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Why the GREED? Ags ripping off fellow Ags

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Ragnar Danneskjoldd
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Since time immemorial, 'greed' has been the accusation hurled at the rich by the concrete-bound illiterates who were unable to conceive of the source of wealth or of the motivation of those who produce it.

That said Im not willing to pay going rates for tickets either.
cecil77
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Would the OP be ok with a season ticket holder dividing their entire cost for those tickets by the number of tickets?
88Warrior
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cmsaggie12 said:

For those who have season tickets or ticket plans, what section are you and how much is the price per seat per game?

On the ticket forum, some of these prices are insane. Selling tu tickets for 2-3 grand per ticket. I get that it's a big game and rivalry returning after 13 years. But I could never do that to someone especially a fellow Aggie. If I paid 250 bucks for a ticket, I'm not selling it for 10x the cost I paid. It's a real shame.


That you comrade??
Fleen
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Soooo, I shouldn't try and cover my property taxes by renting out my house for the weekend?
ag88man
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Here you go.
Ragnar Danneskjoldd
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season ticket holders also donate a lot of money to be able to buy those tickets. Consider the inflated cost a charitable donation to A&M's money pile.

The only rule is dont sell your tickets to opposing fans.
Aggie_Nuke
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scoodogg said:

We've had season tickets since 2005 and I've taken a beating when selling tickets for games we couldn't go to.
Buying season tickets is like buying a magazine subscription, you pay the price whether you go (or read the magazine) or not. Your tickets are a sunk cost, whether you go to the game or not; or whether you sell them to someone else. So I don't understand the concept that you're taking a beating in sunk cost situation.

An Aggie friend of mine has a cousin who is a season ticket holder, and whenever he has tickets he isn't going to use, he calls my friend. My friend then calls me, or one of his other Aggie buddies, to see if we want them. When I take a ticket from him, I only pay him the face value of the ticket, and I'm happy to do so.

I'm not sure I understand why someone wouldn't pay the face value price for one of your tickets, unless they found a better deal elsewhere. I'd bet if you posted on this forum that you have x number of tickets available, at cost, you'd get plenty of takers. I for one would be interested.

Edit: Again, your purchase of season tickets, which includes the "contribution" you make to get them and any other miscellaneous costs, is a sunk cost. That is a cost you chose to make up front; so while it may not be irrelevant to you, it is to someone who is looking to buy the ticket from you. I think you should consider your costs above and beyond the face value of the ticket, as a sunk cost. If you can recoup that cost, fine; but there's certainly no "loss" in my opinion, by selling them at face value (the price you paid) to a fellow Aggie.


The ONLY valid ANNUAL goal for ALL Aggie Sports is a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

Gig'em !
FTAC '73
NoahAg
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Let's see what ticket prices do if we drop 2-3 games before the tu game.
Agmaniacmike12
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I just wish more people would sell their tickets to Ags. My section is littered with people who clearly just buy tickets to sell, so there is no camaraderie and half the time it is loaded with away fans.
Texas_Ag11
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Halconblack said:


"1) How many horrible matchups have I bought tickets for? Lots, I guarantee it."


Bingo! You are being isolationist in truing up the real cost of the item. It's not the price of the Texas ticket. It's the price of the Texas ticket when you consider the raw investment and the inabiliity to sell off bad games at anywhere near what you paid for that game. So the discount on NM St will drive the premium on a tu ticket.

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OP, this is like people complaining about ticket prices for concerts. "But I'm a real fan, not just some corporate fat cat! They should have different prices for us normal folks who have been fans for years, whaaaa!!!"
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cmsaggie12 said:

For those who have season tickets or ticket plans, what section are you and how much is the price per seat per game?

On the ticket forum, some of these prices are insane. Selling tu tickets for 2-3 grand per ticket. I get that it's a big game and rivalry returning after 13 years. But I could never do that to someone especially a fellow Aggie. If I paid 250 bucks for a ticket, I'm not selling it for 10x the cost I paid. It's a real shame.
as a season ticket holder it goes both ways, nobody on the ticket exchange forum wants to pay full price for tickets against mcneese state, I had to basically give those tickets away, so why get upset when the big game tickets are more expensive?

You sound like a freeloader
Tudster
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This is the same mentality of someone who is outraged that nobody will allow him/her to merge into traffic after they drove past a long line of people waiting their turn.
Craigy
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I am not a season ticket holder. I hope OP puts up a post for the tickets for the New Mexico State game proclaiming how shameful it is that Aggies won't pay season tickets holders BELOW FACE VALUE price for a game they can't attend.
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cmsaggie12 said:

For those who have season tickets or ticket plans, what section are you and how much is the price per seat per game?

On the ticket forum, some of these prices are insane. Selling tu tickets for 2-3 grand per ticket. I get that it's a big game and rivalry returning after 13 years. But I could never do that to someone especially a fellow Aggie. If I paid 250 bucks for a ticket, I'm not selling it for 10x the cost I paid. It's a real shame.


