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Aggie Dad 26
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hogfan14 said:

Aggie Dad 26 said:

Kraft Punk said:

It's a rivalry game... they hate us & we hate them


They always get up for this game



Arkansas hates everything Texas. They definitely hate us. They're hatred for t.u is slightly stronger


Arkansas fans seem to hate everyone else in the SEC pretty equally. It's why they play about 5 Super Bowls every year according to other fanbases lol


This I can agree with. One of the guys I served with named about 6 schools in the SEC he HATED. This was back in 2011!
TJM90
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Bad take. This isn't anyone's Super Bowl. Both teams are struggling to find an identity.

tu in Arkansas will be the Super Bowl for them. We have more talent and better cos hung. We should win.
Iraq2xVeteran
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ESPN FPI gives us a 56.2% chance of beating Arkansas, and we are 5.5-point favorites over Arkansas. I am not surprised by these numbers because both teams appear evenly matched. Both Texas A&M and Arkansas lost to nonconference Power 4 opponents, struggled in home wins over Group of 5 opponents, and won their SEC openers on the road by 10+ points each.

I would like a double-digit win over Arkansas for the 2nd year in a row, but I won't be surprised if this game is close from start to finish. We have won 11 of 12 SEC games against Arkansas, but 6 of those wins were decided by 7 points or fewer, including overtime wins in 2014, 2015, and 2017. Even when Arkansas finished 2-10 (0-8 SEC) in 2018 and 2019, we beat Arkansas by 7 points and 4 points respectively. Hopefully, we beat Arkansas to improve to 4-1 and start 2-0 in SEC play. I am predicting a 31-24 win.
TAMU74
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I see two possible outcomes.
First. We dominate and win easily.
Second. We lose in a very close game late.
greg.w.h
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Bill Superman said:

Kraft Punk said:

It's a rivalry game... they hate us & we hate them

They always get up for this game
The hate is not quite the same.. They definitely hate us more.
The more we beat them…
wangus12
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TAMU74 said:

I see two possible outcomes.
First. We dominate and win easily.
Second. We lose in a very close game late.


Third: We can't set the edge and they run all over our D
dcg4403
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Bill Superman said:

We always underestimate Arkansas and typically barely escape with a lucky bounce. I see the zoo has already penciled this in as an easy W just like our team usually does.

This is their Super Bowl and they will play their game of the year against us just like they always do. Not to mention this is the last time they get the advantage of playing in Tx and not being the away team.

Go ahead and plan a picnic Saturday if you can't handle a tight game that doesn't end in a lucky oink doink.

Me? I like to miss my bets so I'm going all in on pig covering the ridiculous +3.5 spread to see if I can't ruin my Saturday regardless of what happens.

Wow. Slow down, Bill. Or maybe not?

Haven't been following the zoo much this week at this point. Trying to get my fill at midnight and check out some YT SEC shows. Listening to the Elko show in the background.

Tell you this much, I sure as hell am nervous as HECK about this game. It honestly feels like a setup game. Arkansas is a good team but extremely inconsistent, just like us. They have the fire power and an OC to put points on the board.

I'm going with our Aggies but very, very nervous about it. This game is our season IMO in terms of becoming a realistic CFP team this season. We win...who knows how high this team can rise and in Year 1 with Elko.

If we lose, this year is really about rebuilding. We also MUST prove Klein is the OC that 4-star and 5-star WRs want to play for. If not, Sark at Austin is gonna take all the offensive catching talent and be a tough program. No doubt that Elko will be effective in RB talent and defensive talent across the board.
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SA68AG said:

Both teams are mediocre. The game could go either way.
This
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Gunny456 said:

I don't even know what the hell trant is or whatever you're calling it. So if you know as much about Arkansas folks as you think you know what I read …… well I don't know.
So your time in the military with a few of them (that you try desperately to stereotype) is the end all authority.
Yea ok, you are without a question the definitive voice of knowledge about everything Arkansas.
If you want to stereotype an entire state of people due to your time spent in the military with a few…. absolutely.
Hell Johnny Cash, General Douglas Mac Arthur and Army Ranger William Darby who earned the Distinguished Service Cross in North Africa in WWII are some of that trashy scum from Arkansas you know so much about.


Don't forget that they gave us Bill & Hillary.
Maroon Dawn
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Who here is incredibly confident about a team that just did their damndest to lose to a lowly MAC team at home??
SABUILDERAG
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Definitely not underestimating. Definitely uninterested (comparatively).

Just want us to play to our capability and with max effort and attitude (not show boating but fierce).

Tired of watching what appears to be entitled Aggie football. I know it will take time for Elko to fix it, if he can, but it is not fun to watch in the meantime.
Bill Superman
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TJM90 said:

Bad take. This isn't anyone's Super Bowl. Both teams are struggling to find an identity.

tu in Arkansas will be the Super Bowl for them. We have more talent and better cos hung. We should win.
It's the correct take whether you like it or not. As much as you worship sip, nobody seems to mind giving them the win. Absolutely nobody wants to lose to us.
Tex117
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I think there is simply estimating.

