Ewers, Arch.... WHO THE F*** CARES?!?!?!!!! Last time I looked this was the Aggie football board.

For the record: Ewers is good but not great, Arch is not slow, and JFF was not a big time recruit at all. He needed a RS year but absolutely Sherman would have played him, but he would have been getting QB coaching and not playing street ball his RS FR season, he would have run much less, no designed QB runs, but behind the best OL A&M has ever had in 2012 we still would have won 10+ games, but no Heisman for #2.

Onionman said:

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For the record, Johnny had a 20 yard shuttle time of 4.03s at the combine.


By comparison, in 2024 the fastest time by any player was 4.01.

Johnny ranks 4th all time in fastest 20 yard shuttle by a QB.

I bet Manning is much slower here.

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Arch is 6'4" 225. He's nowhere near as quick as JFF

Wait

I just reread your initial response to me Mr Harry.

LOL

You totally missed what I was noting.

I stated if Arch were anything like JFF, he would not have been the backup two years.

You somehow inferred that I meant Johny Manzeil the HS recruit.

Why???

I did not state Johny Manzeil HS recruit. I said JFF. The player that kicked ass at A&M.

In HS he was not JFF. He was Johnny Manzeil.

So I go back on my original statement you countered with hope you are able to understand it this time.

If Arch were anything like JFF, he would not be the back up for two years.

Two years at Texas where he also got playing time in several SEC games, Sark would have seen if he were JFF like and kept playing him.

Manning probably is faster than Manziel in straight line speed. I suspect Manziel in his playing days would be shiftier and more elusive than Manning.

But who really cares? They are different types of players in different systems.

Danny Vermin said:

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You can take anything Bill says with a grain of salt. He is an absolute clown and not a serious poster. Dude is never right about anything.

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I'm one of the few that can admit when I'm wrong around here, and it ain't often.

Go back to the politics board and yell at the clouds in your echo chamber, clown.

So Arch sucks because he's not as good as JFF in his prime.

Harry Dunne said:

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LB12Diamond said:

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I was hoping you were a sip bc your takes on this thread were so bad.

I stand corrected. You just have bad takes. My apologies.

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I think maybe you're just misunderstanding my point. It sounds like you're trying to say that if Arch was as good as Johnny when he came in that he would've started right away. Johnny didn't really come in as much, so that doesn't make sense.

I think Arch is probably pretty good. I agree that if he was THAT great he'd be playing already. But I think he's going to put up big numbers and be a first round draft pick…eventually.

I think probably most of the board and definitely most of the country agrees with me, so of that's a bad take I guess you're the only smart guy in the room. I can tell you already think that anyway, so let's just go with it.

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Yall are saying that Arch is faster than JFF because of his 40 time.

40 time isn't all that matters when is comes to speed, elusiveness and quickness. Again, Arch isn't as fast/quick/speedy as y'all think he is.

Cool. Don't know if Arch is that fast. Don't really care.

All I said is that 4.6 is an elite QB 40 time. Johnny and Tannehill and Mond were all around that time and they were elite speed QBs.

Let me dumb it down for you guys.

In the last 5 years. Please tell me some unbelievable QB in the pros or college that Waited until their 3rd year to start?

It does not happen anymore if they can actually play and are the real deal.

The only one I can think of Nuss at LSU. But he was a LSY diehard and Daniels win the Heisman. Nothing like what Arch is at sippy land.

And for JFF in his prime comment. It just so happened to be every game he played in college. So it's not like he had to work up to it which it seems you are trying to infer.

Bill Superman said:

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Harry Dunne said:

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LB12Diamond said:

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I was hoping you were a sip bc your takes on this thread were so bad.

I stand corrected. You just have bad takes. My apologies.

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I think maybe you're just misunderstanding my point. It sounds like you're trying to say that if Arch was as good as Johnny when he came in that he would've started right away. Johnny didn't really come in as much, so that doesn't make sense.

I think Arch is probably pretty good. I agree that if he was THAT great he'd be playing already. But I think he's going to put up big numbers and be a first round draft pick…eventually.

I think probably most of the board and definitely most of the country agrees with me, so of that's a bad take I guess you're the only smart guy in the room. I can tell you already think that anyway, so let's just go with it.

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Yall are saying that Arch is faster than JFF because of his 40 time.

40 time isn't all that matters when is comes to speed, elusiveness and quickness. Again, Arch isn't as fast/quick/speedy as y'all think he is.

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Elilusiveness is not speed. Speed is speed and elusiveness is elusiveness. They are different things. Arch isn't a slow ass as you originally said. He may not be elusive but that's a different subject.

All you do is dumb it down

Harry Dunne said:

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Of course I agree with that, but it doesn't even make any sense.

If Arch today were as good as Arch two years from now maybe wouldn't have been on the bench at all. If Johnny 2011 were as good as Johnny 2013, he wouldn't have been redshirted. If my aunt had balls…

If your only point was Arch is not as good as maybe the best college QB of all time in his prime, I don't even know why you need to make that point.

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You realize JFF won the Heisman in the same year of college as Arch played this year? Right?

Where Arch was a back up all season.

