Ah yes, another thread where we pretend that Nolen, Stewart, and the gang are all busts because we're butthurt that they transferred out. Some posters really showing that they don't know ball.

The Marksman said:

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Ah yes, another thread where we pretend that Nolen, Stewart, and the gang are all busts because we're butthurt that they transferred out. Some posters really showing that they don't know ball.

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2 out of 8… Zoo math.

Overton reclassified not Sylla. Sylla never was a 5 star.

Nolan is not a bust, he had a pretty good season

TXAGBQ76 said:

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Nolan is not a bust, he had a pretty good season

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ok ok we all get it. There was 1 guy that might make his projection. Still the vast majority were a bust which was the point. But I personally would not want my team taking Nolen with a 1st round pick in the draft.

If we had kept those guys we'd be in the playoffs…

I agree about Lucas and Marshall haven't they been asked to leave by two schools each now, and of course Stewart has failed to impress at two schools now.
Don't what got in to CW's head, he looks totally out of it on the sidelines all season.

That class wasn't a bust in terms of talent, it was a bust in terms of us squandering it, we lost to app state lol.

If you suck, your best players will most likely claim injury, and then portal out (claim injury to get a medical red shirt)

You saw it from UF
You're seeing it from OU
LSU is going to deal with kids just not wanting to suck
FSU is another example
There's plenty of more

TXAGBQ76 said:

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I agree about Lucas and Marshall haven't they been asked to leave by two schools each now, and of course Stewart has failed to impress at two schools now.
Don't what got in to CW's head, he looks totally out of it on the sidelines all season.

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Ues, and this doesn't even include Denver Harris, Demond Demas, Smoke Bouie and a bunch of others I'm forgetting.

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If we had kept those guys we'd be in the playoffs…

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Evan Stewart would've helped our WR room out a lot. Nolen would've been good too but not sure we would've gotten Scourton if he stayed so it's a wash.

I don't think the playoffs were happening this year regardless. We needed Moss in a bad way, amongst other things.

We put a ton of guys in the pros in the 70's 80's and 90's.

Absolutely. Is PJ Williams still at SMU. He was the one who led cops in a high speed chase, finally pulled over with a pound of pot, paraphernalia and I believe a pistol. If I remember correctly Denver was with him,

Nolen and Scourton don't play the same position. Why would that have mattered

How do folks still not understand that Fisher was not doing his job after he landed the 5 stars.

He failed to develop players. PERIOD!

It's a good thing that "The Best That Never Was" is already a title of another 30-for-30.

They're going to have to be more creative.

Im thinking "The Best That Never Were" might be appropriate.

Seems to happen quite often when the pressure to recruit "talent" outweighs the character of the talent involved. Ask Jimmy Johnson, Mack Brown, Jimbo, ……we'll see if Sark gets a taste., NIL will only amplify this.

Bill Superman said:

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Jimbo brought in an epic number of 5* talents that amounted to either absolutely nothing or ended up playing like a 3*.

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One must remember that our last Heisman Trophy winner was a three star.

I Ewers even worth drafting period?

Deer in the headlights when pressured…we just couldn't get there enough (we did get 2 turnovers though)…

You have a lot of hot takes. Incorrect takes. But, hot nonetheless. So, who hurt you today?

Evan Stewart has scored 11 career touchdowns in 3 seasons

with a few games still to go in his junior year

Bill Superman said:

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Jimbo brought in an epic number of 5* talents that amounted to either absolutely nothing or ended up playing like a 3*.

They will no doubt make a documentary on the highest rated class of all time in '22. There's not a single 5* talent from that class left on this team outside of Shemar Stewart, who is likely draft bound now. But even he didn't quite live up to his billing.

Walter Nolen
Evan Stewart
Shemar Stewart
Connor Weigman
GBD
LV Overton
Chris Marshal
Anthony Lucas

These guys didn't just transfer, they're all busts. Shemar is the best of the bunch and that's not saying much. Evan Stewart and Walter Nolen play like a 3*.

Malick Sylla was the top rated 5* in '23 then reclassified to '22 and dropped to 4*.

The amount of 5* busts is inexplicable. And don't get me started on all the other 5* busts that have come through Aggieland. That 5* label doesn't seem to mean much these days.

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Evan Stewart is far from a bust at Oregon. Tez is their stud, but Even has done well there.

