MagnumLoad said:PanzerAggie06 said:Lost all credibility with this statement. Congratulations on being that which you are attempting to attack. That being the incompetents that decide who is hired and fired.MagnumLoad said:
The last good hire was Jackie Sherrill by Bum Bright. He first went after Bo Schembechler at Michigan, who considered it but referred him to Sherrill who was tearing it up at Pittsburgh. Sherrill brought in RC for DC, as I recall. Slocum then succeeded him, whom we foolishly later fired. Whoever is hiring the head coach since then is completely incompetent to do so. The problem is not a curse, or our military component, or lack of cheer leaders. It is very simply whoever the idiot or idiots is/are that are doing the hiring. And their contracts are so bad I can't adequately describe it.
I am not attacking anyone. Just stating my opinion of why A&M football has been stuck in average since Sherrill
12thMan9 said:Stupid post. Who was he beating? NOBODY.MagnumLoad said:
Somehow Alabama hired DeBoer. So he could be hired. However, I am not saying he was the guy. I will say Utah hired Urban Myer when we hired Fran. There is a lot of hindsight there, but Myer was beating big programs at Bowling Green. I was not involved the search so I can't say for sure who should have been hired when we hired Elko. I do know Elko has watched the poor defense that Bateman has produced, and he is a defensive coach. So I have little hope in Elko. I personally would thoroughly vet the younger coaches in today's game. I do know that whoever has made the hires since Slocum are ofer. That's a long streak.
Franchione beat ol Miss, ranked 21 at the time, 42-7. They beat #16 UT AT UT by 3 scores & later beat #14 lsu AT Tiger Stadium 31-0. Lost early to #2 ou in Norman & lost to #7 UGA at home by 2. Closed w/a bad loss to Auburn b/f beating Hawaii to finish 10-3.
The AD makes the hire, after whomever you think may have picked them. Easy to have hindsight on the picks.
MagnumLoad said:
The last good hire was Jackie Sherrill by Bum Bright. He first went after Bo Schembechler at Michigan, who considered it but referred him to Sherrill who was tearing it up at Pittsburgh. Sherrill brought in RC for DC, as I recall. Slocum then succeeded him, whom we foolishly later fired. Whoever is hiring the head coach since then is completely incompetent to do so. The problem is not a curse, or our military component, or lack of cheer leaders. It is very simply whoever the idiot or idiots is/are that are doing the hiring. And their contracts are so bad I can't adequately describe it.
MagnumLoad said:NyAggie said:Quote:
MagnumLoad 6:19p
Somehow Alabama hired DeBoer.
Not for us
We had already fired jimbo and in the portal
Era you can't leave your roster unattended for long or it will get poached bigtime
We would have had to wait until Washington's playoff run was over and then contact Deboer hoping he'd be interested
By all accounts he wouldn't even take our call while his team was still playing, and that may be because he knew Saban was retiring and he had the bama job locked up, maybe not, but either way wayyyyy too risky for us
But saban retired after the playoffs and bama hired him then
And 9-3 with bamas roster ain't that good
The risky thing was firing Jimbo without a hire lined up. We should have waited to fire Fisher, if need be; and, if we don't get who we want, we keep Fisher another year with a healthy quarterback. That was my position at the time, believe it or not I don't care. A&M leadership will hopefully improve. A&M should NEVER "settle" for a coaching hire.
MagnumLoad said:NyAggie said:Quote:
MagnumLoad 6:19p
Somehow Alabama hired DeBoer.
Not for us
We had already fired jimbo and in the portal
Era you can't leave your roster unattended for long or it will get poached bigtime
We would have had to wait until Washington's playoff run was over and then contact Deboer hoping he'd be interested
By all accounts he wouldn't even take our call while his team was still playing, and that may be because he knew Saban was retiring and he had the bama job locked up, maybe not, but either way wayyyyy too risky for us
But saban retired after the playoffs and bama hired him then
And 9-3 with bamas roster ain't that good
The risky thing was firing Jimbo without a hire lined up. We should have waited to fire Fisher, if need be; and, if we don't get who we want, we keep Fisher another year with a healthy quarterback. That was my position at the time, believe it or not I don't care. A&M leadership will hopefully improve. A&M should NEVER "settle" for a coaching hire.
