expect". So, none of these schools have actually said they want more $$ based on ratings. And please enlighten me how Texas caused the demise of the SWC.

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You don't know the history of your own school?

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Yeah, UT started up a 3rd tier "network" to show crappy games and endless re-runs which caused a lot of butt hurt from Ags, but none from the Sooners.

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The network they swore wouldn't show conference games?
The network they swore wouldn't show high school prospects' games? They got nailed on that one, as I recall.
The network the PAC12 told them to pound sand about when they were shopping around and $&*#ing the Big 12?

The Big 12 just bent over and took the screwing and double crossing.

93MarineHorn said:

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Reno Hightower said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Bottlehead90 said:

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They wrecked the swc

Ask the members not invited to the big12.

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Ha! An Aggie blaming Texas for not bringing the little ones to the Big12 is hilarious. Ok, but you guys were standing next to us and cheering it on when it happened.

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Nah. Woulda been better at the time if y'all woulda gone PAC & we go SEC, leaving Lubbock and Waco to figure their stuff out in their own.

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If you were around back then you'd know that Ags didn't want to go to the SEC. It wasn't the power house it is today and academics still mattered.

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Not true
We were looking to join with Arkansas.

This thread title is misleading. Texas has not asked for more.

"...Several industry sources said they expect the biggest SEC and Big Ten schools, such as Alabama, Texas, Ohio State and Michigan, to demand..."

33 said:

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This thread title is misleading. Texas has not asked for more.

"...Several industry sources said they expect the biggest SEC and Big Ten schools, such as Alabama, Texas, Ohio State and Michigan, to demand..."

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That is the warning to see who makes a fuss. Will you be surprised when it happens?

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This thread title is misleading. Texas has not asked for more.

"...Several industry sources said they expect the biggest SEC and Big Ten schools, such as Alabama, Texas, Ohio State and Michigan, to demand..."

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No…it is not misleading. It is prophetic.

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This thread title is misleading. Texas has not asked for more.

"...Several industry sources said they expect the biggest SEC and Big Ten schools, such as Alabama, Texas, Ohio State and Michigan, to demand..."

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I can't believe Alabama is demanding more money!

Jarrin' Jay said:

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That will not happen, ever. SEC will not agree to that, period.

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Bookmarking this for 2030.

B-1 83 said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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greg.w.h said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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"Several industry sources said they expect the biggest SEC and Big Ten schools, such as Alabama, Texas, Ohio State and Michigan, to demand a bigger proportion of their conferences' television earnings when new broadcast deals are negotiated in the early 2030s -- a move that would drive another wedge between the haves and have-nots."

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"Sources expect". So, none of these schools have actually said they want more $$ based on ratings. And please enlighten me how Texas caused the demise of the SWC.

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You don't know the history of your own school?

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Yeah, UT started up a 3rd tier "network" to show crappy games and endless re-runs which caused a lot of butt hurt from Ags, but none from the Sooners.

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The network they swore wouldn't show conference games?
The network they swore wouldn't show high school prospects' games? They got nailed on that one, as I recall.
The network the PAC12 told them to pound sand about when they were shopping around and $&*#ing the Big 12?

The Big 12 just bent over and took the screwing and double crossing.

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In hindsight, do you honestly think LHN was a big deal? It's a joke. I can't remember watching any conference games on LHN. I wasn't aware they carried them.

Of course Texas was looking around once NU and CU departed. You think A&M wasn't looking around?

A&M & MUs departure was the final nail in the Big12's coffin. It's more accurate to say that A&M wrecked the Big12, not Texas.

Please stop with the revisionist history.

Why do think all of those teams wanted out of the big12?

TU paid the SEC 50 Million to be allowed to come in 2 years early. Now they want yo be paid from TV revenue ?

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And....sips now starting to destroy a 3rd conference....

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The depressing thing is that the sips won't do this without A&M's collaboration. And our administration will approve it because the $$ looks good.

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The Grinder (99) said:

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I guess my question would be, how do these things get decided?

Are we talking about keeping an intact SEC with new rules? If so, how do rules like this get made/changed? Do you need a majority of presidents? If so, I'm pretty sure ATM would be included in that

Or are we talking about an entirely new system? Like a new league? I could see the "biggest schools" having more leverage here. The dozen or so national brands could form something and invite (so to speak) the next 30 ish schools to be part of it but it might be a "take it or leave it" type situation.

I could see ATM having less leverage there. Yeah we're big and have a loyal and large fan base, but let's be real, the new league would go on without us. They could say we're a tier 2 school and get a lesser pay out than tier 1 schools

I don't know, that seems possible. Not the most likely hit possible.

I'm sure there are endless ways this could shake out.

I think the most likely is we keep the SEC and B1G intact though

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Well, A&M didn't know about tu joining until it was for all intensive purposes done.

So, there's that.

