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" I won't watch a defense play like this ever again"

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OBJTEX said:

Hungry Ojos said:

Umm, Texas 8&5 sir.

I stand corrected.





Dang

Responding to your alter. Are you like a slit personality sippy.
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Is no one else mortified of having a D1 program in the SEC in game 13 that "has no concept of zone coverage"?

What in the actual ****?! Coming from our defensive guru of an HC no less.
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His version of "we just didn't execute!"

The one thing i did notice tonite versus the last 6 games is that Elko wasn't carrying a playcall sheet. This leads me to believe that he was infact carrying Bateman and tonite was an interview of sorts for keeping ones job.

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fulshearAg96 said:

somebody tell Elko talk is cheap
Elko don't run no BS politician program! Lol. Someone should call him out to his face, more than once.
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I have an idea, if your team has no concept of a zone defense, THEN STOP RUNNING ZONE.
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MagnumLoad said:

Maybe learn to hold early. It's 5 yards and automatic first down, and burns clock. Also they tend to stop calling it
I'm pretty sure our DBs know how to hold, even when they don't need to. Lol
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Bateman does not have a strong track record, Elko said he liked him since they had history but it looks like that was a bad call. Probably would have been better off if Elko called the defense and had an up and comer handle learning.

A lot of people were high on Klein but he showed to have no creativity. Now we have O'Neill and Hart who are not dual threats that are supposed to throw to Wars that can't get open. There were several times last night that our WRs were so close one DB could have covered them both.

After this sorry excuse for a season at least Klein or Bateman has to go
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That quote ranks right up there with "it ain't like it used to be ".
It's more like it used to be than it was.
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Elko watched well below average defense the last 3 SEC games. But now he's putting a stake in the ground. Right.
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More excuses.
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I noticed the same thing. I also heard fans say "I never even heard Elko coaching, it was like he was just watching." I agree that he was watching. He was watching to see how this game would pan out by letting his coordinators coach. Offensively, we didn't look HORRIBLE, but we still could vastly improve. Defensively, we were just a waste. We have been getting roasted all year long in coverage, especially Dezz Ricks. Idc if he was a 5 from Alabama, he isn't good enough to see the field for us. Surely our transfer players will take over in the secondary and we will fire Bateman. Someone has to go.
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DTX_12 said:

For the entire month of November he took the high road saying "it starts with me I have do better"

And then he lost every meaningful game for the next two months and we scored 0 points against our rivals so yah. I agree it is his responsibility and the results are the same gigantic failure
What he said was this S#@! ain't fixed overnight! He just came out and told you the PROGRAM WAS A MESS, PLAYERS WERE NOT BEING COACHED, got to OVERHAUL EVERYTHING! He pointed out specifics, like DB's not having a basic understanding of what's actually happening, what the offense is trying to do, why we're in man or zone. He told you "we've been lucky all year long", the problems have been there the whole time.

Elko's Program just finished the 1st Qtr - you staying or heading for the exit?
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RUGuys4Real said:

DTX_12 said:

For the entire month of November he took the high road saying "it starts with me I have do better"

And then he lost every meaningful game for the next two months and we scored 0 points against our rivals so yah. I agree it is his responsibility and the results are the same gigantic failure
What he said was this S#@! ain't fixed overnight! He just came out and told you the PROGRAM WAS A MESS, PLAYERS WERE NOT BEING COACHED, got to OVERHAUL EVERYTHING! He pointed out specifics, like DB's not having a basic understanding of what's actually happening, what the offense is trying to do, why we're in man or zone. He told you "we've been lucky all year long", the problems have been there the whole time.

Elko's Program just finished the 1st Qtr - you staying or heading for the exit?



Which was evident against Mizzou. They barely missed a couple of game breaking throws, and we got lucky.

The problem I have is: then do it. Cut everyone that you don't think is taking it seriously. Deion did it. With the portal you can actually create you culture. You won't win it all that way to start but at least you get rid of whatever rot is left over. Because now you have a talented freshman class coming in, and who do the practice with? The same guys who coach is complaining don't know a damn thing. That's how the sucking gets passed down from coach to coach
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The Banned said:

RUGuys4Real said:

DTX_12 said:

For the entire month of November he took the high road saying "it starts with me I have do better"

And then he lost every meaningful game for the next two months and we scored 0 points against our rivals so yah. I agree it is his responsibility and the results are the same gigantic failure
What he said was this S#@! ain't fixed overnight! He just came out and told you the PROGRAM WAS A MESS, PLAYERS WERE NOT BEING COACHED, got to OVERHAUL EVERYTHING! He pointed out specifics, like DB's not having a basic understanding of what's actually happening, what the offense is trying to do, why we're in man or zone. He told you "we've been lucky all year long", the problems have been there the whole time.

Elko's Program just finished the 1st Qtr - you staying or heading for the exit?



Which was evident against Mizzou. They barely missed a couple of game breaking throws, and we got lucky.