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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that 22 class is an absolute failure on every front.

the players lack of discipline
coaches lack of coaching
recruiting sites evaluations

just a tragic miss on every level.

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You forgot to add, that after that 30M dollar failure, the big cigars are hesitant to pay top dollar anymore

Bill Superman said:

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Jimbo brought in an epic number of 5* talents that amounted to either absolutely nothing or ended up playing like a 3*.

They will no doubt make a documentary on the highest rated class of all time in '22. There's not a single 5* talent from that class left on this team outside of Shemar Stewart, who is likely draft bound now. But even he didn't quite live up to his billing.

Walter Nolen
Evan Stewart
Shemar Stewart
Connor Weigman
GBD
LV Overton
Chris Marshal
Anthony Lucas

These guys didn't just transfer, they're all busts. Shemar is the best of the bunch and that's not saying much. Evan Stewart and Walter Nolen play like a 3*.

Malick Sylla was the top rated 5* in '23 then reclassified to '22 and dropped to 4*.

The amount of 5* busts is inexplicable. And don't get me started on all the other 5* busts that have come through Aggieland. That 5* label doesn't seem to mean much these days.

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You don't watch a lot of football Nolen, Stewart and Overton are stars on their new teams.

The Banned said:

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Again, Nolen just had his best year playing a tougher schedule than we did

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Tougher schedule?

Ole Miss played Georgia, we played Texas, push
Ole miss played wake OOC we played notre dame : big edge Ags
Both teams played at South Carolina and at Florida

Both teams played Arkansas, lsu and Miss st. Slight edge to ole Miss for having lsu and ark on the road ; we got lsu at home and ark neutral

Ol miss played Oklahoma we played mizzou: edge to A&M

Ole Miss played Kentucky at home we played Auburn on the road: edge to Ags

Looking at the schedules, I'd argue that ours was definitely tougher

The 2022 class wasn't a bust in terms of talent. It was a bust in terms of squandering the No. 1 recruiting class with a home loss to Appalachian State and 5-7 (2-6 SEC) finish. Walter Nolen and Evan Stewart have become productive starters on their new teams. Roster management requires recruiting the right players, adding depth through the transfer portal, retaining these players, and developing them.

Yeah, at least five of those were just bad characters- they skipped curfew before the Miami game and partied at Prairie View, vaping HTC in the usc locker room after the game we lost, arrested for drifting in the parking garage, pot, high speed chase with a pound of pot, paraphernalia and a pistol, etc. three of them were kicked out of their second schools (one before they ever practiced)- which begs the question of what did the have to do to get kicked out of lsu and ole miss?

speaking of the 2022 class...

can someone explain Bryce Anderson?

4-star safety that stayed with the program...which is good...

but he seems to be an average-type player...outside of the pick 6 vs. Florida

This is why Elko is going to concentrate on proven players via the transfer portal!

W said:

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speaking of the 2022 class...

can someone explain Bryce Anderson?

4-star safety that stayed with the program...which is good...

but he seems to be an average-type player...outside of the pick 6 vs. Florida

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He's a starter for a solid SEC defense. That alone makes you one of the best in the country. He, like many other starting players in the SEC, just never became elite. I think he fits the 4 star rating

No they haven't. Check any other site or forum and it is brought up on a regular basis. You just live in a bubble surrounded by people who want to forget about it.

Bill Superman said:

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Ugly said:

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Bill Superman said:

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Jimbo brought in an epic number of 5* talents that amounted to either absolutely nothing or ended up playing like a 3*.

They will no doubt make a documentary on the highest rated class of all time in '22. There's not a single 5* talent from that class left on this team outside of Shemar Stewart, who is likely draft bound now. But even he didn't quite live up to his billing.

Walter Nolen
Evan Stewart
Shemar Stewart
Connor Weigman
GBD
LV Overton
Chris Marshal
Anthony Lucas

These guys didn't just transfer, they're all busts. Shemar is the best of the bunch and that's not saying much. Evan Stewart and Walter Nolen play like a 3*.

Malick Sylla was the top rated 5* in '23 then reclassified to '22 and dropped to 4*.

The amount of 5* busts is inexplicable. And don't get me started on all the other 5* busts that have come through Aggieland. That 5* label doesn't seem to mean much these days.