Where he went into the Georgia game and sucked.

Johnny won the Heisman.

Arch was the back up. Who got a chance. And stayed at back up.

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All you do is dumb it down

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About the response I expected.

You got an actual response. Tell me a stud QB that waited three years. I'm waiting.

Him not playing tells me all I need to know.

Maybe Johnny doesn't get a chance that early if he has a Heisman candidate playing in front of him.

Obviously, we know what he is now. Nobody knew what he was back then. He was just the best available. Who did he have to beat out? Jameill showers? joeckel? It's totally different circumstances.

We can argue all day. It's a dumb unwinnable argument. We'll see what Arch is when he gets a chance to play. I agree he's not the next Johnny football. I don't think anyone thinks that. Sarkisian compared him to Jake Locker. I think that's probably accurate.

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vander54 said:

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Onionman said:

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Aggie Dad 26 said:

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Onionman said:

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Not surprising that his evaluation is not that good because he is not very good.

tu is really good this year due to their defense.

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I wish we had a qb that wasn't very good but could win games like he has

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If we had the tu defense this year then Reed would have won many more games.

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Reed was better than Ewers in most categories

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Agreed.

Ewers had a better line and better receivers yet Reed still had a better QBR.

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Im poking fun of those that discredit Ewers.

QBs touch the ball on every play while the offense is on the field.

I like Reed, I've been a big fan of this since before the 24' season started

LB12Diamond said:

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Let me dumb it down for you guys.

In the last 5 years. Please tell me some unbelievable QB in the pros or college that Waited until their 3rd year to start?

It does not happen anymore if they can actually play and are the real deal.

The only one I can think of Nuss at LSU. But he was a LSY diehard and Daniels win the Heisman. Nothing like what Arch is at sippy land.

And for JFF in his prime comment. It just so happened to be every game he played in college. So it's not like he had to work up to it which it seems you are trying to infer.

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I like trivia....

What about Anthony Richardson? I don't remember him starting much at FL in his early time there. And was drafted in the first round by the Indianapolis Colts with the fourth overall pick.

Harry

If Ewers was not benched or missed playing time you might have a point.

Well it so happens both of these things happened so your response is pointless.

Arch got a chance, played multiple games so this response of yours means nothing. He played multiple games and did not keep the job.

Latter Harry

You go on believing what you want to believe even though everything that took place this year goes against your stance.

In the last 5 years

I made that clear as well

It does not happen anymore.

vander54 said:

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Bill Superman said:

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Harry Dunne said:

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LB12Diamond said:

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I was hoping you were a sip bc your takes on this thread were so bad.

I stand corrected. You just have bad takes. My apologies.

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I think maybe you're just misunderstanding my point. It sounds like you're trying to say that if Arch was as good as Johnny when he came in that he would've started right away. Johnny didn't really come in as much, so that doesn't make sense.

I think Arch is probably pretty good. I agree that if he was THAT great he'd be playing already. But I think he's going to put up big numbers and be a first round draft pick…eventually.

I think probably most of the board and definitely most of the country agrees with me, so of that's a bad take I guess you're the only smart guy in the room. I can tell you already think that anyway, so let's just go with it.

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Yall are saying that Arch is faster than JFF because of his 40 time.

40 time isn't all that matters when is comes to speed, elusiveness and quickness. Again, Arch isn't as fast/quick/speedy as y'all think he is.

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Elilusiveness is not speed. Speed is speed and elusiveness is elusiveness. They are different things. Arch isn't a slow ass as you originally said. He may not be elusive but that's a different subject.

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Fast can mean multiple things. I don't care about the semantics. They all combine to reach one common goal in the end.

I'm not ready to claim Arch has elite speed or hand him the Heisman. 40 is not the end all be all. And did the clock person add 2 inches like they do when measuring anyways? Most of y'all should know that after Haynes King anyways. Dude was fast but slow.

Anthony Richardson

Oh wow

You think he's a great QB, why???????

LB12Diamond said:

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In the last 5 years

I made that clear as well

It does not happen anymore.

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Joe Burrow almost fits this.

He played 2 years at Ohio State, couldn't or wasn't their starter.

Goes to LSU and the rest is history

Played right away in both college and pros

Thanks for proving my point

All I know is we get to watch tu keep playing after they beat our ass at home.

I have felt like Ewers stays in college one more year and cashes in at ole Miss or notre dame this next year. His time at tu is done and tu has no true option if arch is a bust.

Got to go guys

You knuckleheads have fun with your Arch circle jerk.

You have struck out twice

I at least came up with Nuss. Seems like you could come up with one.

He played as a true fish and started a game at A&M.

That would be the opposite of waiting.

LOL


Do you watch college football?

The 5 years was there from the beginning.

Bc that's how it with QBs now a days in college and the pros.

Which so happens to be the time Arch is in college.

Stud QBs don't wait now a days which is the entire point.

So you are 0 for 2.

You know why that is?

Bc I'm right.

I know


It hurts for you to admit it with all the smart ass responses you have made on this thread.

That's ok

It takes a big man to admit he was wrong.

So I'm not expecting it from you.

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