Amen, Brother!

They should absolutely get rid of the conference winner autobids and take the top ranked teams. If your conference or SoS sucks, you don't get in. Won't happen though because there is too much money and politics involved to ditch autobids.

The first round bye is not always desirable. You rest and get rusty/distracted while your next opponent if they win without injuries emerges more battle-tested.

Maybe it is good if you need guys to heal up. I don't think it's 100 percent one way or another.

Ohio Stare going to win it all after two regular season losses. They would have not made a 4 team playoff.

Pretty much like the Aggie team from 2012.

So I don't want hear anymore more sips had better first year in SEC than we did.

No they did not. They just had a different playoff format.

We did not need a bogus officiating call to blow out the Big 12 champs.

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3 out of 3 auto byes have lost. Could they have screwed up a 12 team playoff system any worse? Lol.

Ditch this. Go 16 teams. No byes. No auto bids. Seed straight up 1-16 and go.

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Yeah, add even more teams that don't belong. That'll fix it.

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The first round bye is not always desirable. You rest and get rusty/distracted while your next opponent if they win without injuries emerges more battle-tested.

Maybe it is good if you need guys to heal up. I don't think it's 100 percent one way or another.

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Agree with this
Teams that got 1st round byes are 0-3
You lose rythm as a football team

I think 8 teams would be the right number of playoff teams with the Power 4 conference champions and 4 at large spots because I don't like the idea of first round byes and CFP games conflicting with Saturday NFL games. In an 8-team playoff format, all the CFP games from the quarterfinals to the national championship game would be played at neutral site games and start on New Years Eve or New Years' Day instead of around 12/20.

1. SEC Champion Georiga
2. Big 10 Champion Oregon
3. Big 12 Champion Arizona State
4. ACC Champion Clemson
5. Texas
6. Penn State
7. Notre Dame
8. Ohio State

Thanks to a targeting call being ignored.

ASU did not lose. They were robbed.

Gyles Marrett said:

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3 out of 3 auto byes have lost. Could they have screwed up a 12 team playoff system any worse? Lol.

Ditch this. Go 16 teams. No byes. No auto bids. Seed straight up 1-16 and go.

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I agree they should ditch the seeds being tied to anything conference championship related, but overall its been interesting.

Oregon was going to be #1 in any system we played under and they got their doors blown off the worst.
ASU was considered the weakest of this weekends opponents and took tu to OT (after a controversion no-call in regulation that may have led to a win in regulation)

All that to say that I agree we should change the way seeing is done, but we've also had some examples this year of teams not being what we expected them to be, even considering rankings (tu was 3 and ASU was in the teens, if I recall correctly) so it's hard for me to be a huge "there are too many teams" guy right now.

To me, it looked like the brackets were set so we would see tu and Ohio State playing in the semi. Penn State also had an easy path to the semis playing SMU and Boise State. Notre Dame and Indiana was a joke of a matchup. It was set up to have blue bloods in the Final Four.

Been saying what OP says for a while.

Surely somebody will be left out at 17 or 18 but if you can't do well enough or have a schedule strong enough, you lost your shot

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Gyles Marrett said:

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3 out of 3 auto byes have lost. Could they have screwed up a 12 team playoff system any worse? Lol.

Ditch this. Go 16 teams. No byes. No auto bids. Seed straight up 1-16 and go.

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Yeah, add even more teams that don't belong. That'll fix it.

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When you add more the complaining actually decreases. There's still controversy being left out in basketball but not near as much as there was being left out of the 12 team football playoff….and a lot of the basketball complaining is a result of the autobids from tiny conferences. Getting rid of autobids eliminates that. No one is going to pay much attention to a team ranked 17 complaining.

I'd go one step further and get rid of a selection committee. Go back to a computer ranking 1-16. Humans with natural bias with ties to some programs involved is a completely dumbazz system.

The FBS Conferences run the CFP, not the NCAA.
Therefore, the conferences are going to maintain the priority of the conference champion.

All the P4 conferences need to do a better job of getting the best teams to the CCG and start playing tougher schedules.

I agree with getting rid of the bye, but go down to 8 teams and not up to 16. There aren't 16 teams who deserve to get in the playoff. There aren't even 12. I'm not really sure there are 8, but it's better than what we have now. The regular season isn't going to matter anymore. You will have all the Blueblood programs play weak schedules to go 11-1 and get in.

I can't believe they didn't get the thing everyone's been complaining about for 40 years right on the first try!

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I can't believe they didn't get the thing everyone's been complaining about for 40 years right on the first try!

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It's not the first try. They first did The Bowl Coalition. Then The Bowl Alliance. Then the BCS. Then the College Football Playoff with four teams. Now they are doing 12 teams. They've had multiple iterations of trying to name a single champion.

Gyles Marrett said:

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3 out of 3 auto byes have lost. Could they have screwed up a 12 team playoff system any worse? Lol.

