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DrAg14 said:

Administration
Culture
Identity
More emphasis spewing how good we are rather than putting in work
Losing to teams we should beat
Not beating teams we are capable of beating
Blaming the changing times
Blaming the students
Blaming the DJ
Blaming the coaches attire
Blaming the uniforms
Blaming NIL
Blaming the BMAs



For EFFs sake we blame everyone one and everything


It is us. "We are the Aggies, the Aggies are we"

Embrace the suck

Starts with the coach, find a great one. Established or upcoming. Then best lower level coaches. Then recruits/transfers. Then coach them up. EVERYTHING needs to fall in place to win consistently.
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jaxisback said:

Some of you need to spend some time walking through the MSC and reflect a bit on what really matters.

Any Aggie that would trade what Texas A&M is for anything else really isn't an Aggie at all.

This is minor league pro football. Someday we might reach the top of the mountain or maybe not. Enjoy it for what it is, in the end it's of little importance.

The notion that our university should somehow morph its culture and traditions because that would lead to football success, I reject out of hand.
I am sure glad we have dorks like you to laugh at after the football team chokes yet again.
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Bottlehead90 said:

RightWingConspirator said:

UT simply requires more from their staff and school. Look no further than academics. They want UT to be elite. They've made it more selective. We've made ourselves an institution that "educates all Texans" and less selective. Do you not see the same mindset in how our athletics are run?

We "sharpened iron" in the SEC for over a decade. UT comes in here and beats us in our $500MM home field and played for the SEC championship in their first year. The jokes just write themselves. I just laugh at it all now because if I don't laugh at our pitifulness I'd just get really angry.


Sips just gaslight.
Vince Young was honor student.
Epic roast dude! I'd still rather have their success.
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General Jack D. Ripper said:

taylorswift13_ said:

For F's sake you have Aggies in the stands lecturing you if you boo someone


How would booing help this program? People express their displeasure and disappointment well enough on this site.

Why do you want to lower yourself to win some football games? Is that an adequate trade? You lose your humanity acting like a fool booing everything and cussing out players, coaches and refs in front of your family.

Let's just assume that acting like a jackass will help the team win. So what? You didn't win anything. Some kids with zero prior affiliation with the school, who will leave for more money, did.
LMAO
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Barnacle said:

taylorswift13_ said:

General Jack D. Ripper said:

taylorswift13_ said:

For F's sake you have Aggies in the stands lecturing you if you boo someone


How would booing help this program? People express their displeasure and disappointment well enough on this site.

Why do you want to lower yourself to win some football games? Is that an adequate trade? You lose your humanity acting like a fool booing everything and cussing out players, coaches and refs in front of your family.

Let's just assume that acting like a jackass will help the team win. So what? You didn't win anything. Some kids with zero prior affiliation with the school, who will leave for more money, did.
we roll into Death Valley or Austin next year and our team is getting booed, heckled at, yelled at, but when teams come to Kyle Field we for some reason we are supposed to HISS at them… Hiss??? A referee makes a bad call what do we do, we hiss at them. That'll teach them!


It's funny how we gas lit each other into thinking a hiss is "classy" but a "boo" is not. It's the same as people who think there's a difference between the words "dookie" and "s***." Well, this program should get booed until it's no longer dookie.
This is what happens when you don't teach what a "euphemism" is. Yet another slight at Aggie education.
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You know we would have won if we could have worn our black uniforms
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While I agree we are a mediocre program, it is threads such as this that help me endure that mediocrity.
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Texmexag said:

It's the absolute reluctance to accept modernity. For Pete's sake we still argue about cheerleaders. People like the Rudder Association fight to keep us stuck in 1962. We focus our university marketing on the corps of cadets even though they represent less than 3 percent of the student body. Midnight yell has become a cringe event. Etc…
Cannot Blue Star this post enough.
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sincereag said:

Our culture was great when Jackie Sherrill was our head coach. He knew how to win at A&M and embraced all our traditions. He also hired damn good coordinators and assistants, in addition to getting great players. There's no secret to having success in coaching, but few seem to be able to make it happen at A&M.


Those players were students.
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infinity ag said:

Dark_Knight said:

infinity ag said:

taylorswift13_ said:

We are a soft fan base, soft administration, we care more about how we treat other teams, we care more about players who aren't elite whatsoever, but we're told they're amazing. We care more about honoring traditions, and having males be our cheerleaders. We care more about being nice. We don't care about winning, we seriously don't. A&M has non football minds making the football decision because they have money. For all the flack we give tu for letting their donors run the program, our program is worse when it comes to that. And we have Aggie media telling us every off season how this team is stronger, more physical, faster, and how the culture is completely different. This year is going to be different… nothing has changed and nothing will change. We are soft and we are not serious about winning.

