vander54 said:

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Auburn's defense is good but not THAT good and their offense is horrendous. The game may be closer than it should be but it would take a lot for us to lose out.

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Stats don't support your position. This is why it's a 3 point spread

Haricougar said:

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vander54 said:

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Auburn's defense is good but not THAT good and their offense is horrendous. The game may be closer than it should be but it would take a lot for us to lose out.

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https://storage.googleapis.com/secsports-prod/upload/2024/11/18/bc341a89-05aa-48a2-b3f6-a04c9da9b620.pdf

Stats don't support your position. This is why it's a 3 point spread

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Funny because the stats actually do support what I said. And I posted them in detail. (Turns out they were on another thread)

They put up yards on offense but can't score. They are TO happy and allow a lot of sacks. They have a good run defense but their pass defense is average. Overall their defense is probably the 5th best defense we've faced so far.

But I think the 3 point spread is accurate.

Yep... like he will be 4 to 5 inches taller than the DB over the top and the safety underneath that both tackled him immediately (double coverage), if anyone 6 foot or under ran that route it would not have worked out like it did

The argument is that he had the DB beat, but he didn't, they dropped 8 and the safety dipped, there was always the outside defender over the top he just had to take an angle and got beat well after the ball was thrown. I know you are supposed to throw people open and put it where they are gonna be but it is factually incorrect to say he had the coverage beat and that is why the ball was thrown

Trolls are intentionally incorrect and grow tired of being so

I never get tired of being right. So fun when you have tape as evidence

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Defenders were beat but closing and had 0 chance at intercepting the ball or breaking up the pass. Great read and great throw.

Ok now show the angle from the endzone where the outside DB is 10 feet deeper than Thomas when the ball is thrown

OMB100GAS said:

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Ok now show the angle from the endzone where the outside DB is 10 feet deeper than Thomas when the ball is thrown

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I am glad you are not a coach


Also I'd love for you to post the video

I think you missed some critical information, it's not whether or not it was a good play or even the correct read, I have stated clearly Thomas was the hot route, but to say Thomas had the coverage beat when the ball was thrown into double coverage is hilarious and the fact remains the 3 other options were higher percentage throws

Dude who cares if the flat was open. Noah beat the defenders and Reed made an almost perfect pass.

The flat, the drag, and the comeback. You should care if you expect to see that pass thrown more often. You take those low percentage throws fully understanding they will be incompletions a lot of the time. Would rather the incompletion not be over double coverage

OMB100GAS said:

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The flat, the drag, and the comeback. You should care if you expect to see that pass thrown more often. You take those low percentage throws fully understanding they will be incompletions a lot of the time. Would rather the incompletion not be over double coverage

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You are not as smart as you think.

And there's a good saying that goes

"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."

OMB100GAS said:

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I think you missed some critical information, it's not whether or not it was a good play or even the correct read, I have stated clearly Thomas was the hot route, but to say Thomas had the coverage beat when the ball was thrown into double coverage is hilarious and the fact remains the 3 other options were higher percentage throws

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Of all the plays we have seen this year, that is the play you are picking on??? You can't be serious. That was one of the best passes we have seen all season.

Give it a rest dude. Take the L and move on.

It was a great play and a nice pass. Quit trying to make like it was a bad play because it was not.

vander54 said:

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Haricougar said:

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vander54 said:

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Auburn's defense is good but not THAT good and their offense is horrendous. The game may be closer than it should be but it would take a lot for us to lose out.

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https://storage.googleapis.com/secsports-prod/upload/2024/11/18/bc341a89-05aa-48a2-b3f6-a04c9da9b620.pdf

Stats don't support your position. This is why it's a 3 point spread

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Funny because the stats actually do support what I said. And I posted them in detail. (Turns out they were on another thread)

They put up yards on offense but can't score. They are TO happy and allow a lot of sacks. They have a good run defense but their pass defense is average. Overall their defense is probably the 5th best defense we've faced so far.

But I think the 3 point spread is accurate.

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USCe gave up a lot of sacks too before we played them and we couldn't sack Sellers to save our arse.

aglaes said:

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vander54 said:

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Haricougar said:

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vander54 said:

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Auburn's defense is good but not THAT good and their offense is horrendous. The game may be closer than it should be but it would take a lot for us to lose out.

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https://storage.googleapis.com/secsports-prod/upload/2024/11/18/bc341a89-05aa-48a2-b3f6-a04c9da9b620.pdf

Stats don't support your position. This is why it's a 3 point spread

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Funny because the stats actually do support what I said. And I posted them in detail. (Turns out they were on another thread)

They put up yards on offense but can't score. They are TO happy and allow a lot of sacks. They have a good run defense but their pass defense is average. Overall their defense is probably the 5th best defense we've faced so far.

But I think the 3 point spread is accurate.

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USCe gave up a lot of sacks too before we played them and we couldn't sack Sellers to save our arse.

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The Aggie defense was absolutely terrible against USC.

The OP talks about terrible O once again and makes a comment how good our D is. I find that laughable.

In the loss to USC it was the defense that was the biggest disappointment for me. Our D should be much better than they were in that game.

aglaes said:

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vander54 said:

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Haricougar said:

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vander54 said:

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Auburn's defense is good but not THAT good and their offense is horrendous. The game may be closer than it should be but it would take a lot for us to lose out.

