• Texas: +350
• Ohio State: +380
• Oregon: +400
• Penn State: +450
• Georgia: +500
• Notre Dame: +600
• Boise State: +6000
• Arizona State: +7000

Rose Bowl - Oregon (-1.5) vs. Ohio State

Fiesta Bowl - Penn State (-11.5) vs. Boise State

Sugar Bowl - Notre Dame (-1.5) vs. Georgia

Peach Bowl - Texas (-13.5) vs. Arizona State

I'm surprised ND is favored over Georgia.

Coppell97 said:

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I'm surprised ND is favored over Georgia.

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More to do with ND money than anything.

Safest investment in the world is to bet against the sips.

LB12Diamond said:

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Coppell97 said:

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Nice job by the committee. The teams with byes are double digit underdogs. Well done CFP committee and playoff system.

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That is the 4 conference champ rule that was put in place to justify having conference champ games. Has nothing to do with the committee. Just money, always money.

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An attempt by the four conferences not named SEC to save themselves from a crushing realignment. It actually is a good idea to avoid a huge anti-trust loss. And it takes decisions out of the have of the committee.

tOSU being 3rd in the new B1G is what throws this off
The 1 seed gets the winner of the 3 SECvs3 B1G
PSU and tu got into their CCG partly because of catching a favorable schedule #2 SEC & B1G being 5&6 is reasonable

If the committee ground rules didn't include the bye for the four highest ranked conference champions and it was just the four highest ranked teams, they could keep their automatic qualifier rules and (hopefully) get much better first round matchups. The 5-12 and 6-11 games might still be blowouts but the 7-10 and 8-9 games would have a good chance of being competitive.
This would also be fairer to the #1 seed and not give the 5-seed a huge advantage.

This year's field was also weakened by Alabama and Ole Miss, two teams with the potential to win it all, losing games they had no business losing and thus getting left out. This allowed the committee to gift the ACC two spots when it clearly didn't deserve them.

They HAVE to get better at rankings and then the seeding process.

I would like to see 16 highest ranked teams for more than one reason. Plus, no auto bids, no byes. Maybe a home game for first round games but that's it.

Based on the SECCG, I would think that would increase the odds in Georgia's favor.

I see UGA favored by 2 over ND

They need to go to 16 teams with no byes and proper seeding. This year should have been:

1 Oregon v 16 Arizona State
8 Texas v 9 Alabama

4 Penn St v 13 Iowa State
5 Tennessee v 10 Indiana

2 Georgia v 15 Boise
7 Miami v 10 Mississippi

3 Notre Dame v 14 Clemson
6 Ohio State v 11 South Carolina

Starting a backup QB that now has film out on his play is incredibly different than throwing him out spur of the moment

Coppell97 said:

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I'm surprised ND is favored over Georgia.

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Unknown on the Georgia QB as well. One thing to come in at 1/2 when the other team hasn''t prepared for you (see Reed against LSU). Another thing to start when a team has prepped for it. Does mean Stockton can't get it done, just that they are factoring in the unknown.

Oregon vs Ohio State is gonna be a hell of a game. Really want to see Oregon vs sips to see if sips defense can keep up with that offense of Oregon

Coppell97 said:

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Nice job by the committee. The teams with byes are double digit underdogs. Well done CFP committee and playoff system.

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Like 98% of what has been posted on here the last 2 days, that is an overreaction by the odds makers and by those like you who are looking for things to complain about. While PLAYING rather than sitting home (imagine that), Ohio State looked good, Penn State and Notre Dame looked decent, and t.u. looked at least good enough to beat Arizona State in the minds of these folks. This is without knowing how those that didn't play would have performed. Do you really think t.u. would be a double digit favorite over ASU had ASU beaten Clemson by 2-3 TDs -- especially after t.u.'s loss to UGa being their last game? You don't buy t.u. being a media darling like everyone else on here?

Once again, the committee is getting dogged for stuff that really isn't an issue, or is being made one by those who are very short-sighted.

91AggieLawyer said:

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Coppell97 said:

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Nice job by the committee. The teams with byes are double digit underdogs. Well done CFP committee and playoff system.

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Like 98% of what has been posted on here the last 2 days, that is an overreaction by the odds makers and by those like you who are looking for things to complain about. While PLAYING rather than sitting home (imagine that), Ohio State looked good, Penn State and Notre Dame looked decent, and t.u. looked at least good enough to beat Arizona State in the minds of these folks. This is without knowing how those that didn't play would have performed. Do you really think t.u. would be a double digit favorite over ASU had ASU beaten Clemson by 2-3 TDs -- especially after t.u.'s loss to UGa being their last game? You don't buy t.u. being a media darling like everyone else on here?

Once again, the committee is getting dogged for stuff that really isn't an issue, or is being made one by those who are very short-sighted.

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Yes.

LB12Diamond said:

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Coppell97 said:

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Nice job by the committee. The teams with byes are double digit underdogs. Well done CFP committee and playoff system.

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That is the 4 conference champ rule that was put in place to justify having conference champ games. Has nothing to do with the committee. Just money, always money.

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I hope they change it. Just rank them 1 to 12 and then guarantee a 11 or 12 seed if the winner of a bad conference doesn't get in by seeding alone.

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LB12Diamond said:

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Coppell97 said:

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Nice job by the committee. The teams with byes are double digit underdogs. Well done CFP committee and playoff system.

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That is the 4 conference champ rule that was put in place to justify having conference champ games. Has nothing to do with the committee. Just money, always money.

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I hope they change it. Just rank them 1 to 12 and then guarantee a 11 or 12 seed if the winner of a bad conference doesn't get in by seeding alone.

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Why bump a better team for a bad conference who doesn't play well enough to earn the ranking?