I think more than all of that, we care more about "being classy" than "being winners".

Of course, not focusing on classy does not mean cheating. We should absolutely not cheat. But we love to virtue signal about how much of gentlemen we are.

Gentlemen do not get anything. Not even women these days, who want bad boys.
Weird take

Seems "weird" because you are not intelligent enough to understand it.

Take some time out, read it slowly and carefully, and you might be more successful in getting it.
Lol the ad hominem from the butthurt
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PanzerAggie06 said:

Hungry Ojos said:

You understand that you're proving his point with every post you make, right?
Shhhh.... when the opposition is making a fool of themselves let it go. Let them dig a deeper hole with their tired old excuses and good ol' Ag BS. It's fun to watch.
Ok diaper baby
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Dark_Knight said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

Hungry Ojos said:

You understand that you're proving his point with every post you make, right?
Shhhh.... when the opposition is making a fool of themselves let it go. Let them dig a deeper hole with their tired old excuses and good ol' Ag BS. It's fun to watch.
Ok diaper baby


Diaper baby? Hahahahhaha. Welcome to 1941 I suppose.

Jesus, your insults are as pathetic as your excuses grandpa.
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Yeah, if we just get some cheerleaders that you perverts can ogle and dump the corps, suddenly we'll start winning. It's just so simple.

If y'all hate A&M so much, why the **** did you ever step foot on campus?

This school can win. I believe it. I also believe there is a loser mentality that permeates lots of old Ags with money, but you're a ****ing twit if you think the problem is the cheerleaders and corps.
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Frok said:

It's definitely the coaching, we hire one bad one after another


Over the last 25 years, we've hired a coach from Bama, a successful NFL coach, the hottest young up &comer, a coach with an recent national championship, and then took a flyer on a coach with no history. We've tried hiring the best coordinators, buying the "greatest recruiting class of all time", built a new stadium, and sold out almost every game. None of this has worked.

It's definitely A&M. Nick Saban couldn't with the AAC at A&M.
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jaxisback said:

Some of you need to spend some time walking through the MSC and reflect a bit on what really matters.

Any Aggie that would trade what Texas A&M is for anything else really isn't an Aggie at all.

This is minor league pro football. Someday we might reach the top of the mountain or maybe not. Enjoy it for what it is, in the end it's of little importance.

The notion that our university should somehow morph its culture and traditions because that would lead to football success, I reject out of hand.
Im as pot banger 2 perecenter as anyone, but this is absolutely correct.

The school and its traditions is not the problem (except for maybe the focus on Texas in the War Hymn and all that stuff… they really do need to leave that behind. It's silly and unproductive and can actually hurt on the field)

Otherwise, it's a great place as is. Cheesy yell leaders and all.
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wangus12 said:

The Banned said:

Frok said:

It's definitely the coaching, we hire one bad one after another


Coaching is bad for sure… but why do we hire only bad ones and non good ones?


Because it would appear the good ones avoid us like the plague. It would seem they're right
This.

The motto of this athletic department should be, "Pretty Good is Good Enough"
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It's not the culture of the school overall. Our Vet school, business school, and petroleum engineering schools are some of the best in the country. You have to be good to get into and stay at the vet school, for instance. Mediocrity is not tolerated there.

But in the Athletic Department, this is not the case. There the culture is "just do pretty good"

If our vet school had the same culture as the athletic department, there'd be dead pets all over Texas.
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Stop giving a ***** It's really simple, and will serve your mental health well in the long run. After all, the donors and the Atheltics Dept don't, so why should you? When it affects their bottom line, things will change. Until then, spend that time and energy on a more productive hobby.
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I think it's the DJ's fault.
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PanzerAggie06 said:

Dark_Knight said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

Hungry Ojos said:

You understand that you're proving his point with every post you make, right?
Shhhh.... when the opposition is making a fool of themselves let it go. Let them dig a deeper hole with their tired old excuses and good ol' Ag BS. It's fun to watch.
Ok diaper baby


Diaper baby? Hahahahhaha. Welcome to 1941 I suppose.

Jesus, your insults are as pathetic as your excuses grandpa.
It suits you.

Keep crying and throwing your tantrum, diaper baby.
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There is a baseline level of elite players that will simply never consider A&M due the unique aspects of the school

It is what it is
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Sunshine, rainbows and unicorns.

That is the same ol same ol
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He's retiring this summer.
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I'm aware.

1. That's not soon enough imo.

2. He'll likely be replaced with a Sharp protge.
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WTF? Who has appointed you all things Aggie. I don't need to walk the quad, MSC, or visit Sully or Rudder.
Ain't nobody buying your sunshine, rainbows or unicorns. I will proudly wear any 2% label you or any other pumper thinks I deserve. But I will not violate the Aggie Code. I will not lie to myself about the quality of our football program. At best we are a minor program with deep pockets. I will not allow Aggie football to cheat me out of valuable limited times and will certainly not allow them to steal my $$$ with a less than product.