Its just another game for both teams. For all the hoopla, playing in Jerryworld, etc....there really hasn't been a true on "rivalry" spin up.
Gunny456
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And Mike and Sarah > Willy and Hildy.
Little Rock Ag
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I don't get a lot of hate vibes from Arkansas fans for A&M. They DO hate both UTs, especially the ones in Austin.
BTHO_everyone
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No team in the SEC should be taken lightly, especially Arkansas. Let's not make that mistake, win or lose, they'll give us a battle.
BTHO_everyone
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They've also got some strong talent this year, but if we execute well tactically, we'll get the job done.
Emilio Fantastico
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It is hard to underestimate an opponent when you have no clue who your team really is.
EliteZags
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Aggie Dad 26 said:

Underestimate? We have lost to them one time since joining the SEC

sad to imagine a program like ours being their Bama
Honolulu Blue
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The team could lose to Arkansas and beat Texas. Nothing about this team can surprise me. On paper they have the most un-realized talent in the nation. They have a coach who is know for maximizing talent. Yet we still haven't seen a consistent pattern of dominant play (on the contrary, we actually have seen stretches of poor play).


No loss will surprise me. No win is off the table.
EliteZags
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Quote:

the most un-realized talent in the nation

my parents used to tell me that too
sharpdressedman
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They hate us so intensely that the day our baseball team mauled them in game 3 of the series this year, a posh, large wedding reception in Little Rock was wrecked by the Aggie win, and many in attendance left early and angry because of it.

The bride and groom left much earlier than planned, and they were sent off by maybe one-half of the reception's initial group of attendees. The rest had left at varying points during the baseball beatdown.

My dear friend, an uncle of the bride, told me she left early because she wanted pics of her and her husband's departure to have many guests included.

I was there, and I both marveled and chuckled at the spectacle.

BTHO Arkansas!

Edit for spelling.
DSAG
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Aggie Dad 26 said:

halfastros81 said:

Doesn't surprise me.

We're not going to be playing them annually going forward imo.


Based on what?
Yes we will .
We will likely be going to a 9 game SEC schedule in 2026 .
There will be 4 groups of 4 teams with yearly play within each group.
Our group will likely include tu/ark/ou .
We will play 6 of the other 12 teams every other year which makes for the 9 game schedule .
TexasAggie_97
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I doubt this will be an easy win. In fact it is a very losable game for us.
redjalapeno-87
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True, so true.
TJKDone
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ironmanag said:

Who is underestimating them?


AGREE...They are certainly on par with Bowling Green...they don't have the coach, but they definitely have more athleticism than our previous MAC opponent.

Coach Elko, and by extension the team, won't be underestimating piggy.

Gig'em
Cinco Ranch Aggie
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Bill Superman said:

Kraft Punk said:

It's a rivalry game... they hate us & we hate them

They always get up for this game
The hate is not quite the same.. They definitely hate us more.
As a student when we were in the SWC, I can tell you that I had a hatred of them that persists to this day. Yeah, tu was the undisputed top rival, but the Piggies were next.
dcg4403
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SA68AG said:

Both teams are mediocre. The game could go either way.


Shut your hole. How dare you!!!

Hopefully we can go from mediocrity to superiority in the next 3 weeks.

We play as we should and can, we win by 10 pts. If not, another one of those nail biters
AGDAD14
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As a South Texas Razorback fan from childhood (from the '60s) until 2010, when our daughter became a FIGHTIN' TEXAS AGGIE (petroleum engineer class '14), I can say the Hogs save their hate for Texas. They may dislike LSU, Ole Miss, and A&M… BUT they HATE the Longhorns. They (we) left the SWC because of the arrogant blatant cheating and manipulative hook'em hippies that nobody would do anything about.

My grandad was from Arkansas, and as a crop duster and stunt pilot in South Texas, who attended the agriculture conferences and events at TAMU, had Arkansas season tickets and road game tickets for years. My grandmother loved calling the Hogs. Yes, in this regard I was a spoiled child.

Our family always respected Texas A&M and what it represented. We are extremely proud of our Aggie daughter and son-in-law, and have made many memories as Aggie season ticket holders and now enjoy Aggieland with our two grandchildren.

So selfishly, I would like to keep Arkansas as permanent opponent, as we still have family and friends in Arkansas. However, for the state and historical purposes it should be tu. Plus it would force tu to give up their prized Dallas trip. Just my two cents.
Gunny456
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Good post.
Not to derail…. Was your grandfather in the CAF?
W
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it is interesting looking back...

in Jimbo's 1st year in 2018...A&M only beat Arkansas by the score of 24-17

in Jimbo's 2nd year in 2019...A&M only beat Arkansas 31-27

the Razorbacks finished 2-10 in both of those years -- they were terrible

those games were an early indication that Jimbo's style of run the ball and control the clock...was going to be problematic

because it naturally keeps the game close and the score relatively low -- even against awful teams
OMB100GAS
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Bill Superman said:

We always underestimate Arkansas


We are ranked, line favors us, and so does FPI and Spreadsheet AG

No one is predicting a blow out. Most saying just a win by maybe two scores at the most... IF we play well. Seems very appropriately estimated
Walter E. Kurtz
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True but it's usually a one score game down to the wire.
WC94
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Gunny456 said:

Funny. I work with and live and do tons of business in Arkansas. My neighbor ranch owners are both Ark grads. ALL of them pull for A&M except when we play them. ALL like the FTAB.
ALL of them truly, passionately hate t.u.


This^^^^

They were the O.G. school getting out of the toxic relationship with the sips. Followed by, Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri, A&M.

We should have gotten a restraining order.
AGDAD14
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Gunny456 said:

Good post.
Not to derail…. Was your grandfather in the CAF?


He was in the Army Air Corps.
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