NyAggie said:MagnumLoad said:NyAggie said:Quote:
MagnumLoad 6:19p
Somehow Alabama hired DeBoer.
Not for us
We had already fired jimbo and in the portal
Era you can't leave your roster unattended for long or it will get poached bigtime
We would have had to wait until Washington's playoff run was over and then contact Deboer hoping he'd be interested
By all accounts he wouldn't even take our call while his team was still playing, and that may be because he knew Saban was retiring and he had the bama job locked up, maybe not, but either way wayyyyy too risky for us
But saban retired after the playoffs and bama hired him then
And 9-3 with bamas roster ain't that good
The risky thing was firing Jimbo without a hire lined up. We should have waited to fire Fisher, if need be; and, if we don't get who we want, we keep Fisher another year with a healthy quarterback. That was my position at the time, believe it or not I don't care. A&M leadership will hopefully improve. A&M should NEVER "settle" for a coaching hire.
Most people don't realize that Keeping jimbo would have gutted our roster more than firing him, plus Jimbo sucked at the portal
Imho, This season would have been an absolute disaster along the lines of 5-7 had we kept Jimbo
According to posters protecting Elko it takes a year or three…NyAggie said:Quote:
MagnumLoad 6:19p
Somehow Alabama hired DeBoer.
Not for us
We had already fired jimbo and in the portal
Era you can't leave your roster unattended for long or it will get poached bigtime
We would have had to wait until Washington's playoff run was over and then contact Deboer hoping he'd be interested
By all accounts he wouldn't even take our call while his team was still playing, and that may be because he knew Saban was retiring and he had the bama job locked up, maybe not, but either way wayyyyy too risky for us
But saban retired after the playoffs and bama hired him then
And 9-3 with bamas roster ain't that good
SunrayAg said:the most cool guy said:
I see this a lot. I'm not disagreeing, but if you're going to claim that, you need to tell us who we should have hired and why that person is a better coaching prospect than Elko.
DeBoer wasn't an option. Lanning wasn't an option. Schumann has less experience than Elko. Fisch was a total question mark. Wittingham is close to retirement.
Who should we have hired and why?
If adults were in charge, Jimbo wouldn't have been fired unless we had an upgrade already in place. If adults were in charge and Elko was our best option, Jimbo should have been given another season to see what he can do when he doesn't lose his starting qb early in the year.
Evanhue said:
I wished Sumlin could've worked out. I always liked his swagger.
MagnumLoad said:
The last good hire was Jackie Sherrill by Bum Bright. He first went after Bo Schembechler at Michigan, who considered it but referred him to Sherrill who was tearing it up at Pittsburgh. Sherrill brought in RC for DC, as I recall. Slocum then succeeded him, whom we foolishly later fired. Whoever is hiring the head coach since then is completely incompetent to do so. The problem is not a curse, or our military component, or lack of cheer leaders. It is very simply whoever the idiot or idiots is/are that are doing the hiring. And their contracts are so bad I can't adequately describe it.
TXAG 05 said:MagnumLoad said:
The last good hire was Jackie Sherrill by Bum Bright. He first went after Bo Schembechler at Michigan, who considered it but referred him to Sherrill who was tearing it up at Pittsburgh. Sherrill brought in RC for DC, as I recall. Slocum then succeeded him, whom we foolishly later fired. Whoever is hiring the head coach since then is completely incompetent to do so. The problem is not a curse, or our military component, or lack of cheer leaders. It is very simply whoever the idiot or idiots is/are that are doing the hiring. And their contracts are so bad I can't adequately describe it.
The BMAs get to select the coach because they are the ones paying the coach's salary. You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is.
Yup. Blue Bloods do anything necessary to win.SonOf_an_Ag said:
A head coach is only part of a championship team, it takes a lot of other things as well.
