The real reason recruiting rankings are almost useless is because it captures the development of a bunch of 17 and 18-year-olds rather than a more accurate projection of what they'll be like when they are 20, 21 or 22.

Mule said:

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2025: Ranked 48th nationally.
247Sports

2024: Ranked 43rd nationally.
247Sports

2023: Ranked 44th nationally.
Wikipedia

2022: Ranked 52nd nationally.

Helluva a job of overachieving by that staff despite the loss

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I was told that only 5 star players are able to shed tackles, pressure the passer and get separation?

This can't be….

Also ASU has a tiny NIL pool. Their coach has been lobbying all year for more money.

dreyOO said:

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You could see from the first quarter on, ASU had no business playing the type of athlete that texas has.

But they made a game of it somehow. Amazing. Texas finds a way into the final four by playing a few weaker contenders while the real powerhouses (OSU/Oregon) are duking it out. That's very lucky...as usual

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Who'd have thought ASU would remind us of what the game should be? Ref interference will kill this sport if it isn't scrutinized and monitored/penalized.

30 transfers in 2024 class including the starting QB
31 transfers in 2023 class including Skattebo

sbag said:

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The real reason recruiting rankings are almost useless is because it captures the development of a bunch of 17 and 18-year-olds rather than a more accurate projection of what they'll be like when they are 20, 21 or 22.

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100%.

Folks fall in love with rankings.

Most have no clue how these kids get ranked in the 1st place.

How did those rankings work out for Jimbo?

How many stars was Skattebo? I'm guessing 3, maybe? Too lazy and pissed from their game to look it up.

Three as a transfer, zero out of HS

One thing ASU has running out their ears is hot chicks. The California state schools put in more stringent admission requirements a decade back and all the hot, dumb girls head to Arizona and ASU now.

FarmersFight95 said:

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How many stars was Skattebo? I'm guessing 3, maybe? Too lazy and pissed from their game to look it up.

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He wasn't ranked by recruiting sites. He signed to Sacramento State and then was a 3* as a transfer and was the #31 running back (according to 247).

rootube said:

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Also ASU has a tiny NIL pool. Their coach has been lobbying all year for more money.

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So you're saying we can steal their RB?

tk for tu juan said:

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30 transfers in 2024 class including the starting QB
31 transfers in 2023 class including Skattebo

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I wonder how their transfers compare to Elko's, which leagues they're from, and how they're different than many of our's like at DB.

Did we interview ASU Coach?

TexAgs23 said:

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rootube said:

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Also ASU has a tiny NIL pool. Their coach has been lobbying all year for more money.

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So you're saying we can steal their RB?

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Back the Brinks truck up to his front door

deer corn said:

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dreyOO said:

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You could see from the first quarter on, ASU had no business playing the type of athlete that texas has.

But they made a game of it somehow. Amazing. Texas finds a way into the final four by playing a few weaker contenders while the real powerhouses (OSU/Oregon) are duking it out. That's very lucky...as usual

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Who'd have thought ASU would remind us of what the game should be? Ref interference will kill this sport if it isn't scrutinized and monitored/penalized.

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This is nothing new. Refs have been in sip pockets since day 1. We just keep coming back for more with our heads in the sand making sure everyone knows we're the lovable losers just here to make sure everyone has a good time.

Above all need player development and player evaluation. Usually recruiting rankings indicates who has talent that when actually developed, has the potential of going pro. Jimbo was good at accumulating potential. Sherman was good at evaluation. Sumlin was good at a bit of both(mostly WRs). Can't remember a time when we had both.

Thought coach needed time to recruit his players and at least 3-4 yrs.. Indiana coach and ASU both made playoffs in first year with less nil, less resources, less recruiting but more coaching.

Coryhub said:

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Thought coach needed time to recruit his players and at least 3-4 yrs.. Indiana coach and ASU both made playoffs in first year with less nil, less resources, less recruiting but more coaching.

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You forgot they both don't play in the SEC.

Asu doesn't have to survive a sec schedule to make the playoffs. They are a middle of the road sec team with those athletes.

Recruiting aside, they really came in with a poor game plan, though. Their attack in their first drive was centered around completing short passes and establishing a run. Neither worked because that played right into t.u.'s strength. I don't think they threw the ball downfield at all in the first quarter -- maybe a time or two. Hell, the fake punt was their largest yardage gain up until that point. Remember their first drive, t.u. bailed them out with a running into the punter foul.

Obviously the first t.u. drive and punt return didn't help, but ASU could have won this going away with a better offensive game plan (throwing the ball downfield, even if it didn't work on the first drive or two), everything else being equal. t.u. did not respect their QB until he started completing passes that mattered.

dcg4403 said:

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sbag said:

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The real reason recruiting rankings are almost useless is because it captures the development of a bunch of 17 and 18-year-olds rather than a more accurate projection of what they'll be like when they are 20, 21 or 22.

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100%.

Folks fall in love with rankings.

Most have no clue how these kids get ranked in the 1st place.

How did those rankings work out for Jimbo?

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Maroon Flash said:

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Did we interview ASU Coach?

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No. Tells you something doesn't it???

greg.w.h said:

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Maroon Flash said:

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Did we interview ASU Coach?

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No. Tells you something doesn't it???

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Was seen as really too young

You realize their 75 catch, 1,100 receiving yards, 10 receiving TDs guy was missing due to surgery right? Might impact the throwing game.

Mule said:

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2025: Ranked 48th nationally.
247Sports

2024: Ranked 43rd nationally.
247Sports

2023: Ranked 44th nationally.
Wikipedia

2022: Ranked 52nd nationally.

Helluva a job of overachieving by that staff despite the loss

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yep. Odds are always in your favor having stacked roster...but games like yesterday make CFB amazingly fun.

Admiral Nelson said:

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greg.w.h said:

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Maroon Flash said:

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Did we interview ASU Coach?

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No. Tells you something doesn't it???

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Was seen as really too young

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He is a Phoenix native and started moonlighting with the ASU football coaching staff while still in high school after being injured. Went to ASU. He ain't leaving the Valley.

Maroon Flash said:

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Did we interview ASU Coach?

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Too young and no ties to Aggieland.

It's what we do

those ASU recruiting rankings will win a ton of games in the Big 12

They got cheated, they didn't lose.

" asu doesn't have to survive a sec schedule to make the playoffs. They are a middle of the road sec team with those athletes"

We don't do so well in big12 either.

Recruiting rankings mean less and less if you aren't getting top 5 classes. The portal can fix lots of recruiting mistakes. Of course, you can't make those same mistakes in the portal. I.e., A&M

Mule said:

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2025: Ranked 48th nationally.
247Sports

2024: Ranked 43rd nationally.
247Sports

2023: Ranked 44th nationally.
Wikipedia

2022: Ranked 52nd nationally.

Helluva a job of overachieving by that staff despite the loss

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Now check their Strength of Schedule.