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Doubledown 2447 said:

Seems legit to me except I'm surprised how high Bama is. Not after analysis, just because they seem to be having an Off for Bama year


Bama has 4 top 25 wins and 3 easy games left on the schedule (Mercer, at OU, Auburn)

They are almost assuredly in
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Fanatic15...Drs2B! said:

All these Texas Aggie CFP likelihood estimates are based on others' assessments of the likelihood that the Ags beat tu on the 30th.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

They don't believe we can do it.

I believe we will do it - AFTER we take care of business against NM State this weekend the at Auburn the following Saturday.

We win these next three games and it is 95% that we are IN the CFP - with the remaining 5% chance we don't make it only coming into play if we are somehow embarrassed by our opponent in the SEC Championship Game.
But then explain the Georgia and Tennessee numbers. Georgia has lost 2 of 3 "big boy" games so far. If they lose to Tennessee, their chances go to virtually zero (or at least they should for losing 3 of 4 to the big boys). With how they have done to date this season, would you give them a >70% confidence of beating Tennessee?

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Iraq2xVeteran said:

ESPN FI gives us only a 14.3% of making the playoffs because it gives us a 61.9% chance to win a road game at Texas, but just a 22.8% chance to win a home game against Texas at home. We control our own destiny by winning out.

Auburn has lost 5 consecutive Power 4 home games to Alabama, Cal, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Vanderbilt. Also, Hugh Freeze is 1-7 in Power 4 home games, and his only Power 4 home win was a 27-13 win over Mississippi State on 10/28/2023. Auburn's only Power 4 win of the season is a 24-10 road win at Kentucky on 10/26. For these reasons, we will probably be a double-digit road favorite at Auburn.

Still, the road game at Auburn is a trap game because we will probably be double-digit road favorites, and it comes before the Lone Star State rivalry showdown with Texas at Kyle Field. If win beat Auburn, we will return to Kyle Field with a 9-2 (6-1 SEC) record and be playing Texas for both an SEC Championship Game appearance and a playoff appearance.


That tu game could be the most high stakes one ever between the two programs, but wouldn't it be the way if we went out and Aggie'd it up by losing to Auburn

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NyAggie said:

Iraq2xVeteran said:

ESPN FI gives us only a 14.3% of making the playoffs because it gives us a 61.9% chance to win a road game at Texas, but just a 22.8% chance to win a home game against Texas at home. We control our own destiny by winning out.

Auburn has lost 5 consecutive Power 4 home games to Alabama, Cal, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Vanderbilt. Also, Hugh Freeze is 1-7 in Power 4 home games, and his only Power 4 home win was a 27-13 win over Mississippi State on 10/28/2023. Auburn's only Power 4 win of the season is a 24-10 road win at Kentucky on 10/26. For these reasons, we will probably be a double-digit road favorite at Auburn.

Still, the road game at Auburn is a trap game because we will probably be double-digit road favorites, and it comes before the Lone Star State rivalry showdown with Texas at Kyle Field. If win beat Auburn, we will return to Kyle Field with a 9-2 (6-1 SEC) record and be playing Texas for both an SEC Championship Game appearance and a playoff appearance.


That tu game could be the most high stakes one ever between the two programs, but wouldn't it be the way if we went out and Aggie'd it up by losing to Auburn




...or to NM State (not gonna happen).

Losing on the road to Auburn (after almost everyone who has played there this year beat the Tigers) would be a nightmare and the ultimate choke job!
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Fanatic15...Drs2B! said:

NyAggie said:

Iraq2xVeteran said:

ESPN FI gives us only a 14.3% of making the playoffs because it gives us a 61.9% chance to win a road game at Texas, but just a 22.8% chance to win a home game against Texas at home. We control our own destiny by winning out.

Auburn has lost 5 consecutive Power 4 home games to Alabama, Cal, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Vanderbilt. Also, Hugh Freeze is 1-7 in Power 4 home games, and his only Power 4 home win was a 27-13 win over Mississippi State on 10/28/2023. Auburn's only Power 4 win of the season is a 24-10 road win at Kentucky on 10/26. For these reasons, we will probably be a double-digit road favorite at Auburn.

Still, the road game at Auburn is a trap game because we will probably be double-digit road favorites, and it comes before the Lone Star State rivalry showdown with Texas at Kyle Field. If win beat Auburn, we will return to Kyle Field with a 9-2 (6-1 SEC) record and be playing Texas for both an SEC Championship Game appearance and a playoff appearance.


That tu game could be the most high stakes one ever between the two programs, but wouldn't it be the way if we went out and Aggie'd it up by losing to Auburn




...or to NM State (not gonna happen).

Losing on the road to Auburn (after almost everyone who has played there this year beat the Tigers) would be a nightmare and the ultimate choke job!


Would def not be a great sign for Elko being a different breed of coach around here.
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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

Fanatic15...Drs2B! said:

NyAggie said:

Iraq2xVeteran said:

ESPN FI gives us only a 14.3% of making the playoffs because it gives us a 61.9% chance to win a road game at Texas, but just a 22.8% chance to win a home game against Texas at home. We control our own destiny by winning out.

Auburn has lost 5 consecutive Power 4 home games to Alabama, Cal, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Vanderbilt. Also, Hugh Freeze is 1-7 in Power 4 home games, and his only Power 4 home win was a 27-13 win over Mississippi State on 10/28/2023. Auburn's only Power 4 win of the season is a 24-10 road win at Kentucky on 10/26. For these reasons, we will probably be a double-digit road favorite at Auburn.