Sorry man, hear you but not listening. This is basic economics. Supply vs Demand. Don't blame the Ags that can leverage that to benefit themselves and their families. I have no issue with it.
ahpetty33
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There are quite literally hundreds of thousands of former students and fans who would like to be at that game. Why are you any more deserving than the person next to you who also wants to go? You are advocating for charity. I'm a young season ticket holder with a young family i'm providing for, the season tickets are quite the investment for us but we think it is worth it.

If i wanted to get rid of my old car, could I gift it to someone? Sure, and that would be very generous. But am i morally corrupt if i try to sell it at market value and make whatever i can?
Logos Stick
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I will only sell at that multiple to a fellow Aggie who is a liberal. Face value for conservatives.
scoodogg
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You must be mistakenly taking my post as a complaint. Mine was just to point out that almost all of my tickets end up selling for less than face value. Not face + donation. Less than face. Nobody ever shames the people on the ticket exchange offering way less than face or asking price. Nor would I expect them to. The adults in the room understand basic economics.

I'm struggling thinking of a single instance in which I actually got more than face value over those 20 seasons.

Texas_Ag11
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Aggie_Nuke said:

scoodogg said:

We've had season tickets since 2005 and I've taken a beating when selling tickets for games we couldn't go to.
Buying season tickets is like buying a magazine subscription, you pay the price whether you go (or read the magazine) or not. Your tickets are a sunk cost, whether you go to the game or not; or whether you sell them to someone else. So I don't understand the concept that you're taking a beating in sunk cost situation.

An Aggie friend of mine has a cousin who is a season ticket holder, and whenever he has tickets he isn't going to use, he calls my friend. My friend then calls me, or one of his other Aggie buddies, to see if we want them. When I take a ticket from him, I only pay him the face value of the ticket, and I'm happy to do so.

I'm not sure I understand why someone wouldn't pay the face value price for one of your tickets, unless they found a better deal elsewhere. I'd bet if you posted on this forum that you have x number of tickets available, at cost, you'd get plenty of takers. I for one would be interested.

Edit: Again, your purchase of season tickets, which includes the "contribution" you make to get them and any other miscellaneous costs, is a sunk cost. That is a cost you chose to make up front; so while it may not be irrelevant to you, it is to someone who is looking to buy the ticket from you. I think you should consider your costs above and beyond the face value of the ticket, as a sunk cost. If you can recoup that cost, fine; but there's certainly no "loss" in my opinion, by selling them at face value (the price you paid) to a fellow Aggie.
A magazine subscription has no scarcity. A magazine publisher will sell as many subscriptions as they can/will. Aggie football is capped at a certain number based on capacity, which creates scarcity. Scarcity creates demand curve and drives pricing increases. Your situation with a friend passing along tickets at cost is superb for you, but not realistic. In reality the person selling those tickets is simply offloading the trouble to sell the tickets secondary market and just wants to get back value at a discount. Doesn't make one way right or wrong, but what your espousing is the equivalent of renovating your house, but thinking you can not include the cost of the reno in your sales price. You already spent the money (sunk cost) so no need to recoup the investment.

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cmsaggie12 said:

For those who have season tickets or ticket plans, what section are you and how much is the price per seat per game?

On the ticket forum, some of these prices are insane. Selling tu tickets for 2-3 grand per ticket. I get that it's a big game and rivalry returning after 13 years. But I could never do that to someone especially a fellow Aggie. If I paid 250 bucks for a ticket, I'm not selling it for 10x the cost I paid. It's a real shame.
This guy does not have tickets and obviously does have season tickets.
Kraft Punk
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Cs"Maggie"

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Keeper of The Spirits
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I'd happily sell all my tickets at face value, if I could get face value for the McNeese's of the world but the simple fact is 2-3 games a year have 0 economic value. 1-2 have limited to breakeven, and every few years you get a big game where you can make money. Some years you can cover you cost and some years you pay nearly the full amount of the tickets
jc100
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A blue norther would make me want to watch this game in person more! What an experience that would be, kinda like that late 90s game against Nebraska where they set up the seats on the sidelines.
Logos Stick
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Keeper of The Spirits said:

I'd happily sell all my tickets at face value, if I could get face value for the McNeese's of the world but the simple fact is 2-3 games a year have 0 economic value. 1-2 have limited to breakeven, and every few years you get a big game where you can make money. Some years you can cover you cost and some years you pay nearly the full amount of the tickets


Sell them for what the market will bear. No guilt!
Aggie Dad 26
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Aggie_Nuke said:

Aggie Dad 26 said:

cmsaggie12 said:

Why be the "good guy" when thousands of other people aren't.

Justification based on bad behavior by others. I guess your answer to my mom's question of whether or not I'd jump off a cliff because everyone else does it, would be a YES ! Of course I did notice your caveat of "maybe"..... feeling a little guilty ?


No, I would not jump off a bridge and kill myself because others were. I'd take advantage of the market as everyone else is though
Aggie Dad 26
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Logos Stick said:

I will only sell at that multiple to a fellow Aggie who is a liberal. Face value for conservatives.