Ditch this. Go 16 teams. No byes. No auto bids. Seed straight up 1-16 and go.

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WRONG!!!

Oregon
Georgia
Ohio state
Notre Dame

Only teams that deserve a playoff spot

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They should absolutely get rid of the conference winner autobids and take the top ranked teams. If your conference or SoS sucks, you don't get in. Won't happen though because there is too much money and politics involved to ditch autobids.

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I don't mind the auto bids for conference champions. Just ditch the auto seeding. Go to 16 teams or even the FCS 24 team model.

Playoffs never get smaller - only bigger.

Which is why I wanted an 8 team playoff originally but was fine with 4. But TV money makes the world go round, so 12 it is.

I too dislike any auto-bids as it encourages schools to join weak conferences (see the Bowl Alliance as an example). WE presently have 5 auto-bids. It would be nice to whittle that down to no more than 4.

The conferences make too much $ from the CCG to eliminate auto-bids completely.

I'm actually ok with the 12 and the teams that got in. I don't have an issue with an autobid for winning a conference. I have an issue with the auto seed for winning. The seeding should be based on the order of the final ranking. If #14 won their conference then they bump number 12 out and become the 12, not the 4.

As others suggest, there are improvements that likely need to be made to the playoff system, but I have enjoyed it much more than not having a playoff. I agree there are still flaws in the system, but this format has been much more entertaining.

I think this is the first year that I have forgotten that playoff games were being played, realized late in the games, and then decided that it wasn't worth bothering to watch. I'll probably watch the natty game and maybe one or two of the semi-final games, but there are too many playoff games now and most of them are too dumb to watch.

Gyles Marrett said:

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3 out of 3 auto byes have lost. Could they have screwed up a 12 team playoff system any worse? Lol.

Ditch this. Go 16 teams. No byes. No auto bids. Seed straight up 1-16 and go.

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The answer is to go to 8 teams.

The single BCS championship game was perfectly fine. It produced much better games than the playoffs have produced. If we're being honest, more times than not, there are only about 2 teams that are good enough to win it all.

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Gyles Marrett said:

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3 out of 3 auto byes have lost. Could they have screwed up a 12 team playoff system any worse? Lol.

Ditch this. Go 16 teams. No byes. No auto bids. Seed straight up 1-16 and go.

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The answer is to go to 8 teams.

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What's wrong with 16? You get more football with competitive teams and the thought that smaller conferences are getting left out is then null and void. Plus, you take a lot of the power from the CFP Committee who tend to favor blue bloods and can have questionable top 10 rankings

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The single BCS championship game was perfectly fine. It produced much better games than the playoffs have produced. If we're being honest, more times than not, there are only about 2 teams that are good enough to win it all.

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Know what the clear problem is with that argument this year? Oregon was undefeated and would have occupied the national championship game where it appears they now do not belong

Gyles Marrett said:

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3 out of 3 auto byes have lost. Could they have screwed up a 12 team playoff system any worse? Lol.

Ditch this. Go 16 teams. No byes. No auto bids. Seed straight up 1-16 and go.

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Wrong!
Do not have a national championship playoff at all. Totally ridiculous.

If you cared about the players you wouldn't want all these post season games increasing the risk of injuries.

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If you cared about the players you wouldn't want all these post season games increasing the risk of injuries.

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there were many posters (including this one) that said not to give auto-bids while the new 12-team format was being set up

People are going to ***** no matter what. I think that they should make a 36 team playoff so the Ags might be able to get in to it!

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If you cared about the players you wouldn't want all these post season games increasing the risk of injuries.

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I don't care about any of this anymore. I used to when there was a hint of amateurism, but now they're on the payroll and can bounce every year to the highest bidder. Get to f'ing work.

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there were many posters (including this one) that said not to give auto-bids while the new 12-team format was being set up

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without auto-bids there would not be a 12 team playoff.

the conferences would never have agreed to it.


as many have said, the issue is not auto-bids. its seeding.

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Gyles Marrett said:

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3 out of 3 auto byes have lost. Could they have screwed up a 12 team playoff system any worse? Lol.

Ditch this. Go 16 teams. No byes. No auto bids. Seed straight up 1-16 and go.

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Wrong!
Do not have a national championship playoff at all. Totally ridiculous.

If you cared about the players you wouldn't want all these post season games increasing the risk of injuries.

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I don't care about the players. I care about my own entertainment, and more football playoff games equals more entertainment. The players get paid handsomely now and they voluntarily choose to play this sport. My concern for player fatigue or injury over the course of a 16-team playoff is zero. It's not my job. They have in house training and medical staffs to worry about that. As a fan, I want more football. Give me more ****ing football.

Completely agree. Hell, I say bump up the regular season to 16 games now and expand the playoffs to 16 too. F the injuries. Next man up.