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Roughly half of 5* players get drafted, and maybe 1 out of every 6 gets drafted in the first round. Of that list, Nolen is likely to be drafted first round, and both Stewarts should get drafted as well as LT Overton. Maybe Anthony Lucas as well. That is pretty consistent with the average hit rate for 5* overall.

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Well, sounds like any bozo in the zoo could take just as good of a guess as the media heads and be just as accurate with those numbers. Maybe I'm just not as impressed by that as y'all are.

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Alright, bet. There are 427 4* recruits in the 247 composite rankings right now. About 20% of those are expected to end up drafted. Put together your list of 85 players and we'll see if you manage a 50% hit rate.

RARay said:

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Bill Superman said:

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Ugly said:

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Bill Superman said:

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Jimbo brought in an epic number of 5* talents that amounted to either absolutely nothing or ended up playing like a 3*.

They will no doubt make a documentary on the highest rated class of all time in '22. There's not a single 5* talent from that class left on this team outside of Shemar Stewart, who is likely draft bound now. But even he didn't quite live up to his billing.

Walter Nolen
Evan Stewart
Shemar Stewart
Connor Weigman
GBD
LV Overton
Chris Marshal
Anthony Lucas

These guys didn't just transfer, they're all busts. Shemar is the best of the bunch and that's not saying much. Evan Stewart and Walter Nolen play like a 3*.

Malick Sylla was the top rated 5* in '23 then reclassified to '22 and dropped to 4*.

The amount of 5* busts is inexplicable. And don't get me started on all the other 5* busts that have come through Aggieland. That 5* label doesn't seem to mean much these days.

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Roughly half of 5* players get drafted, and maybe 1 out of every 6 gets drafted in the first round. Of that list, Nolen is likely to be drafted first round, and both Stewarts should get drafted as well as LT Overton. Maybe Anthony Lucas as well. That is pretty consistent with the average hit rate for 5* overall.

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Well, sounds like any bozo in the zoo could take just as good of a guess as the media heads and be just as accurate with those numbers. Maybe I'm just not as impressed by that as y'all are.

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Alright, bet. There are 427 4* recruits in the 247 composite rankings right now. About 20% of those are expected to end up drafted. Put together your list of 85 players and we'll see if you manage a 50% hit rate.

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I bet that there are a whole lot more great players out of those 427 than there are out of the 32 awarded the big 5 star. Even zoo math can't get around those odds.

An analysis was done on this using 4 random draft classes from 2010 to 2021

% of each star rating class that ended up being drafted:
5* 61%
4* 23%
3* 5.1%
2* .5%

In this sampling, when looking at total players drafted, more 4* and 5* players are drafted than 3* players despite being outnumbered by 3* prospects ~8300 to ~1400. When you consider that the rating sites are analyzing HS players across the entire country, I'd say these numbers are pretty damn impressive.

https://lastwordonsports.com/collegefootball/2021/07/12/what-do-those-star-ratings-mean/

The Banned said:

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An analysis was done on this using 4 random draft classes from 2010 to 2021

% of each star rating class that ended up being drafted:
5* 61%
4* 23%
3* 5.1%
2* .5%

In this sampling, when looking at total players drafted, more 4* and 5* players are drafted than 3* players despite being outnumbered by 3* prospects ~8300 to ~1400. When you consider that the rating sites are analyzing HS players across the entire country, I'd say these numbers are pretty damn impressive.

https://lastwordonsports.com/collegefootball/2021/07/12/what-do-those-star-ratings-mean/

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Now do our busted class.

Bill Superman said:

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The Banned said:

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An analysis was done on this using 4 random draft classes from 2010 to 2021

% of each star rating class that ended up being drafted:
5* 61%
4* 23%
3* 5.1%
2* .5%

In this sampling, when looking at total players drafted, more 4* and 5* players are drafted than 3* players despite being outnumbered by 3* prospects ~8300 to ~1400. When you consider that the rating sites are analyzing HS players across the entire country, I'd say these numbers are pretty damn impressive.

https://lastwordonsports.com/collegefootball/2021/07/12/what-do-those-star-ratings-mean/

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Now do our busted class.

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And as I've said here and on other threads, that's on the coaches. We are the first team in modern CFB to not win a championship after a #1 class. It takes next level **** coaching to pull that off.

That said, we'll have to see what happens with the guys getting fresh starts elsewhere. I think when it's all said and done we're going to end up very close to those numbers.