Still, the road game at Auburn is a trap game because we will probably be double-digit road favorites, and it comes before the Lone Star State rivalry showdown with Texas at Kyle Field. If win beat Auburn, we will return to Kyle Field with a 9-2 (6-1 SEC) record and be playing Texas for both an SEC Championship Game appearance and a playoff appearance.


That tu game could be the most high stakes one ever between the two programs, but wouldn't it be the way if we went out and Aggie'd it up by losing to Auburn




...or to NM State (not gonna happen).

Losing on the road to Auburn (after almost everyone who has played there this year beat the Tigers) would be a nightmare and the ultimate choke job!


Would def not be a great sign for Elko being a different breed of coach around here.


Agreed, and I'm a full believer that he IS a different breed of coach around here
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Bill Superman said:

merch said:

Odds seem about right to me.

To make playoff, team has to win at Auburn, beat top 5 Texas team, and then beat another highly ranked team in SEC championship. A tall order for any team.
Win the next 3 games and we're in. They've already said they're not punishing a team for making the SEC championship game.
Regardless of the team, the thought of a 3-loss team making the playoffs is dumb.
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JROD9398 said:

aginresearch said:

We are winning the SEC championship game.
Forgive me...and my BAS, but in what year?

"Next year!"
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Just beat NMSt, Auburn and t.u.

We don't have to win the SEC Championship game
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The Banned said:

Can't wait for the facade of the "power 4" to go away. SMU? BYU? They are both so incredibly average but can earn auto bids. Insane
Have you watching either of these teams play a game? Average implies these team deserve a ranking somewhere between 55th - 80th best (earned) ranking in the country. This is absolutely not the case. The metrics that are used are as accurate as we have. It's the eye test that is 1 of the variants.
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Doubledown 2447 said:

Either a troll or an absolutely terrible fan
Aggie_Nuke said:

aginresearch said:

We are winning the SEC championship game.
.... and, my dead aunt is going to grow a pair of balls and become my uncle !

terrible fan ? What is it about the last 84+ years of mediocrity that leads you to believe we're going to win the SEC Championship ? I've witnessed 55 of those years, including the only conference championship (Big 12) we've had since my freshman year in 1969.

So, maybe I'm just a realist in believing that our current level of performance and our past historical data do not in any way support a conclusion that we will win the SEC Championship this year ! Please, prove me wrong..... but don't call me a "terrible fan" !


The ONLY valid ANNUAL goal for ALL Aggie Sports is a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

Gig'em !
FTAC '73
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1939 said:

Just beat NMSt, Auburn and t.u.

We don't have to win the SEC Championship game


Might as well, though...
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The Banned said:

Can't wait for the facade of the "power 4" to go away. SMU? BYU? They are both so incredibly average but can earn auto bids. Insane


BYU has more quality wins that Texas does so far.
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Beat Auburn and get our oline healthy and we will beat tu. We will win that game on the line of scrimmage and ewers will fold up. Then we get bama in the SEC championship game and they are beatable.
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Emilio Fantastico said:

Fanatic15...Drs2B! said:

All these Texas Aggie CFP likelihood estimates are based on others' assessments of the likelihood that the Ags beat tu on the 30th.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

They don't believe we can do it.

I believe we will do it - AFTER we take care of business against NM State this weekend the at Auburn the following Saturday.

We win these next three games and it is 95% that we are IN the CFP - with the remaining 5% chance we don't make it only coming into play if we are somehow embarrassed by our opponent in the SEC Championship Game.
But then explain the Georgia and Tennessee numbers. Georgia has lost 2 of 3 "big boy" games so far. If they lose to Tennessee, their chances go to virtually zero (or at least they should for losing 3 of 4 to the big boys). With how they have done to date this season, would you give them a >70% confidence of beating Tennessee?




Really good point. We KNOW that the loser of Georgia-Tennessee matchup MUST be eliminated from consideration... unless tu loses to Arky and then loses again to the Ags, Bama loses to Auburn or Oklahoma, Ol Miss loses to Mississippi State, Tennessee loses to Vandy, etc. - i.e. a logjam of multuple 3-conference-game-loss teams behind the Ags vying for the other spot in the SEC Championship Game - meaning a slight chance that the loser of Georgia-Tennessee game still has a shot at CFP by beating Ags in Championship Game. Otherwise, the playoff likelihood percentage listed for those two teams makes little sense to me.
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Bill Superman said:

merch said:

Odds seem about right to me.

To make playoff, team has to win at Auburn, beat top 5 Texas team, and then beat another highly ranked team in SEC championship. A tall order for any team.
Win the next 3 games and we're in. They've already said they're not punishing a team for making the SEC championship game.
And in 2020, we were supposed to be in the playoffs over Ohio State and Notre Dame.
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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

aginresearch said:

Some time after 10:00 PM Nov 30th our chance will jump to 100%.


Sadly that's not true. Lose decisively in the seccg and I think we are out .


Lose the SEC Championship and we're out. We don't have the clout to get in with three losses.
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aginresearch said:

Some time after 10:00 PM Nov 30th our chance will jump to 100%.


BS. They did it to us before, don't think they won't do it again. FSU is a prime example of how they put in who they want in. No way Georgia should have been left out last year either. If they want the sips in, they will jump us and never bat an eye.
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merch said:

Link?

I've not heard that. I've seen discussion not using conference championships as tiebreakers….but that isn't the scenario at issue.
It was one of those handshake deals.
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