The power players in blue blood programs don't just a hire a coach to win them a natty. They try out coaches, they give direction, they make competent monetary decisions outside of the head coach.
Firing Jimbo was idiotic. Every which way. No one has to suggest an alternative because firing Jimbo forced us to consider a limited list AFTER THE FIRING WAS DONE.the most cool guy said:SunrayAg said:the most cool guy said:
I see this a lot. I'm not disagreeing, but if you're going to claim that, you need to tell us who we should have hired and why that person is a better coaching prospect than Elko.
DeBoer wasn't an option. Lanning wasn't an option. Schumann has less experience than Elko. Fisch was a total question mark. Wittingham is close to retirement.
Who should we have hired and why?
If adults were in charge, Jimbo wouldn't have been fired unless we had an upgrade already in place. If adults were in charge and Elko was our best option, Jimbo should have been given another season to see what he can do when he doesn't lose his starting qb early in the year.
I agree completely, but the OP wasn't complaining that we fired Jimbo without a plan. He was complaining specifically about the coach who was hired. So I want to know who he thinks we should have hired instead of Elko last year.
Aggie singular suggest you are trolling.SonOf_an_Ag said:
The achievable goal should be getting a run of 9 wins per year. Achievable goal of getting into a conf championship game in 3 years.
There has to be a competent power structure and AD to manage expectation and direct the head coach. Sark does not "run the show" at tu.
Aggie seems to just try to shortcut and buy some players, buy a coach etc without direction or purpose or program scaffolding.
Nah, they have the "I'm rich I'm smart" syndrome. Actually, their a bunch of glad-handing dumb politicians!jt16 said:
Elkos contract is very reasonable in today's game. So maybe the powers are learning a little
You forgot to add he had the #7th highest rated talent composite85AustinAg said:This is the correct answer. This board is filled with the biggest collection of idiots.Quote:
Our problem is that we just had a first year coach go 8-5 and our board wants to fire him for not being better than coaches that had much worse initial seasons at their schools but have now had the luxury of a few years to grow
this is a very good postBottlehead90 said:
We tend to do well in sports not followed by the big boosters.
85AustinAg said:
This board is filled with the biggest collection of idiots.
Talent does not equal team. There's a lot of work to be done with talent to turn it into a team. In year 1 of Elko's effort I'm not pleased or satisfied with the results. But I do think he'll get us there. All of those things said before we played S Carolina about how he had us headed in the right direction and was doing a good job have not changed.Craigy said:You forgot to add he had the #7th highest rated talent composite85AustinAg said:This is the correct answer. This board is filled with the biggest collection of idiots.Quote:
Our problem is that we just had a first year coach go 8-5 and our board wants to fire him for not being better than coaches that had much worse initial seasons at their schools but have now had the luxury of a few years to grow
Absolutely correct. All of those holes in the roster that Elko tried to plug with portal talent would have still been there. We would have been lucky to be .500.NyAggi said:
Most people don't realize that Keeping jimbo would have gutted our roster more than firing him, plus Jimbo sucked at the portal
Imho, This season would have been an absolute disaster along the lines of 5-7 had we kept Jimbo
JDCAG (NOT Colin) said:
Our problem is that we just had a first year coach go 8-5 and our board wants to fire him for not being better than coaches that had much worse initial seasons at their schools but have now had the luxury of a few years to grow
SunrayAg said:the most cool guy said:
I see this a lot. I'm not disagreeing, but if you're going to claim that, you need to tell us who we should have hired and why that person is a better coaching prospect than Elko.
DeBoer wasn't an option. Lanning wasn't an option. Schumann has less experience than Elko. Fisch was a total question mark. Wittingham is close to retirement.
Who should we have hired and why?
If adults were in charge, Jimbo wouldn't have been fired unless we had an upgrade already in place. If adults were in charge and Elko was our best option, Jimbo should have been given another season to see what he can do when he doesn't lose his starting qb early in the year.