Lol

I have decent money on Texas to win it all. Placed in October.

That wager is getting better by the minute.

91AggieLawyer said:

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Do you really think t.u. would be a double digit favorite over ASU had ASU beaten Clemson by 2-3 TDs -- especially after t.u.'s loss to UGa being their last game? You don't buy t.u. being a media darling like everyone else on here?

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Betting lines are set to what the odd makers based on facts/metrics. Sometimes they have it wrong initially and the lines have large swings but this is typically due to something unknown. Rarely do lines move greatly from what is set.

Even the SEC CCG had texas a favorite. If they played tomorrow, texas would be a favorite. Nothing this weekend would have changed that texas is a 2 td better team based on facts/metrics.

There is nothing about betting lines that takes into account media darlings, biased officials, or some other subjective ideas.

Lets be honest, if texas played in the Big 12 or ACC, they would be undefeated. Just like tOSU, they may have some bad games but they just have better talent across the board than ASU.

greg.w.h said:

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LB12Diamond said:

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Coppell97 said:

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Nice job by the committee. The teams with byes are double digit underdogs. Well done CFP committee and playoff system.

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That is the 4 conference champ rule that was put in place to justify having conference champ games. Has nothing to do with the committee. Just money, always money.

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An attempt by the four conferences not named SEC to save themselves from a crushing realignment. It actually is a good idea to avoid a huge anti-trust loss. And it takes decisions out of the have of the committee.

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Give the 4 highest conf champs byes but set up the 2nd round game by actual playoff ranking, so you get this in the 2nd round

Oregon vs az st
Georgia vs Boise
Texas vs notre dame
Ohio st vs Penn st

Seems a lot fairer to the higher ranked teams than what we have now with number 1 Oregon having to play Ohio st and number 2 Georgia having to play notre dame while Texas gets az st and Penn st gets Boise

Seems completely unfair

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They need to go to 16 teams with no byes and proper seeding. This year should have been:

1 Oregon v 16 Arizona State
8 Texas v 9 Alabama

4 Penn St v 13 Iowa State
5 Tennessee v 10 Indiana

2 Georgia v 15 Boise
7 Miami v 10 Mississippi

3 Notre Dame v 14 Clemson
6 Ohio State v 11 South Carolina

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where did you come up with this weird ranking?

Dad said:

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LB12Diamond said:

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Coppell97 said:

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Nice job by the committee. The teams with byes are double digit underdogs. Well done CFP committee and playoff system.

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That is the 4 conference champ rule that was put in place to justify having conference champ games. Has nothing to do with the committee. Just money, always money.

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I hope they change it. Just rank them 1 to 12 and then guarantee a 11 or 12 seed if the winner of a bad conference doesn't get in by seeding alone.

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Then they will get the complaint that CCG are devalued.

The problem is this playoff is set up in the best interest of the conferences as first priority and then the best way to keep bowls involved, and not the best way to select a champion and maintain value in regular season.

UltimateSuperGenius said:

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Safest investment in the world is to bet against the sips.

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Thy did cover vs Clemson. Cost me.

That said, I think ASU actually wins. The Austinites are beat up pretty bad. ASU will be fresh. RB will wear them down and they will shorten the game to limit Texas' possessions.

27-20 Sun Devils.

Will load up on the +14.5 and put a little fun bet on ML.

A 12-team (or larger) playoff with auto-bids is dumb to begin with, so might as well just drop the first round byes, add two second round byes, and call it a day. That would give us two more home playoffs games also, which would be another small win.

8 teams max.

Conference champs guaranteed in...but need to figure out conference stuff first, and what conferences get an auto bid. SEC, B10..as crappy as the ACC and B12 are...they get an auto bid as well. Maybe give an auto bid to the next highest ranked conference champ. Then 3 at large teams.

7 out the 12 teams this year have (had) exactly 0% chance of winning it all...Clemson, SMU, PSU, ASU, IU, BSU, UTen.

I know it's only about money, but 12 is too watered down, 16 is worse.

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91AggieLawyer said:

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Do you really think t.u. would be a double digit favorite over ASU had ASU beaten Clemson by 2-3 TDs -- especially after t.u.'s loss to UGa being their last game? You don't buy t.u. being a media darling like everyone else on here?

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Betting lines are set to what the odd makers based on facts/metrics. Sometimes they have it wrong initially and the lines have large swings but this is typically due to something unknown. Rarely do lines move greatly from what is set.

Even the SEC CCG had texas a favorite. If they played tomorrow, texas would be a favorite. Nothing this weekend would have changed that texas is a 2 td better team based on facts/metrics.

There is nothing about betting lines that takes into account media darlings, biased officials, or some other subjective ideas.

Lets be honest, if texas played in the Big 12 or ACC, they would be undefeated. Just like tOSU, they may have some bad games but they just have better talent across the board than ASU.

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The odds makers use whatever metrics they have to get even amounts of money bet on both teams. That is how they set the line and it adjusts accordingly when money flows too heavily one way or the other.

To that end, if there is enough near term buzz about a team. it could affect the line if the oddsmakers think that the buzz would impact bettors. Of course, since sip bettors have an overinflated view of the sips, it probably wouldn't impact a line that they are involved in.

Since I don't bet, I have no idea what facts/metrics that hard core bettors use to sway their betting emotions.

I do know for a fact that one should never bet on the Ags in anything.

The winner of tu vs. OSU or Oregon will win the title.

I heard it said earlier this year that it is "rare" that one "good" team will lose to another "good" team twice in once year.

TX lost to UGA twice, so I like that. I just hope that Oregon can beat tOSU again. They definitely have a tough matchup compared to what the sips have vs ASU.

The Zuko Dog will continue to visit The Duck every Saturday to pay homage and hope for an Oregon win.