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Anyone using Missouri as to why we will win 10+ games is just as bad as those saying we suck because of Notre Dame.

Things look a lot brighter after Missouri but let's see how things go the next 3 weeks before jumping to conclusions.

And I've said it 100 times I still think 9-3 is most liekly but I'm feeling better about 10-2.
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i think people excitement stems from on the field improvement. who is to say our game vs mizzou is the peak of what we can achieve? CW performing at a high level shows glimpses of what this offense can achieve with a proficient passing attack coupled with a strongly developing run game.

the way i see it college football is like 12 mini seasons so muc can happen from week to week it is amazing. but the performance last week provided hope that there is still a whole lot left to play for this season.
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vander54 said:

Anyone using Missouri as to why we will win 10+ games is just as bad as those saying we suck because of Notre Dame.

Things look a lot brighter after Missouri but let's see how things go the next 3 weeks before jumping to conclusions.

And I've said it 100 times I still think 9-3 is most liekly but I'm feeling better about 10-2.
I guarantee we have it this week.
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vander54 said:

Anyone using Missouri as to why we will win 10+ games is just as bad as those saying we suck because of Notre Dame.

Things look a lot brighter after Missouri but let's see how things go the next 3 weeks before jumping to conclusions.

And I've said it 100 times I still think 9-3 is most liekly but I'm feeling better about 10-2.
I think it's the fact that not only did we show we were capable of beating a quality team, ranked or not, two weeks in a row. But that we showed we CAN blow out quality teams. Jimbo teams didn't really show that potential. We showed that if we play well, operating on most of our cylinders, we will be VERY hard to beat for any opponent. Do we have some performances ahead where we don't fire on all those cylinders? Probably. But the ceiling has moved up significantly, and with one of our tougher opponents behind us, the floor has too. Add in the fact that we have two QB's that have proven they can win conference games, an offensive line that isn't just improved, but actually looks to be GOOD, a defensive front that can be game changing, and fewer roster holes than almost any year in the last decade, and it's understandable that people are raising expectations.
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We have to take care of business against the teams like Ms St and Auburn and not show up sleep walking.

Then we have to play our A game against corndog, S Car and sip and come away with 2 wins out of 3.

Main thing is to continue to get better and not plateau or take a step back. I believe Elko can keep them focused but wouldn't be surprised to see us come out flat in a game that we could've otherwise won at point.

BAS tells me 9-3. But we're fully capable of 10-2, and even 11-1 with a lucky bounce or two.
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vander54 said:

Anyone using Missouri as to why we will win 10+ games is just as bad as those saying we suck because of Notre Dame.

Things look a lot brighter after Missouri but let's see how things go the next 3 weeks before jumping to conclusions.

And I've said it 100 times I still think 9-3 is most liekly but I'm feeling better about 10-2.


Yep. I've seen it happen over and over where we'll play great going into a bye week, then **** the bed the next week. OR well just **** the bed after a bye week period. See 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019. A few of those losses have been to Mississippi State. Not the same teams or coaching staff, but time will tell if this team can break the mold.

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Predicting wins and losses is an effort to create the illusion of comtrol. It does zero good and lots of terrible.
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Funny how just a short time ago I remember seeing posts that we would not make a bowl game this year. Emotions usually go too far one way or the other on here. The truth often lies somewhere in the middle.

But this is an Aggie fan forum. If people want to get excited and think we will not lose another game then fine with me. We can all dream of great seasons.

Having said all that, very happy with the job the coaching staff and team has done so far. Not easy to come out this strong in year 1.
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greg.w.h said:

Predicting wins and losses is an effort to create the illusion of comtrol. It does zero good and lots of terrible.

What the F is it with you and this control issue schtick??

Shut up already
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vander54 said:

Anyone using Missouri as to why we will win 10+ games is just as bad as those saying we suck because of Notre Dame.

Things look a lot brighter after Missouri but let's see how things go the next 3 weeks before jumping to conclusions.

And I've said it 100 times I still think 9-3 is most liekly but I'm feeling better about 10-2.


Who is on the schedule that has as much talent on their roster as A&M?

If our coaches are good, we should beat everyone with less talent. If our coaches are great they'll beat a team with the same or more talent

You're hedging
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Agreed.

We just don't know if Mizzou is really any good.

We don't know if we will see our level of performance again and consistently.

We don't know how Miss St will be in Starkville either. Now if we shut them out and win by 30+ then we really might have a team that will be hard to beat.

Will be very interesting to see how everybody plays this weekend while we rest!
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Prefer 1 game at a time mentality after years of playing and pretty sure staff/team look at it the same way.

Mizzou win was great, team looked great, but guarantees nothing vs. LSU, tu, Aub at home, etc. Don't know if Mizzou had a bad day at the office, over-rated or emotionally not strong (pouted and got down on themselves). If a few of those early calls went their way, game would have been 10-7 early and everyone complaining about busted coverages yet again (cuz it happened again). Bussey also saved an INT and should have rec'd game ball for that play alone.