The problem I have is: then do it. Cut everyone that you don't think is taking it seriously. Deion did it. With the portal you can actually create you culture. You won't win it all that way to start but at least you get rid of whatever rot is left over. Because now you have a talented freshman class coming in, and who do the practice with? The same guys who coach is complaining don't know a damn thing. That's how the sucking gets passed down from coach to coach


Yes. This. Fine to say that on team inherited. But the season shouldnt unravel. They were worse by the end of the season. That is red flag.
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Quote:

Elko's Program just finished the 1st Qtr - you staying or heading for the exit?


I'll be back just to hear the excuses next year.
Fight against the dictatorship of the federal bureaucracy!
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Saw this with Jimbo. Keep firing coaches until it's apparent he's the problem.

Elmo was hired because of his DC ability.

If the defense sucks at all
That's on him. Stop passing the buck.
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Sterling82 said:

MagnumLoad said:

He said they have no concept of zone defense. Whose fault is that? Stupid players or bad coaches or both? Fire the DC and secondary coach?

I couldn't believe this admission. Through spring and fall and throughout the season you can't install zone coverages and execute with a semblance of competence? That's what a guy making millions just said! Terrible!
Exactly. How do you get to the end of the season and make this realization. WTF are you doing in practice then? Also suggests you never ran a zone in the 4 other games you lost? There are literally two other DB coaches in Jordan Peterson and Ishmael Astiride, what the hell have they been doing? So much wrong with this statement that again is rocking the boat of belief with this regime.
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RUGuys4Real said:

DTX_12 said:

For the entire month of November he took the high road saying "it starts with me I have do better"

And then he lost every meaningful game for the next two months and we scored 0 points against our rivals so yah. I agree it is his responsibility and the results are the same gigantic failure


Elko's Program just finished the 1st Qtr - you staying or heading for the exit?

Well, considering Elko teams play their best in the first quarter and then downhill from there, that's a pretty scary thought.
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AGinHI said:

I think next year is going to be worse.

Elko is the least accomplished head coach we have hired since RC.

Stew on that.


REMEMBER FRAN?
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aeon-ag said:

AGinHI said:

I think next year is going to be worse.

Elko is the least accomplished head coach we have hired since RC.

Stew on that.


REMEMBER FRAN?
In 3 years when Elko is fired, remember the new coach will be just another shiny object. Wash rinse repeat

I know NOTHING!!!!
OBJTEX
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aeon-ag said:

AGinHI said:

I think next year is going to be worse.

Elko is the least accomplished head coach we have hired since RC.

Stew on that.


REMEMBER FRAN?


Are you high? Fran won 10 games at TCU and Bama.
OBJTEX
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Btw the quote was half complete. The rest of quote was "until September 2025."
2nd Generation Ag
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He just painted himself in a corner with that statement. If the defense doesn't improve that we ill be the end for him
aeon-ag
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No matter, we'll suffer through another three years the he'll be gone!! I wonder what bumfuzzle the powers that be will bring in then. And so, the never ending coaching carousel will keep rotating!!!
RUGuys4Real
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It's not just the coaching, it takes experience to be where you people think we should be.
A lot of coaching, game time, and film study, over, and over, and over. Elko left a Lockdown Defense behind, when he went to Duke, he'll rebuild it again.. But it won't be complete by 2025 neither. LOL
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We'll see, but just don't think elko will get rid of Coach Ish or J. Peterson...esp 2 of his top recruiters so a bit of a catch 22 and took a lot to get J Peterson to come home (and gave him a Co DC title).
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Maybe he resigns and therefore doesn't have to watch this anymore. ...j/k
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fulshearAg96 said:

somebody tell Elko talk is cheap


Exactly. Pure lip service at this point. Do something about it now or stfu, dough boy.
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Bateman was 5-35 as a head coach. He's a loser. Should never have hired him.
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vander54 said:


How many players / starters did A&M lose at the end of the 2023 season?
How many players / starters returned for the 2024 season?
How many players left the program in 23', 35-40?
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Beezy2389 said:

Elko is just Dave Aranda
I hope that's LSU Aranda and not BayLOL Aranda. I have to admit, I thought he would be much better than he has turned out to be as a head coach
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Farmer_J said:

Wow, Elko didn't pull any punches talking about the defense. Or the previous coach.

I want to believe this coach is going to be different.



So is he going to look away and have someone DESCRIBE what's happening??
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zephyr88 said:

Let's see what Elko does to the coaching staff in January.

If he makes changes, you'll know he's not all talk.

If he rides with the same crew, you know he's just another average coach satisfied with being average.
I agree with this. At the same time, it's disappointing that he whiffed so quickly on some of his hires. WTF man. Part of being the leader is ability to assemble a great staff.
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Sgt. Schultz said:

aeon-ag said:

AGinHI said:

I think next year is going to be worse.

Elko is the least accomplished head coach we have hired since RC.

Stew on that.


REMEMBER FRAN?
In 3 years when Elko is fired, remember the new coach will be just another shiny object. Wash rinse repeat



That may be but, I have hope that Alberts will be significantly more capable than Bjork. The search that ended in the hiring of Elko was so bad it made our usual big cigar, slipshod hiring processes look decent. We had a guy that screwed up Fisher's deals beyond repair fumble through the hiring just before he packed his bags and left town. When we search for reasons we don't succeed, you need to look no further than that fiasco.
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