I'm sure Snakey keeps us informed and has only the best for us in mind.

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FIFY!!!

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I know, autocorrect

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And....sips now starting to destroy a 3rd conference....

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By all definitions they are a cancer...

Move in... infect a conference with their bull****... kill said conference... move on and repeat

93MarineHorn said:

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B-1 83 said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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greg.w.h said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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"Several industry sources said they expect the biggest SEC and Big Ten schools, such as Alabama, Texas, Ohio State and Michigan, to demand a bigger proportion of their conferences' television earnings when new broadcast deals are negotiated in the early 2030s -- a move that would drive another wedge between the haves and have-nots."

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"Sources expect". So, none of these schools have actually said they want more $$ based on ratings. And please enlighten me how Texas caused the demise of the SWC.

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You don't know the history of your own school?

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Yeah, UT started up a 3rd tier "network" to show crappy games and endless re-runs which caused a lot of butt hurt from Ags, but none from the Sooners.

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The network they swore wouldn't show conference games?
The network they swore wouldn't show high school prospects' games? They got nailed on that one, as I recall.
The network the PAC12 told them to pound sand about when they were shopping around and $&*#ing the Big 12?

The Big 12 just bent over and took the screwing and double crossing.

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In hindsight, do you honestly think LHN was a big deal? It's a joke. I can't remember watching any conference games on LHN. I wasn't aware they carried them.

Of course Texas was looking around once NU and CU departed. You think A&M wasn't looking around?

A&M & MUs departure was the final nail in the Big12's coffin. It's more accurate to say that A&M wrecked the Big12, not Texas.

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Texas looking around caused NU to look for an exit. Mizzou applied to Big Ten after the Pac move was nixed by Texas. A&M and OU discussed a move to SEC due to Texas-negotiated move to Pac that would have cratered. Colorado joined early because Baylor tried to worm in before Texas was told they could not keep the LHN by Larry Scott. Any more Hotn fiction you want to have refuted?

Texas wants more revenue

No way

I have known a few that always want more

They are never happy

It's a sickness

LB12Diamond said:

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Texas wants more revenue

No way

I have known a few that always want more

They are never happy

It's a sickness

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Unnamed industry sources suspect the biggest teams like Alabama, Texas, Michigan, Ohio State etc. will want more years from now.

A&M probably falls into the same bucket of teams, but ESPN is going to ESPN.

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Mr. Fingerbottom said:

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Wabs said:

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And....sips now starting to destroy a 3rd conference....

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This will be the 4th conference they destroy

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What are the 4? I have SWC, Big XII, and now SEC. What one am I missing?

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Big 8

Sip destroyed swc & big 8 to create the big 12 which they would later destroy


Now they are going to destroy the sec bc no one ever learns their lesson when dealing with these backhanded conniving scum

93MarineHorn said:

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B-1 83 said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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greg.w.h said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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"Several industry sources said they expect the biggest SEC and Big Ten schools, such as Alabama, Texas, Ohio State and Michigan, to demand a bigger proportion of their conferences' television earnings when new broadcast deals are negotiated in the early 2030s -- a move that would drive another wedge between the haves and have-nots."

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"Sources expect". So, none of these schools have actually said they want more $$ based on ratings. And please enlighten me how Texas caused the demise of the SWC.

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You don't know the history of your own school?

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Yeah, UT started up a 3rd tier "network" to show crappy games and endless re-runs which caused a lot of butt hurt from Ags, but none from the Sooners.

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The network they swore wouldn't show conference games?
The network they swore wouldn't show high school prospects' games? They got nailed on that one, as I recall.
The network the PAC12 told them to pound sand about when they were shopping around and $&*#ing the Big 12?

The Big 12 just bent over and took the screwing and double crossing.

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In hindsight, do you honestly think LHN was a big deal? It's a joke. I can't remember watching any conference games on LHN. I wasn't aware they carried them.

Of course Texas was looking around once NU and CU departed. You think A&M wasn't looking around?

A&M & MUs departure was the final nail in the Big12's coffin. It's more accurate to say that A&M wrecked the Big12, not Texas.

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Or NU, CU, UA, A&M, and Missouri saw the handwriting on the wall, got tired of being Texas' beotches, and said &$#@ this! Weren't the sips still given money from ESPN not shared by their conference "partners"?

Reno Hightower said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Bottlehead90 said:

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They wrecked the swc

Ask the members not invited to the big12.

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Ha! An Aggie blaming Texas for not bringing the little ones to the Big12 is hilarious. Ok, but you guys were standing next to us and cheering it on when it happened.

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Nah. Woulda been better at the time if y'all woulda gone PAC & we go SEC, leaving Lubbock and Waco to figure their stuff out in their own.

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Ann Richards wouldn't let Baylor get left out.

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TU paid the SEC 50 Million to be allowed to come in 2 years early. Now they want yo be paid from TV revenue ?