Like a Boss
Aggie_Nuke
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Texas_Ag11 said:

Aggie_Nuke said:

scoodogg said:

..... In reality the person selling those tickets is simply offloading the trouble to sell the tickets secondary market and just wants to get back value at a discount. Doesn't make one way right or wrong, but what your espousing is the equivalent of renovating your house, but thinking you can not include the cost of the reno in your sales price. You already spent the money (sunk cost) so no need to recoup the investment.


Texas_Ag11
Actually, the person selling those tickets to my friend is doing so in consideration of his fellow Aggies; he's not out to make a buck or re-coup his initial investment.

If I renovate my house, I have added features/values to an existing structure; thus increasing the value of the house. In other words, a renovation adds additional investment costs to my initial investment, so the total investment after the renovation is greater than the initial investment.

A season ticket holder does nothing beyond the initial purchase/investment of the tickets (plus "contribution", fees, etc.) to increase their value; thus, nothing has been added to their initial investment cost. So, it is not the equivalent of "including the cost of the reno" in the sales price...............


The ONLY valid ANNUAL goal for ALL Aggie Sports is a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

Gig'em !
FTAC '73
Sq 17
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Generally if it's a big game I am going if I can't go I sell at below 70% of stub hub to Ags on the ticket exchange
If it's a regular game I just give them to people I know
A couple weeks ago I ended up 8 Mizzou tickets I could not use and they are very good seats not club level but good seats I ended up just giving them away and that was after calling 6-8 people who did not want them
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Rule#2 said:

You might be able to create generational wealth off that game on Thanksgiving
Worst case, you could pay off your seat license for next year!
Kraft Punk
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Hey Nav
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Quote:

When I take a ticket from him, I only pay him the face value of the ticket, and I'm happy to do so.
Just curious what the "face value" is for tickets for L$U or tu? (or any other home game) ?
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Aggie Dad 26 said:

cmsaggie12 said:

For those who have season tickets or ticket plans, what section are you and how much is the price per seat per game?

On the ticket forum, some of these prices are insane. Selling tu tickets for 2-3 grand per ticket. I get that it's a big game and rivalry returning after 13 years. But I could never do that to someone especially a fellow Aggie. If I paid 250 bucks for a ticket, I'm not selling it for 10x the cost I paid. It's a real shame.


Why be the "good guy" when thousands of other people aren't.


Because that's one of many differences between Aggies & Sips.

There is high demand to be at the game, and the market sets re sale value for the tickets. If allot of people are willing to pay 2 or 3k, then who am I to complain about the market value...but saying "why be the good guy, when thousands of other people aren't," is a bad thing...shouldn't have to be explained.
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They charge an aircraft $15,000 for touching its wheels down on a runway in Vegas during F1, but they pay it. Same with Super Bowl. Disney…. People still take their kids and chunk $5-10k in the Mickey ears. Selling my home for double what I paid for it in 2010. Is that ripping them off?
Medaggie
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Aggie_Nuke said:




A season ticket holder does nothing beyond the initial purchase/investment of the tickets (plus "contribution", fees, etc.) to increase their value; thus, nothing has been added to their initial investment cost.
So if you buy a painting for $1, and found out it was a Van Gogh and really worth $10M. You didn't add any value to the initial investment so that means you should not reap the rewards?

Your Aggie friend is doing you a favor because he/she is a generous person. That is great and all but in no way is that an obligation.

When you sell your house you bought for 200k, listed for 600k. An aggie puts in a 500K bid and another person puts in 580K. Are you really going to pick the aggie?
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Aggie_Nuke said:

scoodogg said:

We've had season tickets since 2005 and I've taken a beating when selling tickets for games we couldn't go to.
Buying season tickets is like buying a magazine subscription, you pay the price whether you go (or read the magazine) or not. Your tickets are a sunk cost, whether you go to the game or not; or whether you sell them to someone else. So I don't understand the concept that you're taking a beating in sunk cost situation.

An Aggie friend of mine has a cousin who is a season ticket holder, and whenever he has tickets he isn't going to use, he calls my friend. My friend then calls me, or one of his other Aggie buddies, to see if we want them. When I take a ticket from him, I only pay him the face value of the ticket, and I'm happy to do so.

I'm not sure I understand why someone wouldn't pay the face value price for one of your tickets, unless they found a better deal elsewhere. I'd bet if you posted on this forum that you have x number of tickets available, at cost, you'd get plenty of takers. I for one would be interested.

Edit: Again, your purchase of season tickets, which includes the "contribution" you make to get them and any other miscellaneous costs, is a sunk cost. That is a cost you chose to make up front; so while it may not be irrelevant to you, it is to someone who is looking to buy the ticket from you. I think you should consider your costs above and beyond the face value of the ticket, as a sunk cost. If you can recoup that cost, fine; but there's certainly no "loss" in my opinion, by selling them at face value (the price you paid) to a fellow Aggie.
you literally have no idea how any of this works.
 
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