Like the makeup of our team, hoping secondary continues to improve and they keep shuffling LBs to really find the best 2 to be on the field (still a weak area, but improving weekly).

Nothing guaranteed, but why they play the games and why it's entertaining to enjoy the journey and live in the moment.

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I fully expect Weigman to float between the ND Weigman and the Mizzou Weigman in his performance in future games. We won't know which Wiggy we'll get until we start the game.
Thus, I expect to see Reed again on the field during some future game not in mop-up time.
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mrfun83 said:

I fully expect Weigman to float between the ND Weigman and the Mizzou Weigman in his performance in future games. We won't know which Wiggy we'll get until we start the game.
Thus, I expect to see Reed again on the field during some future game not in mop-up time.
Wait, Weigman won't get hurt for the rest of the season? Cmon.
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We beat a SEC team decisively
Pig appears to be better than we thought
Our other 3 road games are against the dregs of the conference
LSU looks very beatable
A good reason to be optimistic and dream of post season playoffs

Insert Jim mora talking about playoffs mentally here

And It is an off week not much else to do
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I was just happy to see A&M thrash a top 10 team at Kyle. That hasn't happened since.....?
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Don't get me wrong. There's definitely reasons to be optimistic but i want to see consistency before I get too excited.

If we beat MSU and LSU then expectations shift to 10-2 minimum.

I wish we didn't have a bye this week
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It was great to watch us dominate a top 10 undefeated SEC team from start to finish. We throttled Missouri 41-10, for our largest margin of victory over a top 10 team, exceeding our 52-28 road victory over then No. 9 South Carolina to open the 2014 season. For these reasons, people are getting much more excited, but we should see how our next 3 games go before jumping to conclusions. If we can win our next game 3 games against Mississippi State, LSU, and South Carolina, expectations shift to a floor of 10-2 (7-1 SEC) finish, a probable SEC Championship Game appearance, and a lock for the playoffs.
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Wise words from lucci during the luccador podcast

"Stop trying to guess what our record will be and just enjoy the next game."

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mrfun83 said:

I fully expect Weigman to float between the ND Weigman and the Mizzou Weigman in his performance in future games. We won't know which Wiggy we'll get until we start the game.
Thus, I expect to see Reed again on the field during some future game not in mop-up time.


Between the two QBs they only have two picks thrown (both in the first game when Weigman was off) for the season. Add in just one fumble lost from a RB and that's pretty elite as far as taking care of the ball througb six games.

https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/team-stats?category=turnovers&sort=to&season=2024&seasonType=reg&sortOrder=desc

Conner can afford to be a little more off target as long as A&M averages only a turnover every other game or so. A&M's current pace is 6 for the regular season and the lowest mark ever in the NCAA (or any level of collegiate football) is 5. Kind of a fun stat, and good on Elko as a defensive guru who's had to play his backup QB for much of the season.

https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2019/10/oregon-state-football-on-pace-to-set-ncaa-records-for-fewest-turnovers-and-lost-fumbles-in-a-season.html?outputType=amp
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Team needs to stay focused and do what they've been doing. The line is starting to look like 2020, but the passing game if it continues on this trajectory makes this a much more dangerous team than that one.

In 2020, we controlled the game, played it tight the whole way. We relied on our D to keep it close while the offense ran clock and wore the other team down so we could win it in the 4th qtr.

With Conner Weigman, we have the potential to be a team that can come back if needed, and a team that can also pull away from teams and put them away earlier.

All depends on how hard they keep working..... and health.
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Not saying every game will be a lopsided score in our favor but last week was the first time in a really long time where I saw this team dominate in all phases against a quality opponent. I can't remember the last time we had a complete game like that. That's what a lot of people are seeing. Something is different in a good way.
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I think that like in the Mizzou game if we

1) physically impose our will on both the O and D LOSs
2) Run the ball well
3) Pass the ball well
4) Have no turnovers

We can win the rest of our games. Should we also

5) get a few good bounces
6) get a borderline call or two that goes out way

We can blow everyone out.
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We were one healthy, well performing QB from beating ND soundly.

We saw a healthy, well performing qb beat mizzou soundly. And the backup looks pretty good too.

Get a dog, Eeyor.
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it was more than that...we needed 6 weeks of OL improvement, WRs to understand the offense better, true fish to come up to speed, etc. This team in week 6 is SO much better than they were in week 1, not just Conner
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A sign of good coaching - continuous improvement week to week.
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Aggie Dad 26 said:

vander54 said:

Anyone using Missouri as to why we will win 10+ games is just as bad as those saying we suck because of Notre Dame.

Things look a lot brighter after Missouri but let's see how things go the next 3 weeks before jumping to conclusions.

And I've said it 100 times I still think 9-3 is most liekly but I'm feeling better about 10-2.


Who is on the schedule that has as much talent on their roster as A&M?

If our coaches are good, we should beat everyone with less talent. If our coaches are great they'll beat a team with the same or more talent

You're hedging
That is most definitely NOT how it works. Saban is great. He lost to on average at least one team, and sometimes 2, less talented than him nearly every year of his career sans maybe 2. He still may go down as the GOAT.