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https://storage.googleapis.com/secsports-prod/upload/2024/11/18/bc341a89-05aa-48a2-b3f6-a04c9da9b620.pdf

Stats don't support your position. This is why it's a 3 point spread

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Funny because the stats actually do support what I said. And I posted them in detail. (Turns out they were on another thread)

They put up yards on offense but can't score. They are TO happy and allow a lot of sacks. They have a good run defense but their pass defense is average. Overall their defense is probably the 5th best defense we've faced so far.

But I think the 3 point spread is accurate.

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USCe gave up a lot of sacks too before we played them and we couldn't sack Sellers to save our arse.

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Good thing Thorne isn't a 6'3" 242 lbs dual threat QB

Didn't say it was a bad play, I just don't think it was the best decision considering the other options. Glad it worked out, glad we have such a large target and a QB that likes to send it

We have various ways to measure intelligence, so I don't need your input but I think you completely misunderstand the nature of the internet, message boards, the zoo - we're all fools some are just more right than others

OMB100GAS said:

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Didn't say it was a bad play, I just don't think it was the best decision considering the other options. Glad it worked out, glad we have such a large target and a QB that likes to send it

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You are acting like he only succeeded because he was lucky that Noah is a tall target which is total BS.

He knew who he was throwing it to. Mike Evans was a big target. Do Johnny's long passes to him not count either?

I still can't believe of all plays that is the one you are hanging your hat on and saying there were better plays to be made. That is utterly ridiculous.

Ian Neff said:

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We're gonna win 9 games this season.

Sheesh.

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Plus a bowl game?

Onionman said:

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OMB100GAS said:

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Didn't say it was a bad play, I just don't think it was the best decision considering the other options. Glad it worked out, glad we have such a large target and a QB that likes to send it

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You are acting like he only succeeded because he was lucky that Noah is a tall target which is total BS.

He knew who he was throwing it to. Mike Evans was a big target. Do Johnny's long passes to him not count either?

I still can't believe of all plays that is the one you are hanging your hat on and saying there were better plays to be made. That is utterly ridiculous.

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I don't think he likes QBs making higher risk/high reward passes. The read and pass were nearly flawless on that play. And the result was great.

no hats being hung, plenty more pressing concerns to discuss and have been discussed. But yes, the only reason the pass was successful was because of Thomas and yes Evans absolutely bailed out Johnny on many notable occasions this is common knowledge, specifically Bama 2014 Kyle Field where I was on the sideline

vander54 said:

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Onionman said:

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OMB100GAS said:

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Didn't say it was a bad play, I just don't think it was the best decision considering the other options. Glad it worked out, glad we have such a large target and a QB that likes to send it

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You are acting like he only succeeded because he was lucky that Noah is a tall target which is total BS.

He knew who he was throwing it to. Mike Evans was a big target. Do Johnny's long passes to him not count either?

I still can't believe of all plays that is the one you are hanging your hat on and saying there were better plays to be made. That is utterly ridiculous.

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I don't think he likes QBs making higher risk/high reward passes. The read and pass were nearly flawless on that play. And the reult was great.

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I'm just baffled at this argument. Taking a great play and trying to act like it was a bad play.

So many other plays he could pick on and he is hanging his hat on this one. It's so bad I'm starting to think he is just trolling.

OMB100GAS said:

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no hats being hung, plenty more pressing concerns to discuss and have been discussed. But yes, the only reason the pass was successful was because of Thomas and yes Evans absolutely bailed out Johnny on many notable occasions this is common knowledge, specifically Bama 2014 Kyle Field where I was on the sideline

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I stepped into this debate late and have no skin in this debate. But you get a big fat L on this one.

Your points are terrible. It was a good pass. No one was close to intercepting like you said. It wasn't caught just because Noah is tall.

I disagree with all your points. Go find a play that was actually a bad read and a bad pass. There are many out there. But no, you would rather take one of the best plays we have seen and rip it apart.

An interesting generalization, we are talking about a freshman QB completing less than 60% of passes but in general when mounting a comeback I would expect conservative play unless time was very short

You should probably just step away since you aren't listening. I'm not saying it was a bad play, you don't have to agree with me, I'm just pointing out facts

OMB100GAS said:

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An interesting generalization, we are talking about a freshman QB completing less than 60% of passes but in general when mounting a comeback I would expect conservative play unless time was very short

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What comeback? We were up 5 at that point and it was the first play after LSUs final TD. Also at that point Reed hadn't turned the ball over and always overthrew the receiver when he missed. Very little risk the more i think about it.

OMB100GAS said:

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You should probably just step away since you aren't listening. I'm not saying it was a bad play, you don't have to agree with me, I'm just pointing out facts

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Opinions are not facts. The only fact you brought was that there were other passes he could had made.

OMB100GAS said:

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You should probably just step away since you aren't listening. I'm not saying it was a bad play, you don't have to agree with me, I'm just pointing out facts

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I will step away as I am tired.

But I did read your points and they are flat out terrible. You sound like a troll. If you are not a troll you sound like you don't know anything about football, regardless of how many sidelines you stood on.

By the way, you don't know what a fact is either. But you are entitled to your opinions and have a good night.

The comeback we made against LSU, where we had just taken the lead and were looking to keep it. So throwing the ball deep, second pass, double coverage... ballsy move. Glad it worked out the way it did, good play call and execution, I personally think the higher percentage throw is the better play in that situation is all

And that Thomas did not beat the coverage until ball was well into the air

I'm still here...if I read this post first I wouldn't have given you such a hard time.

But what I read earlier from you was garbage, IMO. Just my opinionated non factual 2 cents.

Have a good night.

Trolls are only trolls if they are wrong, have a good night!