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ESPN paid tu a redacted amount to end the LHN. In return, tu agreed to no first year conference revenue share.

Big question. Why was the amount redacted? And why can't a court force disclosure?

I'll need a link to believe the sips paid SEC 50M to join early.

If they paid anyone, it was the Big12...

I think the new Big12 was happy to be rid of them.

Jarrin' Jay said:

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That will not happen, ever. SEC will not agree to that, period.

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Just like they were never going to be allowed into the SEC? Lol. Some of you must be struggling while having your head buried in the sand

Maybe see that ND and ACC schools keep all of their Playoff money.

Fire Sankey.

When someone tells you who they are, believe them.

• texas is a ****ty business partner. Like a cheating spouse
• Snakey's named that for a reason. He's bought IMO

There is absolutely no reason to believe these two entities will "do what is right" for the greater good.

I'm actually amazed texas agreed to join any conference. They're such a big draw, they should just schedule 11 team scrimmages all year long and keep all the money. They love themselves soooo much

93MarineHorn said:

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B-1 83 said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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greg.w.h said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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"Several industry sources said they expect the biggest SEC and Big Ten schools, such as Alabama, Texas, Ohio State and Michigan, to demand a bigger proportion of their conferences' television earnings when new broadcast deals are negotiated in the early 2030s -- a move that would drive another wedge between the haves and have-nots."

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"Sources expect". So, none of these schools have actually said they want more $$ based on ratings. And please enlighten me how Texas caused the demise of the SWC.

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You don't know the history of your own school?

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Yeah, UT started up a 3rd tier "network" to show crappy games and endless re-runs which caused a lot of butt hurt from Ags, but none from the Sooners.

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The network they swore wouldn't show conference games?
The network they swore wouldn't show high school prospects' games? They got nailed on that one, as I recall.
The network the PAC12 told them to pound sand about when they were shopping around and $&*#ing the Big 12?

The Big 12 just bent over and took the screwing and double crossing.

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In hindsight, do you honestly think LHN was a big deal? It's a joke. I can't remember watching any conference games on LHN. I wasn't aware they carried them.

Of course Texas was looking around once NU and CU departed. You think A&M wasn't looking around?

A&M & MUs departure was the final nail in the Big12's coffin. It's more accurate to say that A&M wrecked the Big12, not Texas.

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LOLOLOLOLOL. I'm a Marine and this is just BS from "93MarineHorn". Delusion at its finest.

Unequal revenue share Caused a problem in big xii and will cause a problem in SEC.

But i honestly dont care anymore. I will still pull for Aggies to win but if they dont, doesnt bother me. Dont even have it in me to actively root for Texas to lose.

Yes

Nobody here seemed too upset when we were taking more revenue than Baylor Tech, OSU, Missouri, and K state.

Pretty sure those were "keep the conference together and hush" payments.

It won't matter who is in what conference when things break and the super conference is created. The rich blue blood schools and TV will decide who is in the new super conference. The number of teams those groups want will largely determine if we are included. I expect we will be included, but if tu wants us out so they more easily dominate the state of Texas, then that will be a problem for us.

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BMX Bandit said:

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the SEC as you know is it on its death bed anyway. And I don't mean the "college football is dying" line people trot out

within 10 years, vanderbilt and mississippi state won't be in the same conference or "division" as the top half of the SEC

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I'm with you. Within 10 years, college football will likely follow the NFL model and reduce down to 32-40 teams in a single laeague with a 12-14 game schedule. Teams will only play teams within that new league and TV money will be split equally like the NFL. I think this driven by the broadcasters saying they will pay more to have 16-20 high quality games each week rather than games like A&M vs New Mexico State.

What it does to the other sports is anyone's guess. Will basketball follow the same model with the same schools in which case schools like Kansas, Gonzaga, UConn and Duke are screwed? I think Kentucky would survive in that case but more because of basketball than their football program.

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What you're talking about is unrealistic. A 12-14 game schedule goes well into December for all teams, which means the playoffs takes us to February, WAY too far into basketball. Hell, baseball is starting. Right now, there's really only CCGs, Army/Navy, and Bowl Games (plus playoffs) after T-giving weekend. Which means even if TV contracts for football get bigger, those for hoops get smaller. Since only a handful of schools' ADs make an actual "profit," no one will vote for or follow this model. It may not be a zero sum game, but its close.

I think there's a view among fans that all the D1 schools are going to allow the Alabamas, t.u.s, and Ohio States of the world dictate their future. I don't think that's going to happen. You're thinking like a fan; the people that vote for these things aren't.

I'm not opposed to moving toward entertainment that causes fewer lifelong degenerative neural diseases.

But didn't ESPN give Texas $300 million for that third rate network…which Texas didn't have to share with anyone. $300 million buys a lot of advantages that other schools might resent.