I am a 2 % and it is ok
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Jackie did have a do whatever is required attitude. It's been lost. For those of you that think it's dated, what is your opinion?
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I honestly have zero line of sight as to what goes on behind the scenes. A lot of fair criticisms about some of our culture and some of our traditions. But I don't see the link between not booing or "male cheerleaders " and losing. A lot of teams boo, have female cheerleaders and lose just fine.

Something is definitely off with the football program and the people that run the university though. Our last athletic Director, attempting to hire stoops after firing Jimbo , with no plan , was clearly a red flag to whatever is going on behind the scenes.
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aa4136 said:

But, our traditions are amazing and that sustains us. Why do you care about winning...its secondary!


Yep. Plus, we're very nice to opposing teams and their fans! That's all that matters. Hospitality and tradition come before winning.
My username checks out.
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We are basically the same program as:

Michigan State
Oregon State
Wisconsin
UCLA
Missouri

Sometimes move high enough in the rankings to get talked about but then forgotten pretty easily.
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Wisconsin and Sparty are cool. I don't mind that company.
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CapCity12thMan said:

We are basically the same program as:

Michigan State
Oregon State
Wisconsin
UCLA
Missouri

Sometimes move high enough in the rankings to get talked about but then forgotten pretty easily.


I don't think we in Sparty or Whisky category as both of those schools have actually played for something in the not too distant past. Mizzou has played for the SEC championship. We haven't played for ****ing anything since '98, and even that was a huge upset. We have gotten less out of more for 45 out of the 55 years I have followed the Ags.

We are basically Mississippi State, Purdue, or NC State with money.
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Quote:

If our vet school had the same culture as the athletic department, there'd be dead pets all over Texas.

HeyMoe doesn't post much anymore, but when he does...
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Nibblerweather said:

I honestly have zero line of sight as to what goes on behind the scenes. A lot of fair criticisms about some of our culture and some of our traditions. But I don't see the link between not booing and losing. A lot of teams boo, have female cheerleaders and lose just fine.


Allow me to demonstrate the link.

When you are watching the Donghorns beat your Aggies and whomever is deciding how a play at the goal line which is the same one that didn't work previously (ever) should be chosen/executed - and this idjit makes the absolutely brain-dead decision to pull a guard leaving a direct path for Donghorn players who are the strength of their program this year, to the Aggie backfield and also ensures that there is no possible way a yard can be obtained by having the quarterback go under center yet hands the ball to a small halfback five yards deep in the backfield (negating the under center advantage) then you would as a Donghorn if the role was reversed BOO quite a lot showing your displeasure and hopefully the embarrassment would lead to correction by the Hawthorne Effect next time. If many share this view and Boo loudly, the coaching staff usually realizes they screwed up and need to fix this because there is immediate verbal communication that the fan base is angry.

However, as an Aggie you cannot boo, and have to keep your mouth shut and hope that perhaps someone would post something on social media or texags that would somehow reach the staff personnel responsible and the correction would happen through osmosis and/or diffusion. This is absolute fantasy and will never correct the issue so this is why there is a link between immediate and proper communication that does not reward bad behavior, and the probability of winning the game so in essence - winning.
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Best in ball would be great.

But if that is what you demand from your college, why did you attend A&M? If it never wins, what is it that led you to believe your mere association with the school should change that? It wasn't a secret, so it must be you.

So don't blame A&M for your failure to bring ample mojo to campus when you came. That's your fault. Meanwhile, wait till next year.
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I guess it's a bit of a chicken and egg thing, whether you need to have long-term success first to create and fuel genuine high standards or if you need to be extra demanding as a prerequisite to becoming very successful in the first place. But damn, you see Ryan Day go 67-10 and he has already played in one national title game and might play for another in a few weeks and yet the overall sentiment is that he better win it all this year or else he might be fired. Or you see Mack Brown go 156-48 and come within a few thousandths of a BCS point from playing in 3 national title games and yet there is an long-running thread on the Texas board constantly mocking him for being such an underachiever. It's bitter. But then you come here and see a coach that went 52-28-1 40 years ago, had a bad record against ranked teams, won two total bowl games both against 8-4 teams, and was still getting routinely destroyed on the field in year 7, and yet there is practically a large cult dedicated to him. You just say his first name and they swoon.

This is like 2 rich kids passing a gold coin in the sand and not even bothering to pick it up and the kid trailing them sees a nickel and dives on it and says "Woohoo!!! Look what I got!!!!"

 
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