It's still all about percentages. We can have the best coaches in the world. You take 3 games you are more talented in that are 60/40 type games, and odds are still better to go 2-1 than 3-0. That's not a hedge. It's simple statistics.
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vander54 said:

Anyone using Missouri as to why we will win 10+ games is just as bad as those saying we suck because of Notre Dame.

Things look a lot brighter after Missouri but let's see how things go the next 3 weeks before jumping to conclusions.

And I've said it 100 times I still think 9-3 is most liekly but I'm feeling better about 10-2.


While don't we just wait until after the next 6 games before we get excited. That way theres no jumping to conclusions
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beerad12man said:

Aggie Dad 26 said:

vander54 said:

Anyone using Missouri as to why we will win 10+ games is just as bad as those saying we suck because of Notre Dame.

Things look a lot brighter after Missouri but let's see how things go the next 3 weeks before jumping to conclusions.

And I've said it 100 times I still think 9-3 is most liekly but I'm feeling better about 10-2.


Who is on the schedule that has as much talent on their roster as A&M?

If our coaches are good, we should beat everyone with less talent. If our coaches are great they'll beat a team with the same or more talent

You're hedging
That is most definitely NOT how it works. Saban is great. He lost to on average at least one team, and sometimes 2, less talented than him nearly every year of his career sans maybe 2. He still may go down as the GOAT.

It's still all about percentages. We can have the best coaches in the world. You take 3 games you are more talented in that are 60/40 type games, and odds are still better to go 2-1 than 3-0. That's not a hedge. It's simple statistics.


Saban also got everyone's absolute best. You realize he never lost to Arkansas? not even once

Why would we lose to New Mexico St? Miss St? Mississippi State is currently 1-4 and probably 1-5 after tomorrow
Is it too much to ask to take care of business against an inferior Auburn team??
Can we go 1-1 in our games against t.u/LSU

Saban also went undefeated. He racked up a TON of titles. So while you wanna talk Saban, keep that in mind.

Elko has a bunch of talent. This will be one of his more talented teams he's ever been apart of. There's no reason for an additional 2 more losses. He has an amazing defense and TWO qbs that have proven to win games.

Why??
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vander54 said:

Anyone using Missouri as to why we will win 10+ games is just as bad as those saying we suck because of Notre Dame.

Things look a lot brighter after Missouri but let's see how things go the next 3 weeks before jumping to conclusions.

And I've said it 100 times I still think 9-3 is most liekly but I'm feeling better about 10-2.

say it all you want - I'll jump to whatever conclusions I want! I started the season at 10-2 and I'm beginning to think I may have been too low!
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I'm glad he brings up Saban

2009: 14-0
2020: 13-0
6 seasons of 1 loss

The guy got everyone's best regardless of who the opponents were and took care of business.
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Keyno said:

I was just happy to see A&M thrash a top 10 team at Kyle. That hasn't happened since.....?

Must have been the Alabama upset in 2021, right?

Does anyone know our all-time record against top 10? Against #1?
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I tend to agree with OP, however...

We just blew out a top 10 team in a month that has been our kryptonite for the better part of a decade and we have a bye week to stew in it. I fully intend to spend this time celebrating the occasion by creating unrealistic expections before spending all next week tempering them prior to the Clanga game. It is kind of like the players getting to celibrate 24 hours after a win and then getting back to work, except I am taking a week.
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The OL and back end DB group are both VASTLY improved over last season.

Our floor is 8-4 and odds of 9-3 are about equal to 10-2. 10-2 is the ceiling. Anything less than 8-4 would be a major disappointment.

The DL is elite, it may be the best DL in the SEC.

Here's my best hopeful guess rest of season:

@ State - W
lsu - W
@USC - W
NMS - W
@ Auburn - L
cow - W

Think we will drop one of @ USC and @ Auburn. But also feel we will win one if not both big home games vs. lsu and cow.

10-2 would possibly get us into the CFP as a 10-12 seed.

Then again, we are the aTm Aggies, so 7-5 or 8-4 will happen somehow....
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Jarrin' Jay said:

The OL and back end DB group are both VASTLY improved over last season.

Our floor is 8-4 and odds of 9-3 are about equal to 10-2. 10-2 is the ceiling. Anything less than 8-4 would be a major disappointment.

The DL is elite, it may be the best DL in the SEC.

Here's my best hopeful guess rest of season:

@ State - W
lsu - W
@USC - W
NMS - W
@ Auburn - L
cow - W

Think we will drop one of @ USC and @ Auburn. But also feel we will win one if not both big home games vs. lsu and cow.

10-2 would possibly get us into the CFP as a 10-12 seed.

Then again, we are the aTm Aggies, so 7-5 or 8-4 will happen somehow....



10-2 is not our ceiling.

But i agree anything less than 8-4 would be worse than a major disappointment at this point. At the beining of the year i said I'd be disappointed with 8-4 but not the end of the world. Now i think 8-4 would be horrible. That means we would drop 3 games and with our schedule there is absolutely no reason we should drop 3.
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